Indians dont value life: Myth or fact?

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Indians dont value life

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  1. Yusuf

    Yusuf GUARDIAN Administrator

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    The line is pretty often said about Indians, that we dont value life. That life is cheap and this is told more so we suffer a terror attack.

    Is this the case with the common man? Does he think his or his fellow beings life is cheap and does not value it? Why do we attribute this "Indians have no value for life" line when its usually used in reference to the political apathy when it comes to terror or may be police apathy when it comes to say an accident related case.

    When one of our loved ones leaves this world, elaborate "send off" is given. The "antim sanskar" of Hindus, or the post death ceremony of the muslims, all are elaborate while prayers are chanted or said for the departed soul. When we respect the dead so much, how can we not respect those alive?

    We often see that when we step on each others toes, we immediately make a hand gesture to kiss, a way to apologize and may be repent doing that. So if this is how we treat fellow humans, how can we be called as people who dont value human lives?

    What do you guys think? Poll as well on this thread.
     
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  3. johnee

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    Everyone, even animals, value life. So, to say that Indians dont value life is nonsensical BS of highest kind. But the fact of the matter, Indians dont have much choice. Like herbivores when get hunted, what do they do? They try to survive, try to save their kith and kin, mourn for the loses, but then shrug their shoulders and live with it. They dont have a choice. Indians' fate has become very similar. Pakis blast a bomb in a crowded market, people including women and children die, many are maimed. People gather themselves, help each other, mourn the loses, curse the stupid soft Govt. But the next day, they have to shrug the shoulders and live with it. What can they do?
     
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    Its a basic fact that any product that is available in abundance also becomes cheap. Since India does have people in huge numbers the whole concept of life becomes cheap. Its not to say that an individual doesn't value his life or his loved one's life, but the society doesn't value the life of any common man.

    For ex: If 70 people died in some train or bus crash in Europe, it would be a very big news, the entire country would mourn the tragedy and they would even commemorate the anniversary of the crash for a few years. But if the same thing happened in India, it may top the news for a few hours, by next day the people would have moved on to other things and in an year most people would not even remember it, except for the victims' family.
     
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    Societies are made up of individuals. Its the individual reactions that become social reactions. A large society has lesser number of affected individuals who dont directly feel the pain and therefore a large society may appear to care less. But that is just numbers and stats. The truth is the events affect individuals. And at individual level, the pain is there.

    Also, some societies have the luxury to mourn. Others dont. Indian society for long did not have this luxury. Many sections of indian society still do not have the luxury to mourn. They have to live, and for that, they have to work. They dont have time and energy to mourn, or protest.
     
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    there is a lot of chalta hai attitude prevalent in india.

    take the example of a helmet for a bike rider and co-rider, in cities where there is a chalan on not wearing the helmet, we will find most wearing, but in places where it is not, you will hardly ever find people wear one. take jaipur, there the law is for the rider to wear and not for the co-rider, and that is precisely what happens, co-rider will hardly ever be wearing, and he will argue as to why he should when there is no chalan for it.

    similarly, left hand over taking, i had a colleague say in delhi over taking is allowed both ways, think how rediculous the argument is but people will argue it as right, people practically dont know which one is the driving lane or the over taking lane and they will be most of the time be driving on the over taking lane, eventually people will be over taking from the left. red light jumping, or no use of the seat belts and so on and so forth. in the process not just putting their own lives in risk but those of others as well.

    isnt there this ad. done by some tyre company which says, "roads are full of idiots".

    when it comes to bomb blasts, its no big deal till the time the vote patterns are not getting effected for the worse or the opposition is not making use of the sympathy wave, a few getting killed in a bomb blast would possibly be no big deal for people in power, we are just too many on the streets.

    someone dies overseas and if you have to move the body from the airport, you cant do it without paying bribe, same with a death certificate.

    is life really valued in india? seems unlikely, first of all we ourselves dont, secondly till the time you are not well connected, no one cares for you.
     
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  7. S.A.T.A

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    Its a myth that societies value life or mourn death,the anthropological truth is that societies world over value the living,so long as the living members sufficiently recompense for the lost,loss of the life is less grieved.Pain due to loss is a very subjective experience,it is not shared by a society as whole or even by members who are not closely related,however closely knit,which represents a personal expression of ruptured emotions, that we endow certian relationships with.Ultimately our emotional relationships are a universe of cloistered social ties,attachments which serve to mitigate our perennial fear of loneliness.

    The greatest of human fear is loneliness,death is feared not because it represents the end of existence,but rather a new state of existence,but a lonely one bereft of emotional coziness that our previous social existence offered.Death of individuals who are part of this system of interlinked emotion bonds,represents to us step towards a time when we will be enveloped by loneliness.Hence the personal expression of pain,this does not mean we value other lives for their own sake.Infact we can never invest any such universally acceptable value to any life.

    P.S:The demographic composition of constituents of any society play no significant role in how societies react to loss of individuals.European societies willingly tolerated the mass killing if its minuscule social groups over centuries,not least during the two world wars and the Holocaust.Societies very rightly invest in improving the chances of prolonging the scope of living,with better social organization(*read better resource distribution and governance),better health care,etc.The motivation is self preservation.
     
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    I dont think any Asian nation or a nation which is not rich values life, let alone India.

    The only two nations that I think value their citizen's life is US and Israel.
     
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    Indians value life as in their own life not others! :D

    I dont think any nation values human life, all nations value their citizens where the politican has to act as if he is protecting their lives, that act some times become real as long as you have the resources to play that game. If some nation really valued life then they wont stand for the death and hunger of any human in the planet not just their citizens.
     
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