India's Air Defense System and its Capabilities

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  1. NeXoft007

    NeXoft007 Regular Member

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    Amogha-1 is ATGM, not MANPADS.
     
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    India should get some Pantsir-S2 atleast good for Drones..!!!

    Combat Successes of Russian Pantsir-S2 in Syria!!!

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  4. Kunal Biswas

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    The service rate of Tungushka M1 is not very impressive, Its does not not worth to have this if it does not work where it must ..

     
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    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    Interesting modification, ZU-23-2 is mounted on TARTA 8X8, Before this the system was mounted on 4X4 version but changed quickly as the 4x4 could not keep up with mech formations ..
     
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    Tungaska M1 was good for Tank Formations, but i feel Pantsir-S2 would give cover on high value targets on move on roads, like S-300/400 , Akash, Agni series move....
     
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    wow, never knew about it.... just add a radar it would almost never be beatable or equal to Panstir SAM bhai...
     
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    Yes we need "DESI" Pantsir-S2 because tungaska had no radar and automated targeted and becomes difficult when targeting highly maneuverable like attack helicopters.
    We can use Pantsir for point defense for protecting fuel and ammunition dumps.
     
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    you are correct, but that would take another 10 years, still Indian Army will not accept it into service... why waste of time.........
    still what Heavy Machine gun do we have?
     
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    India possesses extremely potent and tested anti aircraft weaponry as well as air defense & early warning systems. India’s air defense network has two principal components- the Air Defense Ground Environment System(ADGES) and the Base Air Defense Zones(BADZ). The ADGES network provides for wide area radar coverage and permits the detection and interception of most aerial incursions into Indian airspace. The BADZ system, however, is far more concentrated with radars, interceptors, SAMs and AAA units working in conjunction to provide an intense and highly effective defensive barrier to attacks on vital targets.

    Most Indian bases and vital targets are protected by full squadron of S-125 Pechora-1b SAMs and some critical spots are protected by additional deployments of OSA-AKM mobile SAMs.
     
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    Can you explain how can India find out about the intrusion if Pakistan/Saudi flies a military aircraft in the guise if civilian aircraft across India pretending to reach Bangladesh? In the process, they can do aerial reconnaissance of Indian sites too
     
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    Most of this are junked by other countries and we still using them...And you certified as best
     
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    The radars are upgraded ones and are potent SAMs even today.
     
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    I don't know when we will see such advanced Electronic Warfare systems in our possession to bring down drone and missile attacks ...:facepalm:

    Krasukha EW System
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    If i have to put my trust in one AD system which is foreign and license produce in mass is L70 and its flycatcher radar, Tunguska can`t even hit slow speed drones at least those serving in India ..

    Its time Army look into Indian system and DRDO should develop equipment which are already in service, For example radar guided ZU-23-2 ( Fully automated except the reloading ) clones or same for L70 which are vehicle mounted ..
     
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    @Kunal Biswas What is the present stage of our air defense system compared to our rivals? Rate from 1 to 10 on scale.
    What is the solution for air defense on your perspective?
     
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    How about rheinmetall defence's skysheild?
     
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    Who is the rival? Pakistan, China, USA or Bangladesh? Specify please
     
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    First thing did i asked you the question?
    I think you forgot to add NATO to the list.
     
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    Will these systems be able to fire on the move if mounted? Also, if the requirement is to support Armoured columns, the AD will have to armoured and tracked as well. So which chassis would be the best fit for something like that? I think BMP chassis would work.

    A key difference in this system would be that the radar would be on a different vehicle and it will have to pass on the information to all vehicle-mounted L70 or ZU-23-2 which would only rely on Electro-Optical FCS. This makes the entire system vulnerable, especially because a single radar is catering to 4 different gun carrier platforms.
    To overcome that, I was wondering if it is possible to mount 4 L70 and a Flycatcher or Atulya radar on a single armoured chassis, but I am not sure if the radar would be compact enough to fit. Maybe they can make a smaller radar for this?

    I imagine KALI project is a better tech for the same job. Its more advanced but is also more than a decade away from field deployment. So are all DEW weapons.
    An interesting read:
    How Good Is Russian Electronic Warfare?
    Ignore the humble title and give it a read.

    Also, if someone could tell me if NAVIC is also vulnerable to exploitation of the "bearing frequency" concept like the GPS as the article asserts here:-
     
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