Indo-Pak joint statement at Cairo on Baluchistan, and the aftermath
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Let them have a short celebration. Let's wait till the Prime Minister gives a statement in the parliament tomorrow i.e. wednesday
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Kayani links Balochistan to Pak’s fight against terror
Zeenews Bureau
New Delhi: Just days after Balochistan was referred to in the Indo-Pak joint statement issued in Sharm-el-Sheikh, Egypt following a meeting between Prime Ministers Manmohan Singh and Yousaf Raza Gilani, Islamabad has already launched an all-out propaganda against the alleged Indian interference in its troubled province.
Reports in the US media suggest quoting official Pakistani sources that the country’s Army Chief Ashfaq Pervez Kayani recently tried to establish a connect between Islamabad’s action against the Lashkar-e-Toiba and New Delhi ending its alleged covert operations in Balochistan.
The New York Times reported that Kayani, in conversations with the Obama administration, had tried to link Pak’s action against terror to stabilisation in Balochistan.
“They say, ‘We are being more vigilant,’ but add, ‘By the way, India has to stop messing around in Balochistan,” the NYT quoted an American official familiar with the conversations as saying of the Pakistanis, referring to the Balochistan province that has been torn by a brutal sectarian struggle, in which Pakistan has accused India of financing insurgents.
Kayani's move has made it clear that Pakistan would use the Balochistan reference in the joint statement in future to defend its action against terror groups and the delay in the 26/11 trial.
Islamabad may even go to the extent of comparing India’s foreign intelligence agency, RAW to its own ISI, which New Delhi has consistently blamed for anti-India activities. Pakistan is now expected to accuse the RAW of destabilising Balochistan, both at bilateral talks as well as international fora.
Richard Holbrooke, the US’ special envoy for Af-Pak, is already believed to have spoken to Indian officials about India’s “activities” in Balochistan.
Gilani too, following the ‘victory’ at Sharm-el-Sheikh, has made sure the issue of Balochistan doesn’t die soon.
While announcing the beginning of a new chapter in relations with India, Gilani has said the joint statement “underlines (Pakistan’s) concerns over Indian interference in Balochistan and other areas of Pakistan” and “calls for working to create an atmosphere of mutual trust and confidence”.
Prime Minister Singh is due to make a statement in Parliament on Wednesday to tell why he let the Pakistani propaganda on Balochistan be added in the joint statement.
Whatever the PM says tomorrow to defend that error, Pakistanis are already celebrating. “We’ve externalised an internal problem,” the Wall Street Journal quoted a senior Pakistani official as saying.
Zeenews Bureau
New Delhi: Just days after Balochistan was referred to in the Indo-Pak joint statement issued in Sharm-el-Sheikh, Egypt following a meeting between Prime Ministers Manmohan Singh and Yousaf Raza Gilani, Islamabad has already launched an all-out propaganda against the alleged Indian interference in its troubled province.
Reports in the US media suggest quoting official Pakistani sources that the country’s Army Chief Ashfaq Pervez Kayani recently tried to establish a connect between Islamabad’s action against the Lashkar-e-Toiba and New Delhi ending its alleged covert operations in Balochistan.
The New York Times reported that Kayani, in conversations with the Obama administration, had tried to link Pak’s action against terror to stabilisation in Balochistan.
“They say, ‘We are being more vigilant,’ but add, ‘By the way, India has to stop messing around in Balochistan,” the NYT quoted an American official familiar with the conversations as saying of the Pakistanis, referring to the Balochistan province that has been torn by a brutal sectarian struggle, in which Pakistan has accused India of financing insurgents.
Kayani's move has made it clear that Pakistan would use the Balochistan reference in the joint statement in future to defend its action against terror groups and the delay in the 26/11 trial.
Islamabad may even go to the extent of comparing India’s foreign intelligence agency, RAW to its own ISI, which New Delhi has consistently blamed for anti-India activities. Pakistan is now expected to accuse the RAW of destabilising Balochistan, both at bilateral talks as well as international fora.
