INS Betwa, Navy's Missile Frigate, Tips Over At Mumbai Dockyard

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Either the SOP was not proper, or there were incompetent personnel at the dock following instructions they don't understand. Unprofessional behavior at best and criminal negligence impacting national security at worst.

Procedures at the dockyard must be reviewed and heads must roll for being in jobs that they are not capable of.
Navy should also update its procedures to ensure that their assets are not lost because this is not a case of I gave my car to a mechanic.
 

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Some new updates. The ship went turtle due to weight imbalance. Navy officials are saying it is too early to write it off. The internal machinery may / may not be damaged. If it is uneconomical to repair then it will be written off.

https://www.google.co.in/amp/m.indi...an-navy-capsized-warship-mumbai/1/827980.html
They will scam taxpayer's money whichever way.
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BTW my response to this accident is :pound: , fucking losers.

Saalon ne pura jahaj he palta diya, woh bi docks main.

Look at the area around, it looks like build on a slum by preserving all its architectural identities. What a workshop to work in.
 

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Some good news here.

Indian Navy will make the ship battle ready ASAP!



Can somebody please extract tweet. Am on mobile.
 

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Its sure entertaining doing ranting on internet ..

But not so for Navy and their families who lost two of its best, They are not cursing each other but trying to do better what they do everyday.

IN is made of men behind machines, Human error is part of life ..

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Unlike our English media, china local and Pakis English media have set of very different rules while publishing their country failures, This is a offtopic..

she will , but u can not hide utter unprofessionalism by IN and its several incidents in the past

its shameful and embarrassing keeping in mind pak-china nexus getting stronger in sea
 
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she will , but u can not hide utter unprofessionalism by IN and its several incidents in the past

its shameful and embarrassing keeping in mind pak-china nexus getting stronger in sea
Read my post #30 above. The IN has nothing to do with dock operations. They have nothing to do with ship building/repairs/overhauls too. IN reps are present just for supervision to see the work goes as per schedule.
 

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How much of this is carelessness (bad maintenence) and how much is this sabotage[Internal and external] ?
 

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After Accident, INS Betwa May Not Set Sail Again


Some of the few warships accidents of Indian Navy. INS Betwa tipped over, killing two sailors and injuring 14, has suffered extensive damages.

Top naval officers feel that the way in which the INS Betwa tipped over inside the naval dockyard on Monday, her services may not be used again, as she has been severely damaged.

Two naval personnel Ashutosh Pande and Niraj Rai (both engineers) died in the accident and 14 were injured. The injured were taken to the INHS Asvini at Colaba.

The incident took place at 1.50 pm when the Brahmaputra class guided missile frigate was being undocked.

Naval spokesperson Commander Rahul Sinha said, “At about 1.50 pm today, INS Betwa, a frigate of the Indian Navy, was in the process of undocking in Naval Dockyard when she slipped from her dock blocks and tilted. Immediate action was taken to get all personnel to safety. Two sailors however, succumbed to injuries post the incident.”



Technical evaluation for making the ship upright is in progress and an inquiry into the incident has been ordered, he added.

Sources in the dockyard said that the ship has been severely damaged and even after a refit and repairs, she may not be put to use again.

In the last four to five years, the western naval command has witnessed a series of accidents and the largest one was a fire in submarine Sindhurakshak that had killed 18 personnel and officers in 2013. Little over a year ago, then Admiral Robin Dhowan had warned the western naval command asking them to cut down on human error.

Soon after the incident, senior officers visited the spot. A team of city police officers led by deputy commissioner Manoj Sharma visited the spot and registered a case of accidental death.

About the Ship

INS Betwa is a Brahmaputra Class Guided Missile frigate and is named after Betwa river. She has a displacement of 3850 tons and is 126.4 metres in length. She was commissioned on July 7, 2004.

The Brahmaputra class frigates are the guided-missile frigates of the Indian Navy, designed and built in India. They have a displacement of 3850 tons and a length of 126 metres. Although of similar hull and dimension, internally, the Brahmaputra and Godavari classes have different configurations, armaments and capabilities. The shipclass has acquired its name owing to the ‘River Brahmaputra’. Other ships of the class are also named after Indian Rivers.

Betwa was a part of Task Force 54, returning from the Mediterranean, when the 2006 Israel-Lebanon Conflict broke out. As a part of Operation Sukoon, Betwa participated in the evacuation of Indian citizens from Lebanon to Cyprus.


