India's own AESA Radars....dream to reality

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  1. Scrutator

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    This is cool!! Previously, BEL's BFSR had an Israeli (non-AESA) radar; not sure if the AESA radar here is indigenous or of Israeli origin!!
    These should be mast-mounted (10+ meter) for optimal effectiveness!!
     
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    Looks like a Day/Night camera on top. The concept of BFSR has been there for few years, but this rendition is completely new (especially with an AESA radar). Seems like we'll see proliferation of AESA technology everywhere!!!
     
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    brahmos design not what is said
     
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    Are you sure about it's Israeli origin?
     
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    The BFSR-MR (medium range) had an Israeli radar. The BFSR-SR (short range) had an Indian made radar.

    I am presuming that the one in the picture is medium-range (just going by the size)! Not sure about the origin of this AESA radar though!
     
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    REVEALED: The Indian LCA Navy’s Big Fight Back

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    On Tuesday here at the Aero India show, Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar added the latest in the series of nails in the coffin of the troubled LCA Navy, the carrier version of India’s in-service LCA Tejas. By now, the LCA Navy team in Bengaluru had gotten round to the reality that a paper plane that began in 2003 wouldn’t ever be an operational jet with a customer. Parrikar cajoled the team separately, assuring them that the government had no plans to pull the plug, and that the good work the team at the Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) had done for over a decade would not go to waste. But the reality stuck. All that work on LCA Navy Mk1 wouldn’t result in sales of the aircraft. It would be forever be a technology demonstrator.

    The last six months have brought headwind way beyond what this little jet was built for. But beyond the claimed stoicism of continuing endlessly with a project nobody wants, there’s a reality that has gone unreported so far. A reality that provides the first solid hope for a project that’s as good as dead but for an honour lifeline from the Department of Defence Production. And here’s the thing: it isn’t pity at all. Livefist met with ADA chief Commodore C.D. Balaji for what he described after as the frankest chat he’s had on the subject. And at the centre of the LCA Navy’s struggle for relevance is a solid kernel of hope.

    The ADA has opened dialogue with the Indian Navy with the hope that its customer will come round to the view that the LCA Navy Mk.2 will be a sensible graduated step to the big twin engine jets it finally wants to operate. “The LCA Navy Mk.2 would be a great stepping stone,” Balaji tells Livefist. And he’s backing his pitch with a solid timeframe.

    ‘We’re aiming for a first flight of the LCA Navy Mk.2 in late 2020 or early 2021. The detailed design will be complete by 2019. To save time, we’ve already ordered raw materials required,’ Balaji says. Two GE F414 engines — one for the AF prototype and one for the LCA Navy — arrived earlier this month, the first batch of eight engines contracted from GE for the Mk.2 programme. That the LCA Navy will be a more powerful combat jet is well known. What Livefist has now discovered from the team is that there are design and engineering improvements being effected on the LCA Navy Mk.2 that could prove dealmaker if they work out.

    For starters, the team plans to move the wings outboard by about 350mm, increasing the space significantly between the fuselage and the wings. This would immediately optimise load transfer (the ADA has had weight issues with the landing gear) and free up the central fuselage for fuel. ‘We believe the change will free up space for up to 700 kg additional fuel, providing about 22 minutes of additional time on task,’ Balaji tells Livefist. That’s huge for the tactical envelope the LCA platform was developed for.


    But there’s a great deal of work left on the LCA Navy Mk.1 before the Mk.2 can begin taking shape. In the immediate future this summer, the LCA Navy Mk.1 prototypes will begin ‘taxi in engagement’ drills, where the jets are throttled on ground into the arrester wire at Goa’s Shore Based Test Facility (SBTF) to exercise structural compatibility for a hook. The tests have been delayed three months thanks to a damper failure during field carrier landing practice (FCLP) dummy approaches last year.

    ‘Our focus with the Mk.1 is carrier suitability. We’ve got a good handle on carrier ops. Control laws have matured well, and sit right on top of our simulations. Deck recoveries are a different challenge and there are several lead-up activities planned,’ he says.

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    The ADA has built a new test rig to test horizontal and vertical loads during a deck recovery, including 7.1 m/s sink rate and the 45 ton load on an arrester wire. ‘Structurally, everything checks out,’ Balaji says, adding, ‘We are doing more dummy approaches to fine tune our control laws. Want to narrow everything down so we have very predictable landings.’

    Balaji smiles when pushed on the question of the Mk.1 and whether they are hoping for anything to come of it. ‘Saab has a Sea Gripen concept. They are in the same stage we were at in 2003 when we decided to create a carrier-capable derivative of the LCA Tejas. We have proven many technologies. The LCA Navy Mk.2 will incorporate every lesson we could possibly have learnt,’ he says.

    There’s activity on the radar front too. Balaji’s team will freeing up LCA Tejas LSP-2 shortly for ground integration of India’s indigenous Uttam AESA radar. The ADA has asked the DRDO’s LRDE lab to keep the Uttam’s interfaces as similar as possible to the current system. ‘It will be a challenge, moving from a mechanically scanned radar to the AESA without interface changes but that is the attempt, to save time and forestall any structural changes to the aircraft or radar,’ says Balaji. Interestingly, since the LCA doesn’t have an integrated liquid cooling system necessary for an AESA radar, the team has suggested that a small auxiliary compartment that becomes redundant after the mechanical-to-AESA switch could be utilised to house a liquid cooling system.

    A full scale model of the LCA Navy Mk.2 will be ready by early next year. Commodore Balaji and his team now hope their case will have a firm taker by then.

    http://www.livefistdefence.com/2017/02/revealed-the-indian-lca-navys-big-fight-back.html
     
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    DRDO AESA Radar displayed in the Aeroindia 2017

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    So finally dream come true . Indian air born aesa radar finally completed development and going to actual testing on final destination i.e Tejas . This mean all three mode i.e air to air , air to ground, and air to sea has been completed . Also miniaturisation of GaN module under development . So we can say soon a GaN aesa air born radar will be available from in house .
     
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    Uttam have a range of 150 km , with ~ 750 tr module with 4 module packed in on plate . This range is enough to launch a 100 km derby I , Astra mark 1 and 2 air to air missile . Also nose cone diameter is large enough to accommodate bigger radar than Uttam , so development of further GaN aesa see more tr module in number beacause of three reasons
    1. GaN require less energy , so smaller cooling device needed .
    2. Larger nose cone diameter of Tejas .
    3. Smaller size of GaN tr module .
     
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    I think all 3 mode haven't completed, but nevertheless it can be configured and tested on Tejas.
     
  17. Alok Arya

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    Ok , actually It is impression from media new from aero India but I think air to air and air to ground has been completed as air to air all ready fully tested in 2014 - 2015 , but air to ground causing problems . If air to ground has been completed , air to sea is more or less same / easy . Putting in Tejas itself means they want to test it in real situations with air cooling system on board , I thinks so . If you have specific information,please share it .
     
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    Cross post from BR - shared by JayS based on his Aero-India visit (Thank you Sir)

    Uttam AESA

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  19. Alok Arya

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    Now it is big news sir . Congratulations to drdo .
     
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    Atulya Radar is being developed to accurately cue fire of for the L-70 and ZU-23 anti-aircraft guns

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