Richard Holbrooke, the US’ special envoy for Af-Pak, is already believed to have spoken to Indian officials about India’s “activities” in Balochistan.
Gilani too, following the ‘victory’ at Sharm-el-Sheikh, has made sure the issue of Balochistan doesn’t die soon.
While announcing the beginning of a new chapter in relations with India, Gilani has said the joint statement “underlines (Pakistan’s) concerns over Indian interference in Balochistan and other areas of Pakistan” and “calls for working to create an atmosphere of mutual trust and confidence”.
Prime Minister Singh is due to make a statement in Parliament on Wednesday to tell why he let the Pakistani propaganda on Balochistan be added in the joint statement.
Whatever the PM says tomorrow to defend that error, Pakistanis are already celebrating. “We’ve externalised an internal problem,” the Wall Street Journal quoted a senior Pakistani official as saying.
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दाग़े-शबे-हिज्राँ बुझाये नहीं बुझते
आँसू बहते हैं इतना छुपाये नहीं छिपते
होता है कभी, शाम आती है चाँद नहीं आता
मरासिम हम से यूँ निभाये नहीं निभते
ख़ुदा के आस्ताँ पे आज भी सर झुकाये हूँ
मगर दाग़े-दिल उसे दिखाये नहीं दिखते
हैं जो हमको ज़ख़्म’ सो तेरे तस्व्वुर से हैं
यह ज़ख़्म सीने से मिटाये नहीं मिटते
(विनय प्रजापति)
http://vinayprajapati.wordpress.com/2009/02/23/daagh-e-shab-e-hijran-bujhaaye-nahiin-bhujhate/
India's roller-coaster policy on Pakistan
India needs statecraft, not stagecraft
Two successive prime ministers have led India on a roller-coaster ride on Pakistan, highlighting the risks of a meandering, personality-driven policy approach, says Brahma Chellaney
The Economic Times, July 24, 2009
The national outcry over Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s cave-in at Sharm-el-Sheikh may have caught him by surprise. Singh probably calculated that just as he had got away by embracing the sponsor of terror, Pakistan, as a fellow victim of terror — through the infamous Joint Anti-Terror Mechanism — he could use another non-aligned nations’ meeting to reverse India’s post-26/11 policy at the US urging. But the chorus of disapproval that has greeted his volte-face shows he underrated the continuing anger in India over the unparalleled Pakistani terrorist assaults on Mumbai. After all, India is being uniquely targeted not just by non-state actors (NSAs), but by state-sponsored non-state actors (SSNSAs), with Singh himself having admitted earlier that “some Pakistani official agencies must have supported” the Mumbai attacks.
Like his predecessor, Atal Bihari Vajpayee, Singh has taken India on a roller-coaster ride on counterterrorism, with an ever-shifting policy course on Pakistan. His latest U-turn on Pakistan, however, parallels the manner he pushed through the controversial nuclear deal with the US. In both cases, he broke his solemn assurances to Parliament. Also, like the nuclear deal, Singh’s decision to delink talks with Islamabad from Pakistani action against terrorism was the product not of institutional thinking but of personal choice. Yet another parallel is that the PM has himself moved the goalpost to help cover his concessions. And just as he tried to spin the reality on the terms and conditions of the nuclear deal, Singh has turned to casuistry to camouflage his shift on Pakistan.
Calling Pakistan “the epicentre of terrorism”, the PM declared in the Lok Sabha on December 11, 2008 that, “The infrastructure of terrorism has to be dismantled permanently.” Pakistan must meet the “minimum pre-condition” of ensuring its soil will not be used for terror activities against India, Singh had put on public record. Yet today, his government willy-nilly is moving back to business as usual with Pakistan, although Islamabad has done nothing — as New Delhi admits — to shut down terrorist-training camps along the Indian border or to cut the lifeline its military establishment provides to the terror groups.