Bravo Bravo, crores of rupees gone to waste.

Man made things can be remade but lives lost cannot be brought back.

Chalta hai attitude wins once again.
 

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After Accident, INS Betwa May Not Set Sail Again


Some of the few warships accidents of Indian Navy. INS Betwa tipped over, killing two sailors and injuring 14, has suffered extensive damages.

Top naval officers feel that the way in which the INS Betwa tipped over inside the naval dockyard on Monday, her services may not be used again, as she has been severely damaged.

Two naval personnel Ashutosh Pande and Niraj Rai (both engineers) died in the accident and 14 were injured. The injured were taken to the INHS Asvini at Colaba.

The incident took place at 1.50 pm when the Brahmaputra class guided missile frigate was being undocked.

Naval spokesperson Commander Rahul Sinha said, “At about 1.50 pm today, INS Betwa, a frigate of the Indian Navy, was in the process of undocking in Naval Dockyard when she slipped from her dock blocks and tilted. Immediate action was taken to get all personnel to safety. Two sailors however, succumbed to injuries post the incident.”



Technical evaluation for making the ship upright is in progress and an inquiry into the incident has been ordered, he added.

Sources in the dockyard said that the ship has been severely damaged and even after a refit and repairs, she may not be put to use again.

In the last four to five years, the western naval command has witnessed a series of accidents and the largest one was a fire in submarine Sindhurakshak that had killed 18 personnel and officers in 2013. Little over a year ago, then Admiral Robin Dhowan had warned the western naval command asking them to cut down on human error.

Soon after the incident, senior officers visited the spot. A team of city police officers led by deputy commissioner Manoj Sharma visited the spot and registered a case of accidental death.

About the Ship

INS Betwa is a Brahmaputra Class Guided Missile frigate and is named after Betwa river. She has a displacement of 3850 tons and is 126.4 metres in length. She was commissioned on July 7, 2004.

The Brahmaputra class frigates are the guided-missile frigates of the Indian Navy, designed and built in India. They have a displacement of 3850 tons and a length of 126 metres. Although of similar hull and dimension, internally, the Brahmaputra and Godavari classes have different configurations, armaments and capabilities. The shipclass has acquired its name owing to the ‘River Brahmaputra’. Other ships of the class are also named after Indian Rivers.

Betwa was a part of Task Force 54, returning from the Mediterranean, when the 2006 Israel-Lebanon Conflict broke out. As a part of Operation Sukoon, Betwa participated in the evacuation of Indian citizens from Lebanon to Cyprus.


Bravo Bravo, crores of rupees gone to waste.

Man made things can be remade but lives lost cannot be brought back.

Chalta hai attitude.....
Are you a Pakistani troller or plain illiterate?

Indian Navy said they will repair the ship and put it into service again. Refer the tweets I put up.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/ins-betwa-naval-dockyard-mumbai-manohar-parrikar/1/828389.html
 

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Are you a Pakistani troller or plain illiterate?

Indian Navy said they will repair the ship and put it into service again. Refer the tweets I put up.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/ins-betwa-naval-dockyard-mumbai-manohar-parrikar/1/828389.html

INS Betwa slippage: Never seen anything like this, negligence likely cause, says naval community

“It falls under the category of rarest of rare,” said the captain, referring to the ‘slipping’ of INS Betwa inside the Naval Dockyard in Mumbai. The Indian Navy’s (IN) self-designed and built frigate named INS Betwa embodied the spirit of being the ‘impregnable’. It is a fact evident from its crest which sports the Stupa of Sanchi, located on the banks of Betwa river in Vidisha, Madhya Pradesh.

On Monday, after putting in nearly 12 years and five months in service, at about 1:50pm, something gave away. The impact of it was so severe that it plunged the ship into the muddy waters inside Mumbai’s Naval Dockyard. Nearly 12 hours later, it remains there. What also remains is a solid question mark over her ability to even recover.

According to a statement released by the IN, INS Betwa was ‘In the process of undocking when she slipped from her dock blocks and tilted’. The IN also said that a ‘technical evaluation’ was underway to make the ship upright. Chief of Naval Staff (CNS) Admiral Sunil Lanba will spend time in Mumbai on Tuesday getting first hand information of the circumstances.

