INS Chakra/Akula II

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  1. Phantom

    Phantom Regular Member

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    If it wasn't going to act as a 'Potential Threat', would India bother with it in the first place? Any/every weapon is a 'potential threat' as befits it's magnitude.:lol:
     
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    Who cares abt Pakistan Navy, Our concern is global ..

    Pakistan is stuck in past and will never recover, For us we moved on ..
     
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    Brahmos are enough for PN, their is no need of nuclear submarine to take care of PN.
     
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    with respect, i will call this statement over confidence
     
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    Perhaps he was referring to Brahmos combined with SSK platforms (of which none exist yet), in which case, he's right to say that's enough to deal with the PN.

    For dealing with the PLAN?..... not so much.

    India's surface-fleet is shaping-up nicely, and such vessels will be very effective as symbols of political influence. However, SSNs are where a global-navy's real combat capability lies (SSKs are too short legged to project such power). I think Arihant is a very good starting-point, and the design is probably adaptable for such a role as improvements are made; but you'll need to build more than just 4-6 of these boats.
     
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    need some more info about Akula-2 sessors..

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    Sensors Sox LSM-200 "Toucan" in the superstructure, and fence cutting PLA K-157 "Wild Boar" Pr. 971 AKULA-II

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    As per latest reports the Chakra is all set to enter a 3 months long refit.. The first one since it was inducted into Indian Navy in 2012
     
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    Indian Navy's INS chakra-2 submarine is pictured at the naval warehouse in Visakhapatnam November 18, 2014. REUTERS
     
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    India will have to rent Russian nuclear submarine
     
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    Either the reporting is wrong or we might be being taken for a ride again by the Russians because sources indicating the cost to be $2.7B which will be more than triple what was paid for Chakra II / Nerpa. I personally suspect that we might be negotiating for not 1 but 2 additional subs. Why I say this is because there are currently 2 Akula-II's in Sevmash that were removed from the Pacific Fleet for overhaul and modernization (a client of mine, Dockwise, was contracted for the logistics). These 2 subs are the Kashalot K-322 which is mentioned AND her sister the Bratsk K-391. Both are amongst the oldest Akula's left (being commissioned in 1988 & 1989 respectively) which would mean extensive and deep modernization will be needed. There is also a 60% finished hull, Iribis which is lying in Amur Shipyard that had previously been offered to us but given that the yard itself is now in no fit state to conduct such works it seems calmer heads have prevailed. Another vessel Kuzbass K-419 has been in overhaul / refit for a number of years now and may also be on the table if the Russians are short of funds. A fleet of 4 SSN's to hold us down until our 6 domestic ones come into service will be quite a strategic coup.
     
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    The price mentioned in India Today article is USD $ 2.7 billion..Its quite high..
     
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    arnabmit Homo Communis Indus Senior Member

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    The hulls under negotiation are Kashalot and Iribis. Not Bratsk. Bratsk would be modernized for use by Russian Pacific fleet. If all goes well we will get Kashalot by 2017 and Iribis by 2020. Iribis hull might be transported to Sevmash to finish construction.

    By the time Nerpa's lease period ends in 2022, we should have at least 1 indigenous SSN in the water. If not (delay in Indigenous SSN project), buy option after the lease period might also be exercised.

     
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    $2.7b is very high for 1 sub, but the amount actually might be for 2 subs. Kashalot and Iribis.
     
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    The wikipedia page for the akula class subs states that india is negotiating for 2 subs the kashalot and irbis but uptill now all the news reports claim only 1 hull is being negotiated upon. We will just have to wait and see.
     
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