Just as the nuclear deal bore Singh’s personal imprint, the latest Pakistan-policy shift has been sculpted by him, with little regard for professional inputs. Indeed, he has ignored the lesson from his 2006 action when he turned Indian policy on its head and embraced Pakistan as fellow victim of and joint partner against terror. The stalled Joint Anti-Terror Mechanism has stood out as an astonishing blunder. Still, at Sharm-el-Sheikh, Singh again obliterated the line between the victim and the aggressor by agreeing that “terrorism is the main threat to both countries”, and then went one step further to commit India to “share real-time, credible and actionable” intelligence on terrorism with the country still wedded to waging war by terror.
Now take the shifting goalpost. Singh first sought the dismantlement of Pakistan’s terror infrastructure against India. His benchmark then narrowed to bringing to justice the “perpetrators” (the actual executors, not the masterminds) of the Mumbai attacks. Next, on the way back home from the G-8 L’Aquila summit, Singh further watered down his stance by saying India was “willing to walk more than half the distance” if Pakistan undertook not actual action but merely offered “a renewed reaffirmation” to “bring the perpetrators of the Mumbai massacre to justice”. That is exactly what happened: In exchange for Pakistan’s mere reaffirmation of its anti-terror commitments, Singh changed Indian policy course. Such a shifting goalpost is redolent of the nuclear deal.
The reliance on spin to cloak concessions has been another defining characteristic. On Mumbai, India lost twice over — the first time when 10 Pakistani terrorists held its commercial capital hostage for almost three days, and the second time when Islamabad outmaneuvered it in the diplomatic game, to the extent that Pakistan managed to formally turn the insurrection in its Baluchistan province into a bilateral issue to help brand its terror target, India, as an accused. Yet Singh has followed a familiar pattern to cover up broken promises to the nation. The Sharm-el-Sheikh statement “does not mean any dilution of our stand. It only strengthens our stand,” he claimed. Yet, on specifics, he has not explained the false move on Baluchistan, or the delinking of talks from Pakistani action against terrorism, or the placing on record India’s interest in a stable, democratic, “Islamic Republic of Pakistan”, as if to endorse dictator Zia ul-Haq’s Islamization and the jihad culture it instilled.
Let’s be clear: The inclusion of Baluchistan resulted from US pressure on India to address Pakistan’s concerns over Indian consular and other activities in Afghanistan. And the agreement to share real-time actionable intelligence is part of a CIA initiative to build cooperation between the Indian and Pakistani intelligence agencies. Even Hillary Clinton publicly sought “sharing of workable intelligence”. The Obama administration had made it clear it would wait for the Indian elections to be over before nudging New Delhi to reopen talks with Islamabad. The Sharm-el-Sheikh statement can only boost Washington’s Afpak strategy, a key component of which is to prop up the Pakistani state financially and politically.
Take yet another parallel: Just as Singh argued that without the nuclear deal India’s energy and economic interests would be seriously compromised, he now contends that without settling differences and making peace with Pakistan, India cannot be a great power. Every right-minded Indian would want peace. But to say that the country cannot emerge as a major power without making peace with the adversary is to go against the grain of world history and to embolden the foe to stay implacably antagonistic. Did China become a world power by coming to terms with Taiwan? Even if India surrendered Kashmir, would Pakistan be willing or able to stop cross-border terror attacks?
India’s meandering approach on Pakistan is just one example of Indian policy being unable to stay the course on matters critical to national interest. In the absence of realistic, goal-oriented statecraft or a distinct strategic doctrine, ad hoc, personality-driven policy-making is becoming the norm. A secure, prosperous India, however, can emerge only through institutionalized, integrated policymaking and the unflinching pursuit of clearly laid-out goals.
The writer is professor of strategic studies, Centre for Policy Research.
