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One survivor of Yemenia Airways crash found: Report- ET Cetera-News By Industry-News-The Economic Times

One survivor of Yemenia Airways crash found: Report
30 Jun 2009, 1545 hrs IST, IANS

PARIS: Searchers have found a survivor of early Tuesday's crash of a Yemenia Airways flight with 153 people on board, French i-tele reported, citing information from the airline.

In addition, three bodies are reported to have been recovered from the waters some 10 kilometres off the coast of the Comoros Islands.

The Airbus A310 aircraft was en route from Yemen to Moroni, the capital of the Comoros Islands, when flight controllers lost contact with the plane at 1.51 a.m. (2351 GMT Monday).
 

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Yemen says crashed plane inspected in May | Reuters

Yemen says crashed plane inspected in May

Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:12am EDT

DUBAI (Reuters) - Yemen's transport minister said the Yemenia aircraft that crashed off the Comoros Tuesday underwent a thorough inspection in May under Airbus supervision.

"It was a comprehensive inspection carried out in Yemen ... with experts from Airbus," Khaled Ibrahim al-Wazeer told Reuters by telephone from the Yemeni capital Sanaa. "It was in line with international standards."

A 5-year-old was the only passenger rescued so far from the crash of the Airbus 310-300, which was carrying 153 people in a flight from Sanaa to Moroni, the capital of the Comoros.

Yemen's focus was on finding more survivors, the minister said, adding the search for the black box had not yet been launched.

(Reporting by Inal Ersan)
 

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Five-year-old child survives Comoros crash | Reuters

Five-year-old child survives Comoros crash

Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:17am EDT

MORONI (Reuters) - A five-year-old child was plucked alive from the sea off the Indian Ocean archipelago of Comoros after an Airbus A310-300 crashed with 153 people on board on Tuesday, officials said.

"A doctor from the military hospital aboard one of the rescue boats called the Mitsamiouli hospital to tell them a child had been rescued alive," Halidi Ahmed Abdou, a doctor at a medical center opened for survivors, told Reuters.

Hadji Madi Ali, director of the international airport in Moroni, told national radio the child was five years old. He said five bodies had also been found.

(Reporting by Ahmed Ali Amir; Editing by David Clarke and Louise Ireland)
 

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Yemenia Airways was almost blacklisted in Europe - Europe - World - The Times of India

Yemenia Airways was almost blacklisted in Europe
30 Jun 2009, 1915 hrs IST, AFP

BRUSSELS: The European Commission was investigating safety standards at Yemenia Airways last year and almost put the company on its blacklist of
unsafe airlines then, according to an EU legal document.

The document said that unspecified "deficiencies" had been noted during inspections on the company's aircraft — one of which crashed Tuesday with 153 people aboard off the Comoros — in France, Germany and Italy.

It showed that the commission had insisted that Yemenia provide an "action plan" to both it and the 27 EU member states so that they could assess whether the company had addressed safety concerns.

"The commission considers that the corrective actions submitted by Yemenia must be fully implemented and closely monitored," said the text, a legal document from July 24, 2008 updating the bloc's air transport blacklist.

When asked about what had happened over the last year, a commission transport spokesman said Tuesday that the company had complied with its obligations, without elaborating.

The document also showed that Airbus and Yemenia had sealed a contract under which the plane manufacturer would train the company's pilots and engineers.

Under the deal, Airbus was to monitor maintenance and engineering work as well as the operations of Yemenia's aircraft.

The ill-fated Yemenia flight left Paris airport Monday. An Airbus A330-200 aircraft took off for the Yemeni capital Sanaa via Marseille.

In Yemen, the passengers changed to an Airbus A310 and departed for the Comoros via Djibouti, but the twin engine aircraft crashed into rough waters in the Indian Ocean off the Comoros islands.

France's transport minister said that French inspectors had noted numerous faults on the jet that crashed, when it was last in the country in 2007.
 

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EU halted Yemenia maintenance of European jets in Feb | Markets | Markets News | Reuters

EU halted Yemenia maintenance of European jets in Feb

Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:05am EDT

PARIS, June 30 (Reuters) - The European Union suspended permission for Yemenia to maintain EU-registered planes in February after it failed a set of audit inspections, the EU's aviation safety agency told Reuters on Tuesday.

