Indian students find new families in Pakistan

Discussion in 'Pakistan' started by ajtr, May 20, 2012.

  1. ajtr

    ajtr Veteran Member Veteran Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2009
    Messages:
    12,038
    Likes Received:
    715
    Indian students find new families in Pakistan

    [​IMG]

    1. Sachi Bhutani
    2. Karan Raghav
    3. Tanima Narang
    4. Bhavya Mahajan
    Indian students share views about their recent visit to Pakistan as part of the Rotary-Aman ki Asha exchange programme

    Visiting Pakistan was a very enriching and learning experience for me. The visit really helped me to form an extremely positive image of the country and helped me realise how similar the two countries are and that should absolutely live in harmony like they deserve to. Prejudices really have no place in today's world.

    The people I met were incredibly warm and welcoming and I'm really glad that I was able to visit Pakistan, a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity that I thoroughly enjoyed. It was a perfect experience and I will carry the sweet memories with me forever. It was really hard to say goodbye after such a wonderful experience. Loved it.

    I have been extremely fortunate to visit one of the most beautiful and hospitable countries of the world. These were the most fascinating days of my life. Every single person that I met was very optimistic about India and Indians. I am indebted to my Pakistani friends for telling me the real story of Pakistan.

    I have realised how similar our neighbours are to us. Honestly speaking I felt more at home than I may find myself in my own country. I can never forget how loving my hosts were to me; not just the affluent ones but also the ordinary people on the streets. Karachi has been a great city; clean, spacious and lively.

    Thank you Pakistan, and thank you Rotary for gifting me this lifetime opportunity.

    I said on my first day in Pakistan, I am an ambassador of love and peace from India. I came here to understand why the differences between the two countries existed even though people from both sides have wanted to establish peace for the last 60 years or so. After meeting many people, attending many meetings, we came to know a lot about this country that we didn't know before.

    And the people were so amazingly sweet; we were always welcomed very warmly. They didn't let me feel uncomfortable at all. I stayed with four different host families, and found new family with each of them. They treated me just like their own daughter. I found many similarities between the two countries. The people, the history, the language, the food, the homes and many other things were common. I made many friends here, and as far as we're concerned, there are no borders or barriers for us.

    I've gained a great experience from this trip. I am now back in India and am trying to change any perspectives of people that don't match the truth about Pakistan and am urging them too to visit this country with proof of my first-hand experience. It was one of my best trips ever, and the friends I've made will remain for life.

    Karachi did feel a little different from New Delhi, because of less traffic, the way people dress and the beach. People whom I was a little scared to meet are now a part of my life and I consider them as a part of my family. My parents were a little afraid to send me to Pakistan because of the security issues but I guess no parent needs to worry now as I am back in Delhi without even a scratch on my body. People will continue to say whatever they want to without experiencing it for themselves.

    According to me every one should drop whatever misconceptions they have and draw their own picture, no matter what others say or think. People back in Karachi treated us like family and never even gave us a minute to think that we didn't belong to Pakistan.

    Physically, I am back in New Delhi but my mind is still in Karachi. I wish I could have stay for a little longer. But never mind, I'll be back soon, not to attend a million Rotary meetings but to meet and stay with the family I have there. Loved Karachi and its people.
     
  2.  
  3. Oracle

    Oracle New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2010
    Messages:
    8,120
    Likes Received:
    1,541
    Location:
    Bangalore, India
    Why did you kids not stay back? Why back to India?
     
  4. Dovah

    Dovah Untermensch Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 23, 2011
    Messages:
    4,754
    Likes Received:
    3,273
    Location:
    Modindia
    :lol:

    I didn't bother to read the article before. Now that I've read it, I find it nauseating.

    Yes and this little brat has experienced everything in this little facade of a trip of hers.

    I think I'm gonna hurl.
     
  5. KS

    KS Bye bye DFI Veteran Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2010
    Messages:
    8,008
    Likes Received:
    5,718
    Location:
    irrelevant
    India sends students as part of Aman ki [Tam]asha and Pakistan sends Akjmal Kasabs on its part..:lol:
     
    Kunal Biswas and venkat like this.
  6. Tronic

    Tronic Stars and Ambassadors Stars and Ambassadors

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2009
    Messages:
    1,915
    Likes Received:
    1,275
    My cousins have visited Pakistan several times, my buddies in India have all visited Pakistan (Lawrence school, Sanawar routinely organizes trips to Lawrence College in Murree, Pakistan, and Lawrence College students routinely visit Sanawar).