The Ecinomic Times, 2009.
http://chellaney.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!4913C7C8A2EA4A30!1054.entry
आँसू बहते हैं इतना छुपाये नहीं छिपते
होता है कभी, शाम आती है चाँद नहीं आता
मरासिम हम से यूँ निभाये नहीं निभते
ख़ुदा के आस्ताँ पे आज भी सर झुकाये हूँ
मगर दाग़े-दिल उसे दिखाये नहीं दिखते
हैं जो हमको ज़ख़्म’ सो तेरे तस्व्वुर से हैं
यह ज़ख़्म सीने से मिटाये नहीं मिटते
(विनय प्रजापति)
http://vinayprajapati.wordpress.com/2009/02/23/daagh-e-shab-e-hijran-bujhaaye-nahiin-bhujhate/
India's roller-coaster policy on Pakistan
India needs statecraft, not stagecraft
Two successive prime ministers have led India on a roller-coaster ride on Pakistan, highlighting the risks of a meandering, personality-driven policy approach, says Brahma Chellaney
The Economic Times, July 24, 2009
The national outcry over Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s cave-in at Sharm-el-Sheikh may have caught him by surprise. Singh probably calculated that just as he had got away by embracing the sponsor of terror, Pakistan, as a fellow victim of terror — through the infamous Joint Anti-Terror Mechanism — he could use another non-aligned nations’ meeting to reverse India’s post-26/11 policy at the US urging. But the chorus of disapproval that has greeted his volte-face shows he underrated the continuing anger in India over the unparalleled Pakistani terrorist assaults on Mumbai. After all, India is being uniquely targeted not just by non-state actors (NSAs), but by state-sponsored non-state actors (SSNSAs), with Singh himself having admitted earlier that “some Pakistani official agencies must have supported” the Mumbai attacks.
Like his predecessor, Atal Bihari Vajpayee, Singh has taken India on a roller-coaster ride on counterterrorism, with an ever-shifting policy course on Pakistan. His latest U-turn on Pakistan, however, parallels the manner he pushed through the controversial nuclear deal with the US. In both cases, he broke his solemn assurances to Parliament. Also, like the nuclear deal, Singh’s decision to delink talks with Islamabad from Pakistani action against terrorism was the product not of institutional thinking but of personal choice. Yet another parallel is that the PM has himself moved the goalpost to help cover his concessions. And just as he tried to spin the reality on the terms and conditions of the nuclear deal, Singh has turned to casuistry to camouflage his shift on Pakistan.
Calling Pakistan “the epicentre of terrorism”, the PM declared in the Lok Sabha on December 11, 2008 that, “The infrastructure of terrorism has to be dismantled permanently.” Pakistan must meet the “minimum pre-condition” of ensuring its soil will not be used for terror activities against India, Singh had put on public record. Yet today, his government willy-nilly is moving back to business as usual with Pakistan, although Islamabad has done nothing — as New Delhi admits — to shut down terrorist-training camps along the Indian border or to cut the lifeline its military establishment provides to the terror groups.
Just as the nuclear deal bore Singh’s personal imprint, the latest Pakistan-policy shift has been sculpted by him, with little regard for professional inputs. Indeed, he has ignored the lesson from his 2006 action when he turned Indian policy on its head and embraced Pakistan as fellow victim of and joint partner against terror. The stalled Joint Anti-Terror Mechanism has stood out as an astonishing blunder. Still, at Sharm-el-Sheikh, Singh again obliterated the line between the victim and the aggressor by agreeing that “terrorism is the main threat to both countries”, and then went one step further to commit India to “share real-time, credible and actionable” intelligence on terrorism with the country still wedded to waging war by terror.
Now take the shifting goalpost. Singh first sought the dismantlement of Pakistan’s terror infrastructure against India. His benchmark then narrowed to bringing to justice the “perpetrators” (the actual executors, not the masterminds) of the Mumbai attacks. Next, on the way back home from the G-8 L’Aquila summit, Singh further watered down his stance by saying India was “willing to walk more than half the distance” if Pakistan undertook not actual action but merely offered “a renewed reaffirmation” to “bring the perpetrators of the Mumbai massacre to justice”. That is exactly what happened: In exchange for Pakistan’s mere reaffirmation of its anti-terror commitments, Singh changed Indian policy course. Such a shifting goalpost is redolent of the nuclear deal.
