Insha Alla Kashmir(Documentry)

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  1. Godless-Kafir

    Godless-Kafir DFI Buddha Senior Member

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    This is a great documentary and the guy released his full documentary on youtube, only because he opposes censorship in India. Its called Inshalla Kashmir.

     
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    Godless-Kafir DFI Buddha Senior Member

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    That does not appear to be the same documentary i saw in NDTV?

    I think this is the right one.

     
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  4. The Messiah

    The Messiah Bow Before Me! Elite Member

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    Both are propaganda pieces.

    This chap tarnishes the name of real secular people.

    These are ex-terrorists not innocent civilians.

    Obviously few innocents get caught in the cross fire in these situations but lets not make it out that it is policy of govt to deliberately target civilians. Killing of innocents is always regretable but lets not blow it out of proportion.
     
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    KS Bye bye DFI Veteran Member

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    Yet another "beating-the chest" kind of documentary demonizing the Armed forces.

    Look you people supported the mass terror against your own country and worse still actively took help from the enemy in aiding,abetting and executing innumerable terrorists attacks in the Kashmir Valley (..and in other parts) and oversaw one of the worst ethnic cleansing the world has witnessed in chasing the Kashmiri Pandits out of their homeland.

    It is but natural that few of your kind will be killed in the state's attempt to protect the sovereignty and maintain law and order. Why cry about it when you yourself were partly responsible for it in the first place ? Without spilling blood you will not get your 'azaadi'.
     
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    @The Messiah

    While the first video is created by a Muslim hate group, the second video was actually created by some Oscar-nominated director Ashvin Kumar, not by Muslims. It was apparently part of his collection of interviews when he was making a documentary about a Kashmiri footballer called Inshallah Football

    Although it does depict only one side of the story and not the postive stories of Army helping the locals or local Kashmirs joining the police to fight the militants as well as the much large HR violations by militants themselves.

    Instead of allowing people like Ashvin Kumar to give a handle to anti-India elements with his documentary, we should also be doing documentaries and covering the other side of the story as well. The media aspect of the issue should not be ignored.
     
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  7. parijataka

    parijataka Senior Member Senior Member

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    Indian govt keeps saying J & K is `integral part` of India, if so get rid of Article 370. Unfortunate that innocent Kashmiris are caught between India and Pakistan, do they really think that Pakistan is interested in Kashmiri azaadi ?
     
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    Unless and until the state is treated as any other state , nothing is going to change.

    Let people set up whatever they want in Kashmir, start business, buy lands, settle down, build offices etc...

    Bring them to mainstream rather than making it feel special...and isolated.
     
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    Inshallah Kashmir lacks truth. It doesn't lack propaganda. It lacks pain. Best fictional documentary in a long time " - Aditya Raj Kaul (India Editor of The Indian, Australia. A silent wandering shadow)


    1:> The Gawkadal massacre happened on January 21, 1990. The Kashmiri Pandits were harrassed and frightened on the night of Jan 19.

    2:> All over mosques in Kashmir, they shouted that Kashmiri Pandits need to be eliminated, their women need to be abducted.

    3:> The majority did not find Kashmiri Pandits "evaporate" one fine day. Everyone knew what was happening. And most of them were happy with turn of events

    4:> On January 19, Jagmohan hadn't even come to Kashmir valley. He was stuck in Raj Bhawan in Jammu.

    5:> And to hell with Wajahat Habibullah when he says it wasn't necessary for Kashmir Pandits to leave. Man, have shame, we were being killed on roads.

    6:> We were being shot at and our corpses pissed upon. Hundreds of thousands of people were on road, showing us fist.

    7:> Saying it wasn't necessary for us to leave, Habibullah is insulting the memory of those martyrs

    8:> And who killed HN Wanchoo? He was killed by Hizbul Mujahideen.

    9:> And why have a handful of Kashmiri Pandits been allowed to stay? Because they are "ornamental" and come handy to show off "Kashmiriyat."

    10:> And who killed Kashmiri Pandits ? Not Lashkar or Al-Qaeda. The killings were done by local Kashmiri Muslim boys.


    By Rahul Pandita - A kashmiri Pandit, Associate Editor, Open Magazine. Author of Hello
     
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    You can buy land in Kashmir even if you are from a different state. This cannot buy crap has been fed us for decades, by I do not know who.
     
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    ?????

    Please clarify your statement. This is what I find...

    Jammu and Kashmir is the only state in India which enjoys special autonomy under Article 370 of the Constitution of India according to which, no law enacted by the Parliament of India, except for those in the field of defence, communication and foreign policy, will be extendable in Jammu and Kashmir unless it is ratified by the state legislature of Jammu and Kashmir. Subsequently, jurisdiction of the Supreme Court of India over Jammu and Kashmir has been extended.

    Jammu and Kashmir is also the only Indian state that has its own flag and constitution, and Indians from other states cannot purchase land or property in the state.Designed by the then ruling National Conference, the flag of Jammu and Kashmir features a plough on a red background symbolizing labour substituted the Maharaja's state flag.


    from here
     
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  12. Tshering22

    Tshering22 Sikkimese Saber Senior Member

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    You consider them any different from India? Why separate them from Indian identity? They were not always Islamic. Neither is the state of Kashmir an islamic state being a part of India.

    Pakistanis only care about the rivers on their side that we control. We have so many options to annihilate Pakistan without even firing a single bullet. But when we have foreign agents in our own government serving their oil dollar masters, what can be said.
     
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    Tshering22 Sikkimese Saber Senior Member

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    The real truth most liberalists and other "we're secular" people would run away from, denying the truth.
     
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    Just one question to the maker of this documentary..What about Kasmiri Pandits?
     
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    He is not a registered member here.:rolleyes:
     
  16. pankaj nema

    pankaj nema Senior Member Senior Member

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    What has happened to kashmiri Pundits CAN NEVER be undone

    But the real problem for and of kashmiri Muslims AND the reason
    for all the unhappiness in their lives is that their HEARTS beat for Pakistan

    And hence India has no other option but to rule them by force
     
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    There is only 1 solution for J&K.

    1> Rehabilitation of Kashmiri Pundits under tight securities.
    2> Abolish Article 365, so that any person can buy property or/and settle there.

    3> Anyone who has problem with being called as Indian. Shot at Lal chowk without any interrogation. No question, Nothing. Democracy doesn't mean, Kashmiri Muslims will kill native Hindu people and will force to leave the place who are living there for thousand of years. Those who have problem with Indian Kashmir, Free to take Samjhota Express=II without return ticket.

    Government is bunch of cowards, Enough of it. I have met few Pundits who living in own country as 2nd class citizen. In Jammu region alone, they are in million living in camps and living life with no hope. Unforgettable pain!!
     
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    You're quoting Wikipedia, which even though is a treasure trove of free information is not an authentic source. I'll post an article, when I have some time to kill. Look out for this thread in the coming days or even better subscribe to it.
     
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    Tshering22 Sikkimese Saber Senior Member

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    I like your approach but before that, this mob rule will have to end in our country. Only then these steps can be taken.
     
  20. pankaj nema

    pankaj nema Senior Member Senior Member

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    What is so special and different about kashmir that kashmiri muslims cannot COME TO TERMS with
    this simple fact that Kashmir is an integral part of India which we will never let go off

    All this love for Pakistan has ruined the lives of Kashmiris and given them only grief
     
  21. pmaitra

    pmaitra Moderator Moderator

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    That's a bad idea.

    I agree with the rest of your post.
     

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