The move would not have affected the Airbus A310 plane which crashed off the Comoros islands on Tuesday since that aircraft was registered in Yemen. But it provides further evidence of European concerns over the airline's operations after the EU Commission said the plane which crashed had sparked an EU inquiry two years ago.

Yemen said its planes are thoroughly maintained.

The European Aviation Safety Agency, which is responsible for certifying maintenance operations outside the 27-nation bloc, granted Yemenia the right to maintain EU-registered aircraft in 2006 but suspended it in February this year, a spokeswoman said.

"These approvals are for maintenance organisations located outside the EU, allowing them to maintain aircraft registered in the EU," the spokeswoman for the Cologne-based agency said.

(Reporting by Tim Hepher)
 

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Comoros crash plane owned by ILFC -source | Markets | Markets News | Reuters

Comoros crash plane owned by ILFC -source

Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:35am EDT

PARIS, June 30 (Reuters) - The Airbus plane which crashed off the Comoros islands early on Tuesday did not belong to its operator Yemenia but had been leased from International Lease Finance Corp, an industry source said.

Manufacturer Airbus (EAD.PA) declined to comment.

Los Angeles-based ILFC was not immediately available for comment.

ILFC, part of the recently rescued insurance giant AIG (AIG.N), is one of two leading global aircraft lessors and its fleet of almost 1,000 aircraft is among the world's largest.

The firm is in the process of being sold to help repay the U.S. government for a federal bailout of troubled AIG.

The Airbus A310-300 was built in 1990 and had been operated by Yemenia since 1999, Airbus said earlier. [ID:nLU326177]

The aircraft with 153 people on board crashed into the sea as it tried to land in bad weather on the Indian Ocean archipelago of Comoros, officials said. [ID:nLU506718] (Reporting by Tim Hepher, editing by Marcel Michelson)
 

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Comoros crash survivor a 14-year-old girl | Reuters

Comoros crash survivor a 14-year-old girl

Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:30pm EDT

(Changes age, adds child a girl)

MORONI, June 30 (Reuters) - A 14-year-old girl was found alive in the sea off the Indian Ocean archipelago of Comoros after a Yemenia Airbus A310-300 crashed with 153 people on board on Tuesday, officials said.

Comoros Communications Minister Abdourahim Said Bakar said earlier reports that the rescued child was five were wrong.

"A doctor from the military hospital aboard one of the rescue boats called the Mitsamiouli hospital to tell them a child had been rescued alive," Halidi Ahmed Abdou, a doctor at a medical centre opened for survivors, told Reuters.

Ibrahim Abdourazak, an official at a crisis centre in Comoros, told Reuters the 14-year-old girl was from a village in the centre of the Indian Ocean archipelago.

Bakar also told Al Jazeera television that a 14-year-old girl had been rescued. He said he thought she was the only survivor.

Hadji Madi Ali, director of the international airport in Moroni, had earlier told national radio the child was five. (Reporting by Ahmed Ali Amir; Editing by David Clarke and Robert Woodward)
 

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Jet with 153 crashes off Comoros, boy survives- Hindustan Times

Jet with 153 crashes off Comoros, boy survives

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Johannesburg, July 01, 2009
First Published: 00:35 IST(1/7/2009)
Last Updated: 00:36 IST(1/7/2009)

An Airbus A310-300 from Yemen with 153 people on board crashed into the sea off the Indian Ocean archipelago of Comoros on Tuesday, but a child was pulled from the sea alive.

A Yemeni aviation official said a young boy, who was plucked alive from the Indian Ocean after the passenger jet crashed, was brought ashore.

Mohammed Abdul Qader, the Yemeni civil aviation deputy chief, said the boy is five years old and has been hospitalised in the Comoros.

The Yemenia Airbus jet crashed into the Indian Ocean as it tried to land during strong winds on the island nation.

“Bodies were seen floating on the surface of the water and a fuel slick was also spotted about 16 or 17 nautical miles from Moroni,” a senior Yemeni civil aviation official said.
 