The reliance on spin to cloak concessions has been another defining characteristic. On Mumbai, India lost twice over — the first time when 10 Pakistani terrorists held its commercial capital hostage for almost three days, and the second time when Islamabad outmaneuvered it in the diplomatic game, to the extent that Pakistan managed to formally turn the insurrection in its Baluchistan province into a bilateral issue to help brand its terror target, India, as an accused. Yet Singh has followed a familiar pattern to cover up broken promises to the nation. The Sharm-el-Sheikh statement “does not mean any dilution of our stand. It only strengthens our stand,” he claimed. Yet, on specifics, he has not explained the false move on Baluchistan, or the delinking of talks from Pakistani action against terrorism, or the placing on record India’s interest in a stable, democratic, “Islamic Republic of Pakistan”, as if to endorse dictator Zia ul-Haq’s Islamization and the jihad culture it instilled.
Let’s be clear: The inclusion of Baluchistan resulted from US pressure on India to address Pakistan’s concerns over Indian consular and other activities in Afghanistan. And the agreement to share real-time actionable intelligence is part of a CIA initiative to build cooperation between the Indian and Pakistani intelligence agencies. Even Hillary Clinton publicly sought “sharing of workable intelligence”. The Obama administration had made it clear it would wait for the Indian elections to be over before nudging New Delhi to reopen talks with Islamabad. The Sharm-el-Sheikh statement can only boost Washington’s Afpak strategy, a key component of which is to prop up the Pakistani state financially and politically.
Take yet another parallel: Just as Singh argued that without the nuclear deal India’s energy and economic interests would be seriously compromised, he now contends that without settling differences and making peace with Pakistan, India cannot be a great power. Every right-minded Indian would want peace. But to say that the country cannot emerge as a major power without making peace with the adversary is to go against the grain of world history and to embolden the foe to stay implacably antagonistic. Did China become a world power by coming to terms with Taiwan? Even if India surrendered Kashmir, would Pakistan be willing or able to stop cross-border terror attacks?
India’s meandering approach on Pakistan is just one example of Indian policy being unable to stay the course on matters critical to national interest. In the absence of realistic, goal-oriented statecraft or a distinct strategic doctrine, ad hoc, personality-driven policy-making is becoming the norm. A secure, prosperous India, however, can emerge only through institutionalized, integrated policymaking and the unflinching pursuit of clearly laid-out goals.
The writer is professor of strategic studies, Centre for Policy Research.
The Ecinomic Times, 2009.
http://chellaney.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!4913C7C8A2EA4A30!1054.entry
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The Hindu News Update Service
Pak should fulfill its commitments on terror: PM
New Delhi (PTI): Defending the India-Pak joint statement on Wednesday, in Parliament, the Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said, "It is impossible for any government in India to work for full normalisation of relations with Pakistan unless that country fulfills commitment to not to allow its territory to be used for terror against India".
Dr. Singh added that the people of India expect Pakistan to fulfill the commitment given in the joint statement of Vajpayee-Musharraf that Pak will not allow its territory to be used for terror against India. That is a common national consensus in India.
He also added that the Pak dossier makes it clear that LeT inspired, financed and executed the Mumbai attack and also this is the first time Pak formally briefed us on a terror attack in India.
Dr. Singh while speaking on the India-Pak joint statement added that Pakistan has said five persons, including Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakvi and Zarar Shah, have been arrested and 13 others declared as proclaimed offenders. He said that what India have got from Pakistan is much more than what it had got during NDA regime.
He said that Pakistan must shut down the terroist groups and organisations that still operate from there.
IANS report adds:
Pak admitted its nationals involved in terrorist attacks
Pakistan has admitted for the first time that its nationals carried out a terrorist attack in India, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said Wednesday.
"It is the first that they have admitted that their nationals in a terrorist organisation based in Pakistan carried out a ghastly attack in India," Dr. Manmohan Singh said in his reply to the debate in Lok Sabha on the India-Pakistan joint statement issued in Egypt.
He said that the admission was made in a dossier given by Pakistan just before he left for his visit to France and Egypt. "This is the first time that Pakistan has ever formally briefed us on the results of the investigations of any attacks," said the prime minister.
He said that the dossier detailed the planning and sequence of investigation by Pakistan's Federal Investigation Agency, which also included the copy of first information report lodged, with photos of the arrested person.
