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  1. A.V.

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    KS172- Joint Venture between India's DRDO and Russias NPO Novator.

    SpeciFications :

    - It is an ultra Long Range AAM with a Development Range of 400KMs To Target AEW/AWAC Type High Value Aircrafts.

    - Sole Carrier in the Indian AF will be the Su-30MKI

    Features ( Dimensions) :

    - 1.4 Meter long Rocket Booster

    - Weight 748Kgs

    - Core Diameter 0.40 Meter , Total Lenght 6.01 Meters , Span .61 Meters

    - Launched by a Solid-propellant Tandem Rocket Booster

    - The KS 172 will attack its Targets with an adaptive high explosive ( HE) fragmentation warhead.

    Guidance

    - Secure Data-Linked Based inertial Navigation System for MidCourse Guidance ( This would probably be done by AWACS or the 2-3 MKIs Working in Tandem with their Mini AWACS Capability)

    - Active Radar Homing for its Terminal Phase.

    -The missile will be used against air targets flying at altitudes from 3m to 30km with speeds up to 4,000km/h and manoeuvring at up to 12g.



    DRDO and NPO will jointly Develop:
    - An Active Homing Radar Seeker with a Wide Lock-On Range Which is able to recieve targeting data from the launch AC.

    - Design a combined Gas/AeroDynamic Control system with 3d TVC . Provides High Manoeuvrability irrespective of launch Conditions and allows for missle launch with AC in super Manoeuvrability flight mode.

    - Create and Adaptive Rapid Reaction Autopilot Which Optimises with Missile Stabilization and control Parameters within the firing range.

    - Development of Special Interaction Logic btween the KS-172 Explosive Fuse and Guidance system Which ( In addition to structural and config features) gurantees absolute immunity of the Warhead detonation system to Jamming


    The KS-172 may have been based on the airframe of the 9K37M1 Buk-M surface-to-air missile. It used a two-stage rocket engine with a flight speed of about Mach 4 and a claimed maximum range of 400 km (250 mi). The AAM-L flies to the vicinity of the target by inertial navigation, then activates its own active radar for terminal homing.

    The AAM-L missile is intended for use against Airborne Early Warning, tanker, and maritime patrol aircraft, giving an air force the ability to attack these vital assets without having to engage their fighter escorts. Enhanced-range versions have also been suggested as possible anti-satellite weapons.

    KS-172 RVV-L | Russian Arms, Military Technology, Analysis of Russia's Military Forces
     
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    What the status of it ? i mean its in development or in production .
     
  4. A.V.

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    sir its certainly in developmental stage and not in production otherwise we would have had much more news and publicity.i think the new seeker system is the most important part and i think its in development at the moment
     
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    This is going to be an AWAC-KILLER as I posted in NDR it maybe developmental but pakistani eeryie has 400km range and so does this missile so in effect their
    AWAC'S or any air radar capability they have will be destroyed and we will dominate their airspace and bomb them into oblivion.
     
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    Sagar, this is air to air missile. Not air to aground bomb/missile. It is not designed for that role.
     
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    wouldn't a 400 KM range break any moratorium on the export/joint development of Missiles more than it?? Does it apply to AAM??

    When this Missile becomes Operational it can be called the Father of all AAM! :)
     
  10. LETHALFORCE

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    no there are no violations for 400km .
     
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    i think this 400 km range applies only for balistic missile,not sure though because both india and russia had to reduce the range of brahmos to 390 km although it is not a ballistic missile,but a cruise missile.
     
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    Don't worry too much about being correct when nuclear proliferation is rampant and our security is at stake.
     
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    Indian cosmonauts in Russian spaceships

    http://www.russiatoday.com/Top_News/2009-03-02/Indian_cosmonauts_in_Russian_spaceships.html

    Indian cosmonauts in Russian spaceships


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    Russia and India are expected to collaborate on launch vehicles for future manned space missions.
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    India plans to use Russian experience and equipment in its space programme to send a man into orbit, informed Madhavan Nair, the Chairman of Indian Space Research Organization (ISRO).

    Russia and India share a Memorandum of Understanding on Joint Activities in the Field of Human Spaceflight Programme, which was signed during the visit of Russian President Dmitry Medvedev to India in 2008.

    “We are considering a manned space flight of our own. Russia has vast experience in man-controlled spaceflight which we hope it will share with us to help the Indian space programme. We plan to perform the first Indian space flight on a Russian space vessel,” said Madhavan Nair to the press-service of Russian space corporation Roskosmos, summing up the results of his visit to Russia.
     
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    Not only ballistic missiles but any unmanned delivery systems capable of delivering WMD. And the Range limit is 300KM.(condition applied)

    Report says Brahmos have a range of 290 KM
     
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    MTCR is described specifically for unmanned delivery systems capable of delivering WMD, supposing it will not be able to carry any NBC warheards it shouldn't go against MTCR guidelines [/QUOTE]

    :D
     
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    400 kms is quite a lethal distance. But, how effective will it be? In more accurate terms, how accurate will it be?

    Plus, we also need a radar capable of scanning 400 kms if we were to use this missile. Does this mean that it can also be guided by our AWACS ???
     
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    It depends upon the seeker but I think at least initial tracking should be done through a AEW&C if 400KM since fighter radars would fall short in range. However other ways of guiding the missile cannot be ignored.
     
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    Terminal Active radar homing
    Being an Awacs hunter, I assume maneuverability and speed are foregone for range and ability to work in dense electronic clutter.
     
  19. LETHALFORCE

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    this missile is analagous to a shark hunting a whale.
     
  20. EnlightenedMonk

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    Personally I'm a little skeptical about the missile. After this missile has been fired, can the AWACS have any countermeasures against this missile? And, can the AWACS try any evasive manouvers? (I know its a huge plane, but am still asking)

    Can it be defeated by any jammers etc? And, even though 400kms is a huge range, I think it may not be as nimble as other missiles of shorter range...

    And, I'm pretty sure it's darn expensive...hehehehe...:(:(:(
     
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    India, Iran, Russia mull ways to take on Taliban


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