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5-yr-old lone survivor of Airbus crash

Moroni, 30 JUNE: A five-year-old child has survived what 152 others didn’t. A Yemeni Airbus A310 jet, carrying 153 people, crashed into stormy seas as it came into land in the Comoros Islands today ~ the second Airbus to crash in an ocean in less than a month ~ but a rescue team that was launched to try to find survivors, found the five-year-old child alive, hours after the crash. He was found floating 15 kilometres out at sea. All others are feared dead.
Bodies and wreckage from the Yemenia airline flight were spotted in the Indian Ocean near the island archipelago capital, Moroni, aviation officials said. Some bodies have also been found.
There were 142 passengers and 11 crew on the Yemenia airline flight which had started in Paris yesterday and had made stops in Marseille, Sanaa and Djibouti, an official with the carrier said.
France's transport minister Mr Dominique Bussereau said Yemenia was a company “under surveillance” and that “numerous faults” had been recorded on the jet involved.
“A few years ago, we banned this plane from national territory because we believed it presented a certain number of irregularities in its technical equipment,” Mr Bussereau told parliament. The director of Moroni international airport, Mr Hadji Ali, said the control tower lost contact with Flight IY 626 just before it was due to land and confirmed that there was bad weather. French civil aviation officials said 66 passengers were French. Three small babies were also among the passengers, officials said. Rescue boats were sent to the scene and France sent two navy ships and a plane from its nearby Indian Ocean territories to help. But the stormy weather that the plane was going through when it disappeared from radar screens also hampered the rescue. ;Agencies
 

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The Associated Press: Protesters block Paris airport over Yemen crash

Protesters block Paris airport over Yemen crash

By CECILE BRISSON and HELENE GOUPIL – 17 hours ago

PARIS (AP) — Protesters linked arms across an entrance at Paris' main airport on Friday to keep passengers off a Yemeni flight to Comoros — a route that saw a deadly crash this week, after years of complaints about dangerous conditions on the flight path to the Indian Ocean island nation.

The airline that operated the crashed jet, Yemenia, suspended its service to Comoros in response to the Paris protest and other demonstrations this week, accusing the protesters of "inadmissible violence."

Many in the Comoran community in France are angry that it took Tuesday's accident, which killed 152 people on Yemenia airlines' Paris-Moroni flight, to focus attention on the problems. They say that since 2004 they have been complaining about dangerous planes, unhelpful crews and stopovers in the Yemeni capital of San'a that last hours or days in stifling heat with little information and few basic services from the Yemeni airline.

Dozens of protesters gathered outside Charles de Gaulle's Terminal 3 and blocked passengers entering the terminal, shouting at passengers not to take the Yemenia flight.

Only 72 passengers ended up boarding the plane, which has a capacity of 180, and the flight didn't take off until noon, three hours after its scheduled departure, an airport official said on condition of anonymity because she was not authorized to speak to the media. She said, however, that the protest did not appear to have caused the delay.

Yemenia said in a statement later Friday that protesters have exposed airline personnel to "major risks" and as a consequence it suspended all flights to Comoros "until the situation calms." The airline defended its handling of the investigation and pledged to reimburse any unused tickets.

French Transport Minister Dominique Bussereau warned that Yemenia risked inclusion on a European Union list of banned airlines.

Khaled el-Wazeer, the Yemeni transportation minister, said that his government will provide documents within a week showing how the airline deals with technical problems on planes, a measure the EU has called necessary to keep it off the blacklist.

On Thursday, hundreds of shouting demonstrators at Marseille's airport tried to block passengers from boarding a Yemenia flight to the Comoran capital.

The airline said it was indefinitely suspending its flights from the Mediterranean port city to Moroni.

"SOS Trips to Comoros," a passenger group formed to push for better conditions, said that it had complained to airline officials as early as 2004 that planes on the route were unsafe.

Yemeni officials brushed aside the concerns, saying "that if their planes didn't meet standards they wouldn't put their crew on it," member Zalifa Youssouf told The Associated Press by telephone Friday. Yemeni officials issued no public statement on the group's claims Friday.

Ships continued to search for survivors, bodies and wreckage from Yemenia Flight 626, which went down in heavy winds off the coast of the Comoros islands. Hopes of finding anyone alive in the choppy seas were dim.

A 12-year-old girl was rescued after clinging to floating wreckage for more than 13 hours, suffering from hypothermia, a fractured collarbone and widespread bruises to her face, elbow and foot. Her mother was presumed dead.

Bahia Bakari returned to France aboard a French government plane on Thursday and was hospitalized in Paris.

"She is very lucid, very conscious (and) I was able to speak with her," President Nicolas Sarkozy told RTL radio after visiting her.