"The Pakistan dossier states that the investigation has established beyond doubt that Lashkar-e-Taiba has planned that attack," Dr. Manmohan Singh said.
Pak should fulfill its commitments on terror: PM
New Delhi (PTI): Defending the India-Pak joint statement on Wednesday, in Parliament, the Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said, "It is impossible for any government in India to work for full normalisation of relations with Pakistan unless that country fulfills commitment to not to allow its territory to be used for terror against India".
Dr. Singh added that the people of India expect Pakistan to fulfill the commitment given in the joint statement of Vajpayee-Musharraf that Pak will not allow its territory to be used for terror against India. That is a common national consensus in India.
He also added that the Pak dossier makes it clear that LeT inspired, financed and executed the Mumbai attack and also this is the first time Pak formally briefed us on a terror attack in India.
Dr. Singh while speaking on the India-Pak joint statement added that Pakistan has said five persons, including Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakvi and Zarar Shah, have been arrested and 13 others declared as proclaimed offenders. He said that what India have got from Pakistan is much more than what it had got during NDA regime.
He said that Pakistan must shut down the terroist groups and organisations that still operate from there.
IANS report adds:
Pak admitted its nationals involved in terrorist attacks
Pakistan has admitted for the first time that its nationals carried out a terrorist attack in India, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said Wednesday.
"It is the first that they have admitted that their nationals in a terrorist organisation based in Pakistan carried out a ghastly attack in India," Dr. Manmohan Singh said in his reply to the debate in Lok Sabha on the India-Pakistan joint statement issued in Egypt.
He said that the admission was made in a dossier given by Pakistan just before he left for his visit to France and Egypt. "This is the first time that Pakistan has ever formally briefed us on the results of the investigations of any attacks," said the prime minister.
He said that the dossier detailed the planning and sequence of investigation by Pakistan's Federal Investigation Agency, which also included the copy of first information report lodged, with photos of the arrested person.
"The Pakistan dossier states that the investigation has established beyond doubt that Lashkar-e-Taiba has planned that attack," Dr. Manmohan Singh said.
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No Balochistan dossier from Pakistan: PM - India - NEWS - The Times of India
No Balochistan dossier from Pakistan: PM
No Balochistan dossier from Pakistan: PM
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There is no dossier on Balochistan: PM tells Parliament
Zeenews Bureau
New Delhi: India has not diluted its stand vis-à-vis talks with Pakistan and there wil be no meaningful talks till terror is stopped from that country against India, PM Manmohan Singh told the Parliament on Wednesday.
Responding to the allegations and questions raised by the Opposition, PM said that while in the interest of peaceful future the two south Asian neighbours needed to be on the round table, there could be no progress if terror continued against India.
“It is impossible for any government in India to work for full normalisation of relations with Pakistan unless that country fulfills commitment to not to allow its territory to be used for terror against India and I told that to the Pakistan PM in Egypt,” the PM told a full Lok Sabha.
That is our position and we have not diluted it, the PM insisted. We can truly live in peace if the government of Pakistan follows its commitments in letter and spirit.
The PM dispelled reports that Pakistan has handed over any dossier on Balochistan to India.
“Gilani brought up the subject of many Indian consulates in Afghanistan and I told him we have been there since 60 years and this is not a recent happening. We are therefore willing to discuss everything because India does not have anything to hide,” he declared to thumping support from his coalition members.
People of India expect Pakistan to fulfill the commitment given in the joint statement of Vajpayee-Musharraf that Pak will not allow its territory to be used for terror against India. That is a common national consensus in India, the PM said.
The PM also said that the UPA government had made Pakistan, for the first time in history, to share its investigation in terror attacks against India. “The dossier handed over to us by Pak gives the details about how 26/11 was planned in Pakistan, about the investigation by FIA, a copy of the FIR against the accused, details of finance operations, literature in navigation etc. Lakhvi and Zarar Shah have been caught as masterminds and 13 others have been declared proclaimed offenders under the Anti Terrorist Act and other relevant laws of Pakistan,” Manmohan Singh informed the House.
