India's Future Main Battle Tank (FMBT)

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  1. Anshu Attri

    Anshu Attri Senior Member Senior Member

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    http://livefist.blogspot.com/2010/05/exclusive-indias-future-main-battle.html

    India's Future Main Battle Tank (FMBT)

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    The Indian Army is still juggling concepts of precisely what it wants from its Future Main Battle Tank (FMBT), but information shared with LiveFist provides a rare broad glimpse into work very much in progress as far as qualitative requirements for the future platform go. The Army's FMBT wish-list, in no particular order follows.

    The Army insists that stealth be built into the FMBT from the ground up -- including paints/materials to provide limited invisibility in IR/visible spectrum and for scrambling and avoidance of detection. The Indian Army wants the tank to have an Identification Friend or Foe (IFF) system "to obviate chances of own tanks firing at each other in battle", and a whole new reliable and secure mobile communication system capable of data transmission, audio and video conference. Protection in the form of soft-kill system requires IR detectors, laser warning, radar warning and devices to instantaneously integrate these signals and control a countermeasure suite. Such systems are threat specific so all would have to be carried on a vehicle to gain protection against more than one part of the EM threat spectrum.

    The new tank necessarily needs to espouse hybrid electric vehicle technology and incorporate digital vehicle electronics (vetronics) to provide intra-vehicle and inter-vehicle communication capability that will greatly improve sit awareness and enhance operational effectiveness.

    For mobility, in order to achieve ‘extraordinary’ acceleration, the Army observes that it is necessary to couple the conventional diesel engine of the proposed tank to a turbine. The ‘Hyberbar’ engine will be able to accelerate from zero to full power at 1,500 hp in 2.8 seconds, while a conventional diesel engine requires 8-12 seconds. The quest for more compact power pack has led to renewed interest in gas turbines, which needs to be explored, the Army feels.

    The Army wants an active suspension system with sensors, control units, and a hydraulic power source in combination, to automatically alter the suspension characteristics to more closely match the speed of the vehicle and the terrain profile, especially in Indian terrain conditions.

    The Army has always held the view that signature management was almost completely ignored in the development of the Arjun. The Army hopes that lesson has been learnt now. Current and expected future threat scenarios require signature management measures of a multi spectral type, and they require an extremely short reaction time. The Army says it requires signature management in design measures, basic camouflage, additional camouflage and temporary camouflage.

    Explosive Reactive Armour Now! The Army points out that the main battlefield threats against tanks are Anti Tank Guided Missile (ATGMs), unguided anti tank rockets and grenades; shaped charge High Explosive Anti Tank (HEAT) gun rounds; Kinetic Energy (KE) gun rounds; and top-attack weapons like intelligent sub-munitions, terminally guided artillery rounds, etc. There is a need for developing Explosive Reactive Armour (ERA). Given optimised designs, integrated ERA offers tanks highly effective protection against both the penetrators of Armoured Piercing Fin Stabilised Discarding Sabot (APFSDS) projectiles and the jets of shaped charge weapons, including those with tandem warheads.

    The Army says it wants a high-performance armour system on its FMBT with advanced materials incorporating the following qualities (a) Reduced penetration by most lethal weapons, (b) Elimination of parasitic mass leading to a weight reduction, (c) Excellent corrosion resistance, (d) Inherent thermal and acoustic insulation properties.

    The Army has stressed that the FMBT needs Infra Red (IR) detectors, target identification systems, laser warning systems, radar warning receivers and devices to coordinate their signal and instantaneously control a countermeasures suite. These countermeasures fall into two categories: soft-kill system and hard-kill system. The soft kill sensors must discriminate true and false targets and they must discriminate between missiles or other rounds that threaten the vehicle being protected and those that will miss or are aimed at other targets.

    The Army wants an Automatic Protection Systems (APS) on the FMBT. The radar should determine threat levels adequately, and the self-defence rockets should not cause high levels of collateral damage, particularly to accompanying dismounted infantry.

    Of course, weapons. Conventional tube weapons are the product of a mature technology, and have now reached a high level of performance. However, on account of the gas-dynamic processes of thermally transformed powder, the muzzle velocity of projectiles is theoretically limited to approximately 2,300 m/s. Contemporary tank guns still offer a considerable growth potential, and electronic guns will be able to exceed this and become an attractive proposition. Tank-fired missiles, which carry shaped-charge warheads, were susceptible to various countermeasures, especially reactive armour. The Army says it is reasonable to expect development of high velocity KE missiles with heavy-metal, long-rod penetrators to defeat current and future tanks both within and beyond line of sight. Such extended-range missiles would enable armoured vehicles to engage targets beyond the direct fire zone. The high/medium-energy level (100 kJ) vehicle-mounted laser is expected to be a lethality option against rockets, air vehicles, light ground vehicles, antennas of armoured vehicles and electro-optical sensors. Hard-kill system to provide full-spectrum defence against top attack weapons, ATGMs, guided missiles and gun-launched KE and HEAT rounds.