Sarkozy named a former French ambassador to Sudan, Christine Robichon, as an ambassador charged with liaising between families and international authorities managing the search and investigation regarding the Comoros crash.

The French government also fended off criticism that it was not doing as much for the families of the Comoros crash victims as it did for an Air France flight that crashed en route from Brazil to Paris last month.

Associated Press Writer Ahmed Al-Haj in Sana'a, Yemen contributed to this report.
 

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BBC NEWS | Africa | Month mourning for Comoros crash

Month mourning for Comoros crash

The Comoros has begun 30 days of mourning for those who died in a plane crash in the Indian Ocean, President Ahmed Abdullah Sambi has announced.

He told state television that Comoran authorities needed more international help to find out why the plane crashed.

It was heading to the Comoros from Yemen when it came down in bad weather on Tuesday. All but one of 153 people on board are thought to have died.

French and US crews are assisting the Comorans with the salvage operation.

The BBC's John Ngahyoma in the Comoros says flags will fly at half-mast during the month-long mourning period.

He says life in the capital, Moroni, is returning to normal - but the surrounding villages are much quieter and the usual festivals and weddings are not taking place.


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President Sambi, who cut short his time at an African Union summit in Libya, announced the country was in mourning during a televised address.

"From today, our country is in a period of mourning for 30 days," he said.

He urged France to help find out what happened as the plane attempted to land in Moroni.

There was only one survivor - a 12-year-old girl, who was reunited with her father in France on Thursday.

Many of those who died had started their journey with Yemenia Air in France, before changing planes in Yemen.

Yemenia has now halted all flights in and out of Marseille in southern France after a vocal protest by the large Comoran expatriate population there.

And controversy has continued over the crashed plan - a 19-year-old Airbus A310.

French officials said after crash that the plane had been banned from French airspace because inspectors had found faults with it.

And Comorans say they had repeatedly warned that the planes used by Yemenia between the Yemen capital Sanaa and Moroni were dangerous.

But Yemeni aviation official Abdul-Rahman Abdul-Qader rejected the accusations about the plane's condition.

"This is baseless, otherwise we would not have allowed the plane to go on an overseas trip," he told Reuters news agency.

"We exercise strict control on our planes and if anything like this [was discovered] the plane would, of course, never be allowed to take off," he said.

There were 66 French nationals among the passengers. Most of the rest were Comorans, and most had flown on a different Yemenia aircraft from Paris or Marseille before boarding flight IY626 in Sanaa.

 

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AFP: Comoros president urges calm after air disaster

Comoros president urges calm after air disaster

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PARIS (AFP) — The Comoros president on Saturday called for calm in the aftermath of a plane crash that killed 152 people, as Yemenia cancelled all flights to the islands and thousands rallied in France.

President Ahmed Abdallah Sambi in a statement urged the Comoran community in France to show "calm and serenity at a time of contemplation and mourning to secure national and international solidarity."

Yemenia announced Saturday it had suspended all flights to the Comoros following Tuesday's crash of an Airbus A310 near the islands' capital Moroni in which all but one of its 153 passengers and crew perished.

Meanwhile, at least 10,000 people, some carrying with banners reading "Never again" and "Life is priceless" marched in the southern French city of Marseille, home to a large expatriate community, in memory of the victims.

Organisers put the number taking part at around 40,000.

The disaster has sparked protests among the Comoran community in France over the condition of the 19-year-old Airbus that Yemenia used on its Moroni service.

"In light of serious incidents in recent days and major risks that some passengers posed to airport staff, our company and passengers, Yemenia has decided to no longer serve Moroni for an indefinite period from July 3 until the situation eases," it said in a statement.

Yemenia's lawyer in France, Laurent-Franck Lienard, told AFP that only flights to Moroni were affected, and that the airline would continue to fly to other destinations -- including Paris-Sanaa, Paris-Kuala Lumpur and Paris-Jakarta -- as normal.

Since the crash, survived only by a 12-year-old girl now recovering in a Paris hospital, members of the Comoran community have blocked check-in desks in Paris and Marseille for Yemenia flights to Moroni, prompting the airline on Thursday to suspend services from Marseille.

In a separate development Saturday, Frence Prime Minister Francois Fillon tasked a former French ambassador to Sudan, Christine Robichon, to help the families of those killed in the crash.

In a statement, he said Robichon would act as a go-between between the families and relevant agencies, and also oversee "good cooperation" between Comorans, Yemeni officials and Yemenia airlines.

