India's Missiles Fly Up the Learning Curve

Pintu

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Koji, Current Brahmos Supersonic Cruise Missile in production , have a speed of 2.8 (Highest Speed) officially, and the Hypersonic Missile Brahmos II is lab tested (officially) to have a speed of Mach 5.26 and expected to be ready in only 2013-2014, in that sense you are right that no Hypersonic Brahmos is yet to be operational.

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Pintu you are forgetting shauriya.

Thanks LF, for reminding me, I was only talking about official data available for Brahmos , well Koji, for your information , India posses Shourya missile with a range of 600-700 km, and during its first test , it reached Mach 5, and even in low altitude Shourya can reach Mach 6.

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I don't give a damn about Pakistan's missile.. but sure they ve some bite in it.. But our BMD has passed three times out of 3.. i would like to use a real simulation rather than launch a missile on a calculated track and check if the AM hits it.. for more accuracy missile should be launched by a diffrerent team then, another team tracks it and hits. that would be real test.
The BMD is several years away from deployment.

And if Pak launches a NUKE missile, how are we to distinguish btw normal cruise and nuke one's [:(]
Ideally we are supposed to have far more ABMs and SAMs than Pak has BMs and CMs.

In the future India could make use of this Israel Seeks Missile-Sensing UAV - Defense News when it comes to China as China's stockpiles are massive.


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Thats the main problem of war with China or PAk, in the event of which when they employ their long range cruise missiles, we'll have no clue as to whether they are conventional or nuke loaded and hence any war could quickly turn nuclear. Its the same for them if we fire one of our brahmos in anger they have no idea whether its nuke or conventional load and thus they will retaliate thinking our missile is a nuke.
India follows a Unilateral NFU policy, Pak and China are not constrained by this. Brahmos being under MTCR doesn't field nuclear warhead.

The AAD and PAD have been tested and 2 more tests are required for them to be considered ready for induction an this will happen sometime end of this year and next year. They are effective and indeed hit targets very well.
AAD and PAD are under development.

But we do lack good defenses for cruise missiles and currently the only platform known to have the ability to counter terrain hugging cruise missiles is the SH.
Google : Mig-31, Akash, Manpads,Pechora,Tunguska,Stinger, AA Guns.

Ballistic missiles can also be detected as soon as they are launched by our Swordfish radars
Nope. google: Radar Horizon.

And if Pak launches a NUKE missile, how are we to distinguish btw normal cruise and nuke one's [:(]
It does'nt matter as the missile will b destroyed...[/QUOTE]

If a Salvo or Mirv missile is fired, the system should be able to pick out the nuclear tipped warhead from the decoys and take it out.


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right now the military itself says it has no effective counter measures against terrain hugging cruise missiles and as of now we are not as shielded as we can be, hence the Navy's interest in the Super Hornet.
Unsubstantiated BS.
Low flying Cruise missiles can be easily taken out by SAMs, Manpads, AA guns.
The only issue is that India is a huge country and putting up a credible is not the easiest of jobs. At present Pak has stockpiles of BMs but not a credible arsenal of CMs, hence the effort on to build BMD.

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India may not get all the Chinese missiles some may possibly get thru
IMO at least for the next decade or so, Chinese BMs will outnumber our ABMs. The only way we can tilt the balance in our favour by taking out all the nuclear tipped warheads from the decoys.

but the Indian hypersonic missiles will all get thru 100% against any Chinese defense
Yep, China doesn't have a credible BMD

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Also your claim about the Indian hypersonic missiles, do you know what the Chinese field for missile defense?
Nothing credible

The Bhramos version that India has is not hypersonic. That system is still under development and there are no operational units again
Brahmos is operational. Hypersonic Cruise missiles are still under development.

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S-300 versions, copies and modifications.
Nothing that has good record in dealing with ICBMs.
But then again not many ICBMs in the region (outside PRC)
Kuku, some S-300 versions have limited ABM capability against SRBM/IRBM

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look it up, it's all here in the forum, brahmos is just one of the hypersonic missiles. Currently it is 2 layers in the future it will be 3 layers so it will be even harder to penetrate.
India's BMD shield will field
1. Exoatmosphere missile ABM : PAD (1&2)
2. Endoatmosphere missile ABM : AAD (1&2)
3. Barak-LR SAM

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Pintu you are forgetting shauriya.
Shaurya is a low altitude (quasi)BM not a CM.

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guys HSTDV project, we are waiting for its test
It will be a TD, its technology though can be incorporated to make a Hypersonic CM. !
 

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