    Fire Control System (FCS): Ground sensors, non-line-of-sight launch system and the network capability will enhance soldiers’ understanding of their situation in dynamic battlefield conditions by promoting a common perspective of enemy and friendly locations on digital maps and provide timely actionable intelligence.

    Very importantly, the Army has stressed that there is a need to manufacture modern simulators using lasers, micro-processors and magnetic tapes, thereby creating near actual combat conditions during training. Development of driving, gunnery and tactical simulators.
     
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  3. BunBunCake

    BunBunCake Regular Member

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    This isn't coming in the near future. DRDO still wants IA to buy these Arjuns and they don't seem to be wanting to develop any other things before IA buys these =)

    I should start a company when I grow up parallel to DRDO in defense Industry, and create more competition :D
    These requests for (FMBT) and MCA are useless, because our Armed forces aren't going to get anything out of it, other than just dreams and paper waste for proposals to DRDO.
     
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    nitesh Mob Control Manager Stars and Ambassadors

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    This is another ploy to kill arjun that's it. Forget about home grown weapon systems DGMF don't want it as simple as that. Why to waste resources in to such programs. Better concentrate on naval systems and air force systems let DGMF always buy from others they simply don't understand the concept of evolution
     
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    plugwater Elite Member Elite Member

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    what the hell! Are we going for any kinda race?
    This FMBT is not Arjun MK-II rite?
     
  6. Armand2REP

    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    What a wish list, and they expect DRDO to come up with all this in the near future? Why don't you add an EM railgun while you are it. Suprised active protection isn't a requirement.
     
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    nitesh Mob Control Manager Stars and Ambassadors

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    this wish list is looks like some fan boy's imagination of discovery channel furure weapons, armand I think ERA is there

     
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    nope this is for urban environments just imagine some terrorist is using Ferrari and running around and as good people we will be following the traffic signals so super quick acceleration needed simple =xy to catch the baddy ten ten teden
     
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    hahaha..
    What is the projected deadline for this project? Or this is some fantasy article from Shiv Aroor?
     
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    nitesh Mob Control Manager Stars and Ambassadors

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    I don't see the time line in the news but I am sure they will come up with some thing like 2020- 2025 and then mid way change the requirement and say oh threat perception has changed then the wild goose chase will start again for FFMBT by the time that will come they will be ready with FFFMBT mean while they will keep buying the T 90 or some T XX and keep upgrading it the saga will continue
     
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    Agantrope Senior Member Senior Member

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    Oh. my Beauty. Even Lord Vishwa Karma would take a lot of time to design such an device/object. This is really absurd. All army needs the best equipment that are available. But this is too much. I hope the DRDO have not said yes the final document. May be as usual some Livefist Masala, may be.
     
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    yes agan I seriously hope this don't get drafted
     
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    Agantrope Senior Member Senior Member

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    Yeah Nitesh, typical masala for his blog reader. Feel free, amry is not nuts to give this configuration to the DRDO and DRDO are not that genius to do this
     
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    The Dumbest thing i ever heard a ferrari enzo itself will take 2-3 sec to reach 60kmph, & they expect a 50 ton tank to do it in 2.8 sec

    but it is possible if we use the arc reactor of tony stark in Iron man=xD

    ya i am holding my breath for this one=omg=

    If by the act of god DRDO ever comes out with a prototype, earth will be obliralated by an alien race and most of the human species will be extinct

    This may be possible if we can master the jedi mind control to guide the missle to its target=heheh
     
  15. pavanvenkatesh

    pavanvenkatesh Regular Member

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    Actually Active protection is specified along with ERA
     
  16. Raj Malhotra

    Raj Malhotra Regular Member

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    The article details absurd requirements
     
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    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    I never said anything about ERA. There is no mention of "active protection."
     
  18. Daredevil

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    Actually there is a mention of it, instead of Active he used Automatic.

    Anyways, many of the requirements are not possible and too fanboyish to include all of them in FMBT. But APS, better armour protection, battlefield awareness are must in a FMBT.
     
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    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    What a n00b, doesn't even know the correct terminology.
     
  20. sayareakd

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    they forget to add that they want tank which can fly, hover and fire lasers projectile............ as FMBT.
     
  21. BunBunCake

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    This article is obviously bullshitted by this blogger. No need to waste time guys reading this guys.
     

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