In its statement, Yemenia said it "shares the pain of families who lost loved ones in this tragic accident" as it strives to pass along information and swiftly pay out "provisional compensation."

But it lamented what it called "irrational" demonstrations and "unacceptable violence" that were compromising the airline's ability to deal with the disaster.

"These displays of violence and serious threats are aimed at preventing the airline from continuing its service to the Comoros," it said.

"They risk leading to a new tragedy, on the ground or in the air, which Yemenia has a duty to prevent."

To passengers holding tickets for suspended flights, Yemenia "pledges that all tickets for flights to Moroni will be refunded in full".
 

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Rescuers find debris of Yemenia aircraft - ministry | World | Reuters

Rescuers find debris of Yemenia aircraft - ministry

Sat Jul 4, 2009 7:29pm IST



SANAA (Reuters) - Search crews have located a large piece of debris from a Yemeni jet that crashed into the Indian Ocean off the Comoros islands last week and are working to retrieve it, the Yemeni transport ministry said on Saturday.

A fourteen-year-old girl appears to be the sole survivor of the crash. Rescuers have been unable to find any of the remaining 152 passengers and crew since the Yemenia Airbus A310-300 crashed in strong winds in the early hours of Tuesday morning.

"The American team was able to locate a large piece of the the aircraft's parts and is currently retrieving it," the ministry said in a statement.

The plane plunged into the sea as it came in to land at Moroni, the capital of the formerly French-ruled Comoros archipelago, which comprises three islands off mainland east Africa and northwest of Madagascar.

The aircraft had taken off from the Yemeni capital Sanaa, but many of the passengers had come from France aboard an Airbus A330 which flew the Paris-Marseille-Yemen leg of the flight.

Yemenia has suspended flights from Paris, the Paris airports operator said on Friday.
 

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BBC NEWS | Africa | Yemenia crash jet signal detected

Yemenia crash jet signal detected

A signal has been detected from the flight data recorders of the Yemenia airliner that crashed in the Indian Ocean on 30 June, officials say.

Comoran and French investigators say the signal was picked up during an underwater search.

They gave no indication when the flight recorders might be recovered.

The Airbus 310, going to the Comoros Islands from Yemen, came down in bad weather with 153 on board. A 12-year-old girl was the only survivor.

"Investigators from the BEA [France's accident investigation agency] have detected a signal from the flight recorders," Comoran lead investigator Ali Abdou Mohamed said in a statement that was received in Paris, the AFP reports.

The French agency later issued a statement, saying that "the BEA confirms that a signal from the two boxes was detected this morning during underwater searches to locate the flight recorders of Flight IY 626.

'Irregularities'

No official cause for the crash has yet been determined.

However, the European Union and France have both said they highlighted safety concerns over Yemenia planes and said the jet that crashed had not flown into EU airspace since 2007.

The French transport ministry said on Tuesday that the plane had been banned from France because of "irregularities".

But Yemenia responded by criticising "false information and speculation about technical problems" on the plane.

Many of the passengers were travelling to the Comoros but had begun their journey in Paris or Marseille on another jet operated by Yemenia, the national airline of Yemen, before boarding flight IY626 in Sanaa.

Survivor's story

The only survivor - the 12-year-old girl - was found clinging to debris some two hours after the crash.



Doctors say the only survivor's
condition has improved

Speaking later from a hospital in the Comoros Islands, Baya Bakari told her father how she had been thrown into the ocean and watched her aircraft sink.

She said: "Papa, we saw the plane going down in the water. I was in the dark, I couldn't see a thing.

"[And] on top of that, daddy, I can't swim well and I held on to something, but don't really know what."

The girl was later airlifted to a hospital in France.



Flight data recorders, or "black boxes", are in fact orange or red.
Commercial aircraft carry two. One logs performance and condition of aircraft in flight, another records conversations of crew and their contact with Air Traffic controllers during the flight.


The Crash Survivable Memory Unit (CSMU) contains a memory board surrounded by thermal insulation and steel armour that can withstand a crash impact thousands of times the force of gravity and survive in the sea at depths of 20,000ft (6,096m).


The CSMU is insulated to sustain temperatures up to 1,100C for up to an hour or "low" temperature fires of around 260C for 10 hours.
An underwater locator beacon fitted on recorders emits continuous ultrasonic "ping" when they come into contact with water. The signal can reach the surface from depths of 14,000ft.
 