    It is without doubt that Pakistani Punjabis are very hospitable people, and it is the natural Punjabi spirit and "openness" which gets both sides embracing each other in these people-to-people visits. This bonhomie is on a personal human level and cannot be compared on a politico-societal level, where there is much bitterness and a sense of victimization which has been drilled into the brains of all Pakistanis.

    This is not to say that India does not have its share of the same; with many folks on this side blaming Pakistanis for almost the exact same reasons they blame us (such as differing narratives on who started the bloodshed during partition); but the difference between us and them is that the hate on our side is not institutionalized, where else on the Pakistani side, that hate is spread by schools, government and is a strong part of their national character.
     
  7. Adux

    Adux Senior Member Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2009
    Messages:
    4,020
    Likes Received:
    1,695
    As a Rotarian, I am ashamed.
     
  8. Galaxy

    Galaxy Elite Member Elite Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2011
    Messages:
    7,093
    Likes Received:
    3,895
    Location:
    Delhi
    As i said in different thread,

    There should be a case of treason on all people who support and propagate "Aman ki Asha". The one who believes in such thing are free to go to Land of Shit but don't expect others to support you.

    It's strange how come one believe in such possibility ? Few people are suffering from some mental disorder!
     
  9. SADAKHUSH

    SADAKHUSH Senior Member Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2010
    Messages:
    1,802
    Likes Received:
    758
    Location:
    Winterland
    After reading the article, I am still trying to figure out the main objective of yours. Is it to charm rest of the Indians by making these students as a mouthpiece of yours? We, who know the real face of Pakistanis have a different opinion about your country as you might have read in this forum in different posts. I have traveled around the world and before that have lived in over twelve states of my motherland called "BHARATVARSH" and found people equally hospitable as well. When ever, I meet people from different parts of the world in Canada they are very helpful and excellent hosts as well. Does it mean the institutions of a nation (Pakistan ) have the same view about India? If that was the case why have they launched attack on our soil several times and they have violated eight times the ceasefire between two nations.

    I would ask you AJTR to take the same students in to Liyari area of Karachi and those terrorist training camps after which they can do another write up on other side of your nation. Let me tell you this attempt of your is not going to change the mind of majority of Indians towards Pakistan untill and unless your Army and ISI hand over all the criminals wanted by our authorities and till we push back enemy forces from our land, I am talking about illegally occupied Kashmir.

    Our difference of opinion is between the Governments and it percolates downwards into the minds of people of the respective nations.
    As long as your Government and private institutions keep injecting the poison of hatred based on religion till than no goodwill can be built regardless of the propaganda of this article. I hope you get my message.
     
    parijataka, venkat and LETHALFORCE like this.
  10. mayfair

    mayfair Elite Member Elite Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2010
    Messages:
    2,584
    Likes Received:
    1,760
    Location:
    India
    It is good that these folks had a nice time and were treated to delightful doses of Papp-Jhappi. However, I did note that in their mush filled bleeding heart romantic travelogue, there was no mention of what type of discussions they had in Pakistan. Did they discuss contemporary issues with their hosts?

    These wer a bunch of wet between the years, urban Delhiites who went on an all expenses paid trip to the Pakhanaland. By what stretch of imgination they consider themselves "Ambassadors of peace from India"
     
    pmaitra likes this.
  11. pmaitra

    pmaitra Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2009
    Messages:
    31,640
    Likes Received:
    17,124
    Location:
    EST, USA
    We should always be hopeful of peace, but such news articles look like photo-ops and nothing more.

    How is the Pakistani hospitality extended to these 4 self styled peace-ambassadors from India anyway dilute what Pakistan has done to India in the last several decades?

    Very romantic indeed, AJTR.
     
  12. ajtr

    ajtr Veteran Member Veteran Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2009
    Messages:
    12,038
    Likes Received:
    715
    If you think India has genuine grievances with pak on terrorism, asymmetric Guerrilla warfare etc then pakistani too have genuine grievances with india over the same coz it was india who first deployed its irregular mukti bahini against pakistan.
     
  13. pmaitra

    pmaitra Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2009
    Messages:
    31,640
    Likes Received:
    17,124
    Location:
    EST, USA
    Mukti-Bahini was a job well done. Poonchi and Pathan tribesmen into J&K in 1948 was a cowardly act, and precedes Mukti-Bahini.