Simply put, undocking is an action of setting the ship free from the dock that holds her. The way to undock a ship is to let her float on her own. Thus, inside the dock, where the INS Betwa had gone for refit, in a controlled manner, sea water is allowed in. Once the ship finds adequate water to attain buoyancy, it undocks.

NEVER SEEN THIS BEFORE

Commanded by Captain Uday Thapar, an aviator, the settings that trap INS Betwa evoke strong feelings among those who’ve dealt with docking and undocking of ships like the INS Betwa and even bigger ones.

They say they are stumped at what their eyes are seeing. While the IN did not release any footage, images obtained through sources have shocked observers. India Today spoke to several naval officers, serving and retired. Most of them said they’d never come across anything like this even as a case study far less an actual prospect.

“Either the dock slabs were placed wrongly or the dock blocks were corroded. The weight calculations were faulty and that is why it tipped over,” said a retired officer. Another senior officer, belonging to the technical branch added, “Ships start floating from the forepeak (front portion) which keeps them stable during undocking. Problem arises if she starts floating from the rear first”. He said he was ‘deeply saddened’ at seeing ‘such a sorry spectacle’.

SIGNS OF SHORT CUTS TAKEN: RETIRED ADMIRAL

Dinesh Chauhan, a former Coast Guard Commandant and a technical officer who has overseen several undockings said, “This is simply unimaginable. Unlike a merchant ship whose body is U-shaped, a naval or coast guard ship is V-shaped so stability has to be maintained at all costs”. According to him, the Admiral Superintendent (ASD) at the Naval Dockyard, Western Naval Command’s Command Technical Officer and the crew o the ship need to be held accountable.

A retired Rear Admiral who too was a technical officer said, “This has all the signs of a short cut taken or a negligence shown, especially from the ship’s crew. You can keep saying that the civilian workforce does a shoddy job but that is precisely the reason why you are deployed – to effectively overlook matters and intervene when required”.

In January 2011, another naval frigate, INS Vindhyagiri had listed on its left (port side) and gone down inside the naval dockyard following a collision a sea with a merchant ship. While the IN did eventually set her upright, she had to be written off. So severe was the damage. In August 2013, the Sindhughosh-class submarine, INS Sindhurakshak too sank inside the shallow waters of the dockyard following a massive explosion on board. Neither the crew on board nor the submarine survived, even though a complex salvage operation saw the boat being lifted out of water months after the incident.
 

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25% flooded, 10% weaponry was on-board, costed 600 crore commissioned in 2006.

Will take at least 2 year to make it battle ready.
 

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Its sure entertaining doing ranting on internet ..

But not so for Navy who lost two of its best and their families, They are not cursing each other but trying to do better what they do everyday.

IN is made of men behind machines, Human error is part of life ..

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Unlike our English media, china local and Pakis English media have set of very different rules while publishing their country failures, This is a offtopic..

i agree .but u can not ignore the fact there is bit more negative going on our navy. every other day some new accident some of them are silly by nature
 

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Guys please look at the positive side
It was an old ship

It is NOT a new Talwar class or Shivalik class or Kolkata class ship

We live and learn

The Navy has also said that such an accident has happened for the first time
in India
 

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There is one silver lining. Barak 8 may be installed along with Brahmos. Refit will be a deep one extending service life.
 

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There is one silver lining. Barak 8 may be installed along with Brahmos. Refit will be a deep one extending service life.
i like that silver lining i hope we can salvage but i dont see barak 8 brahmos maybe barak 8 is costly i dont think it will be fitted in anything less than a destroyer lets hope im wrong.
 

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i like that silver lining i hope we can salvage but i dont see barak 8 brahmos maybe barak 8 is costly i dont think it will be fitted in anything less than a destroyer lets hope im wrong.
Salvage is happening. They are calling in experts from outside.

https://www.google.co.in/amp/m.time...eign-help-sought/amp_articleshow/55844031.cms

https://www.google.co.in/amp/m.ndtv...p=1&akamai-rum=off?client=ms-android-micromax

Judging by articles press is disappointed that Indian Navy will be able to save the ship. These gaddar must be infiltrated and purged.
 

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Read my post #30 above. The IN has nothing to do with dock operations. They have nothing to do with ship building/repairs/overhauls too. IN reps are present just for supervision to see the work goes as per schedule.
Thank you. I was thinking the same thing. I think we should first collect information instead of a knee-jerk reaction of blaming, in this case, the Indian Navy.
 

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