That, he said, was much more than the NDA government ever could extract out of Pakistan.
”Unless we talk directly to Pakistan, we will have to depend on third parties. That has severe limitations and involvement of foreign powers in South Asia is not to our liking,” he added.
Zeenews Bureau
New Delhi: India has not diluted its stand vis-à-vis talks with Pakistan and there wil be no meaningful talks till terror is stopped from that country against India, PM Manmohan Singh told the Parliament on Wednesday.
Responding to the allegations and questions raised by the Opposition, PM said that while in the interest of peaceful future the two south Asian neighbours needed to be on the round table, there could be no progress if terror continued against India.
“It is impossible for any government in India to work for full normalisation of relations with Pakistan unless that country fulfills commitment to not to allow its territory to be used for terror against India and I told that to the Pakistan PM in Egypt,” the PM told a full Lok Sabha.
That is our position and we have not diluted it, the PM insisted. We can truly live in peace if the government of Pakistan follows its commitments in letter and spirit.
The PM dispelled reports that Pakistan has handed over any dossier on Balochistan to India.
“Gilani brought up the subject of many Indian consulates in Afghanistan and I told him we have been there since 60 years and this is not a recent happening. We are therefore willing to discuss everything because India does not have anything to hide,” he declared to thumping support from his coalition members.
People of India expect Pakistan to fulfill the commitment given in the joint statement of Vajpayee-Musharraf that Pak will not allow its territory to be used for terror against India. That is a common national consensus in India, the PM said.
The PM also said that the UPA government had made Pakistan, for the first time in history, to share its investigation in terror attacks against India. “The dossier handed over to us by Pak gives the details about how 26/11 was planned in Pakistan, about the investigation by FIA, a copy of the FIR against the accused, details of finance operations, literature in navigation etc. Lakhvi and Zarar Shah have been caught as masterminds and 13 others have been declared proclaimed offenders under the Anti Terrorist Act and other relevant laws of Pakistan,” Manmohan Singh informed the House.
That, he said, was much more than the NDA government ever could extract out of Pakistan.
”Unless we talk directly to Pakistan, we will have to depend on third parties. That has severe limitations and involvement of foreign powers in South Asia is not to our liking,” he added.
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The PM has told Pakistani PM in SeS that India will look into claims of indian involvement in B-Stan if he was given evidence. And Pakistan has gone crazy after that. I font see that as an admission of indian role in B-Stan.
I don't consider what Manmohan Singh did to be bad for India. All he said is that we don't have anything to hide. You guys wanna talk about it, then talk about it; you're only internationalizing your own internal issue. I have faith in mr. Singh.
Besides, today even Richard Holbrooke stated that Pakistan hasn't given any credible evidence.
Thus I think in the long run the country that will suffer from this is Pakistan, not India.
But let's wait and watch.
Besides, today even Richard Holbrooke stated that Pakistan hasn't given any credible evidence.
Thus I think in the long run the country that will suffer from this is Pakistan, not India.
But let's wait and watch.
see? all Pakistan has really done is make their internal matter public. I doubt many of us knew any of this before. This is the same mistake China has been making with Tibet, and Ughuirs (and to some extent, India with Kashmir).
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I agree. Although, Indian diplomacy(with our PM guiding them) messed up big time, the Pakistanis have not done any better. They are only making Balochistan into another Bangladesh. Infact, they have now given an opening to India to talk about Balochistan on international forums(since it is part of Indo-Pak joint statement). India can now DEMAND Pakistan to submit proof of Indian interference, failing which it would be proved that the Balochis themselves are fighting for freedom from Pakistan. This also gives Indian PM a chance to talk about the plight of Balochi people at forums like UN.
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Yusuf,
if you notice carefully, I said, by raising Balochistan in Indo-Pak joint statement, Pakistanis have given us an opening(a chance) to raise Balochistan(and its freedom struggle, neglect, plight) at International forums. Whether we take this chance is a different issue. But the thick-headedness that our diplomacy has displayed so far, my hopes are bare minimum.
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