    Don't ask me why. There was a genocide in East Pakistan.

    That is not a genuine grievance. Sorry.
     
  14. ajtr

    ajtr Veteran Member Veteran Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2009
    Messages:
    12,038
    Likes Received:
    715
    Even tribesmen did valiant job in freeing up the 1/3rd of kashmir.atleast they dont live in fear of being killed by army in J&K.

    Btw there is pogrom going on in J&K and other parts of india against minorities even today.
     
  15. pmaitra

    pmaitra Moderator Moderator

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2009
    Messages:
    31,640
    Likes Received:
    17,124
    Location:
    EST, USA
    So that confirms Pakistani hospitality is? They don't live in fear, because they are usually killed by Indian SF. Fear or no fear, they won't live long anyway.

    No. The pogrom that is going on is in SWAT, FATA, and practically the whole of Pakistan.
     
    Tronic likes this.
  16. Bangalorean

    Bangalorean Stars and Ambassadors Stars and Ambassadors

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2010
    Messages:
    6,207
    Likes Received:
    6,497
    Only a Paki scum can use words like Pogrom so lightly. "Pogrom against minorities" indeed. What a ---- - how many people are being killed in this "pogrom" every year in India? What an ---.

    The scoundrel pukes were the ones who started the tradition of asymmetric warfare in 1948, and then in 1965. And they are still doing the same. I hope they all drown in their own cesspool of crap.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: May 20, 2012
    The Messiah likes this.
  17. Tronic

    Tronic Stars and Ambassadors Stars and Ambassadors

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2009
    Messages:
    1,915
    Likes Received:
    1,275
    The tribesmen were motivated by the loot. Ask the Lahoris how well these tribemen did in the 1965 war!

    Last I heard, these "valiant" tribesmen came running to Lahore on hearing that a "Jihad" against Indian forces had been declared, but as soon as they heard that this "Jihad" would include getting strafed by IAF aircraft, they refused to go towards India, and went on a looting spree in Lahore instead. :D

    That's a loaded word, but even if there is, how are Pakistanis in any position to lecture Indians when Pakistan routinely carries out pogroms against minorities in its country?
     
    Last edited: May 20, 2012
    Kunal Biswas, The Messiah and pmaitra like this.
  18. Adux

    Adux Senior Member Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2009
    Messages:
    4,020
    Likes Received:
    1,695
    They are kids...also this is not pakistan specific thing..rotaria.s send their kids on exchange visits to many country..as we speak one of fri3nss daughter is in the states...wherever rotary clubs are there..they do this..there are family exchanges. There are gse programs for non rotarians....this is something they do regularly and hundreds of kids go and come every year...the club or district that must have send these kids made thwm into a media circus..which earns you points and goodwill..also rotarians are mostly international brotherhood type people everywhere..you can expect them to be the liberal of liberal people in pakistan...they have been hounded by normal pakistani for trying to save their children through polio vaccinations..which is the biggest program for rotary..rotary was even bigger than the indian government for giving polio drops on india... This is just media blitz....

    Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk 2
     
  19. SADAKHUSH

    SADAKHUSH Senior Member Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2010
    Messages:
    1,802
    Likes Received:
    758
    Location:
    Winterland
    Instead of carrying on with your rants and accusations based on the propaganda by your so called leaders of the nation who cannot even exercise complete control over their own citizens, I would like to see the proof in black and white, if you do not have that it, I would ask you to spend your precious time with in your own community to bring about peace between various fighting factions.

    If your nation's citizenry is willing to walk the talk than let us work towards it by withdrawing your forces from occupied part of Indian Kashmir and Gilgit Baltistan. Your citizens have to learn to accept one fact that Pakistan has never, does not and will not ever represent the Muslims of the world. Once you come to terms with what I have stated your nations founders dream will be realised otherwise your future generation will go through the same challenges that are being experienced by the Pakistani's of today. Just keep your compassion for Muslims in India with in your own borders. We are capable of feeding, educating and protecting their rights ourselves. From time to time you should check the opinion of International community towards your nation and than speak. Leave Afghanistan alone, once they rebuild their armed forces you will have two enemies on both sides of the border just the way it is being imposed on India by both of you (I am talking about your country and China). Do you see how true the old sayings are "What goes around comes around".

    Wish you best of luck to your nation and her citizens.
     

Share This Page