Indian soldiers who died to free Haifa remembered in Israel

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  1. parijataka

    parijataka Senior Member Senior Member

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    Indian soldiers lauded in Israeli textbooks for freeing city

     
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    Well that''s a good and proud news.:thumb::namaste::thumb:


    Thanks to Israel for recognising and thanks to GOI to forget the brave:sad::sad::sad:
     
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    Proud of Indian Army

    Thank You Israel
     
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    Indian soldiers whupped! those 'Turds' Asses allover the place, Totally Awesome! :kickass:
     
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    the maratha light infantry regiment fought in iraq against the turks during world war one . but nobody in iraq will remember them :sad:
     
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    Nice to know that foreigners remember our dead. Few in India think about them and even among those who think, some of them refuse to honour their bravery as they fought under the colonizer! End of the day, our brave never get what they deserve.

    We still have our British built war memorials. Thank goodness... they ate up Indians for breakfast and dinner, but they atleast built war memorials to those who served them their bravery and life.
     
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    roma NRI in Europe Senior Member

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    we are very honoured and humbled to have Israel unilaterally and without any prompting from anyone , remembering our contribution - in contrast, the NATO on poppy day when they remember their war dead , my question is do they give sufficient place to our jawans who died in WW2 ?
     
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    trackwhack Tihar Jail Banned

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    They all fought for the British. How do they become our jawans?

    Our jawans were the few who fought these monkeys in British uniform. Its outright disrespectful that today we sit and sing praises of Indian soldiers in British uniform as some kind of heroes. There is a thread every third day. Bhagat Singh and Chandrasekhar Azad are probably turning in their graves.

    Here, remember. The ones that put the noose around their heads were also Indian soldiers

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    You are referring to a time when our leaders didn't have the concept of India as a Nation. You are talking about times when being a soldier was just a profession.


    P.S: BTW trackwhack, you are one of those I was referring to in post #7, just in case you haven't noticed! :p
     
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    trackwhack Tihar Jail Banned

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    The first revolt against the British was in 1857. From that day on no Indian should have served for the British. Dont dismiss it as just a job. Their job was to butcher Indians who resisted the British.

    These men were the weakest and most selfish Indians that lived during those times. For fear of their own survival, they stooped to a level where they killed their own people at their enemies behest.

    I dont know what I would have done if I were in their place but I'd like to think that I'd have enough courage to take out a couple of white trash before being shot myself.
     
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    At around the same time that these soldiers died for the British in Mesopotamia and Western Europe, revolutionary organizations like the Anushilan Samiti and Hindustan Socialist Republican Army were actively opposing British rule. These organizations, and others, already had a clear concept of "India" as a nation and also viewed those Indians who cooperated with the British as "traitors". Indian nationalism was still quite young, and it didn't become a mass movement until Gandhi turned it into one, but the ideology was definitely there even in the early 1900s.

    Many of the Indian soldiers who fought under British did so under some sort of financial or social compulsion. They needed a stable livelihood for themselves and their families and the British Raj was able to provide them one. I do not condemn these soldiers unduly, but I feel a great sadness that their valour and efforts were wasted fighting the white man's wars, in which the Indian soldiers had no stake or interest whatsoever.
     
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    I think Congress allowed Indian soldiers to take part in the War effort based on British assurances of Independence soon after. After WW I, British made several Commissions, Round Table Conferences and other ploys to delay the inevitable. Regardless, these were Indians who died fighting some one else's war, most would hv been poor villagers. So whatever, RIP brave Indian men.
     
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    Some thought they were obligated because they "ate the King's salt."

    Loyal India: Part 2 of 3 by Elizabeth Weigler :: www.SikhFoundation.org
     
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    i agree with one of the poster above who correctly stated that our leadership at that time hadnt yet formed a country out of india

    you INCORRECTLY stated that they fought in british uniform - that is not true and is a grave error

    but really what is the alternative Sir ?

    would you prefer that the jawans who gave their lives in british-india uniform ( not british uniform tsk tsk ) be forgotten ?

    would you prefer that they died in vain ?

    that their sacrifice be valued as nothing ?

    you call them monkeys , do you ?
    these were ordinary foot-soldiers who may not have known all the political brainstorming we are doing with hindsight and you prefer to deny them and their families the dignity of their sacrifice because they were "politically incorrect" ?

    sorry, - im not into the politicization of their sacrifice ..... im into treating it as a valuable human sacrifice , every single one of them including those you mentioned bhagat .singh and many others , too many to mention here - they ALL , yes every single one of them - they rightly deserve the dignity and honour of their sacrifice .
     
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    Huh.. That means that the soldiers were probably Muslim - quite ironic I must say!
     
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    trackwhack Tihar Jail Banned

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    I dont expect anyone to get this, so ok.
     
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    roma NRI in Europe Senior Member

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    Sir - i believe you realise nothing personal there ..., it was just my "2 cents worth" ... thanks
     
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    roma NRI in Europe Senior Member

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    well there we are , that's why i suggested ( it was only a suggestion - perhaps a bit strongly worded - i hope not though ) that we cant blame our men for the battles they were asked , forced ? to fight - they were just trying to feed their families, in a cruel world ( more so in those days )

    cant say the same for those who were employed in india to shoot their own people - that would be different - that part i might agree more with member "trackwhack"

    but this thread is not about that
     
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    Not to mention the Jalliawalabagh killings!

    Source: wikipedia
     

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