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Who will rule Indian Ocean?

:mornin:

Who will rule Indian Ocean?

Two big naval forces are going to contend for the control of Indian Ocean. As a very large portion of global sea trade goes through Indian Ocean and there are several strategic points important for both India and China these two countries are modernizing and expanding their naval power very rapidly to gain control of Indian Ocean. Let us analyze the naval strength of these two nations including present and probable expansion in next decade.

Please contribute on the followings-

1) Submarine fleet - a) Diesel-Electric submarines b) Nuclear Submarines
2) Surface ships-Careers, destroyers etc
3) ASW capabilities
4) Naval Exercise
5) Anything you feel relavent:connie_searchingsky

Here I am starting with a study of Diesel-Electric Submarines of China and India.

Diesel-Electric Submarines of PLAN

If we take consider 2020 as timeline, the PLAN sub-marine fleet will compose of Kilo class, Type 039 Song class and Yuan class. Presently operational 8 Type 033 Romeo class and 15 Type 035 Ming class will be phased out (The inventory of PLAN submarines looks very large because of them. Anyway putting them aside we will get a more transparent picture for our comparison)

At present PLAN operates 12 Russian Kilo class submarines of which 4 belong to Project 877 Paltus and 8 are of more advanced version, belong to Project 636. (Note-India’s 10 Kilo class subs are of Project 877) These were commissioned In between 1994 to 2006.

PLAN operates 13 TYPE 039 Song class submarines. These are first indigenously built submarines which can be comparable to contemporary western submarines. AIP system might be installed in these ships in future.

Yuan class submarines are most advanced among PLAN’s submarines. These submarines are believed to have influence of Russian Kilo class but its capabilities surpass that of Kilo class and Song Class. But technology of Yuan class lags behind of German Type 212 or Russian Lada class. Serial production of these submarines started in 2007 and at least 2 have been built till now. Though china has the option to buy more advanced Russian Amur class submarines, it may go for its indigenous submarines instead of buying Amurs.

Diesel Electric Submarines Indian Navy

Among 16 submarines of Indian Navy 2 Foxtort class submarines (commissioned in 1973-74) will be decommissioned.

At present India is operating (10 Kilo) Sindhughosh class submarines commissioned in between 1986 to 2000 and 4 (Type 209) Shishumar class submarines commissioned in between 1986 to 1994.

6 (Project 75) Scorpene of French origin are being built at Mazagaon Dock Ltd and last three of these submarines will have MESMA Air Independent Propulsion module. These submarines will be commissioned starting from 2012 to 2017.

There will be 6 more modern submarines (project 75 B) to be commissioned within 2015 to 2020. These might be of Russian Amur class or German Type 214 submarines or more advanced model of DCN (manufacturer of Scorpene) though details are not still available.

The myth of very large submarine fleet of PLAN will not hold once the obsolete submarines are deducted from the comparison. If PLAN inducts 10 more Yuan class submarines in next decade total number of Diesel-Electric submarines will be 37 while Indian Navy will operate 26 such submarines. If China fails to maintain the standard of Yuan class submarines at per with the western ones India will have the qualitative advantage because of the proven technology in Scorpene or U-214/Amur class submarines.
 

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Who will rule Indian Ocean?

Two big naval forces are going to contend for the control of Indian Ocean. As a very large portion of global sea trade goes through Indian Ocean and there are several strategic points important for both India and China these two countries are modernizing and expanding their naval power very rapidly to gain control of Indian Ocean. Let us analyze the naval strength of these two nations including present and probable expansion in next decade.

Please contribute on the followings-

1) Submarine fleet - a) Diesel-Electric submarines b) Nuclear Submarines
2) Surface ships-Careers, destroyers etc
3) ASW capabilities
4) Naval Exercise
5) Anything you feel relavent:connie_searchingsky

Here I am starting with a study of Diesel-Electric Submarines of China and India.

Diesel-Electric Submarines of PLAN

If we take consider 2020 as timeline, the PLAN sub-marine fleet will compose of Kilo class, Type 039 Song class and Yuan class. Presently operational 8 Type 033 Romeo class and 15 Type 035 Ming class will be phased out (The inventory of PLAN submarines looks very large because of them. Anyway putting them aside we will get a more transparent picture for our comparison)

At present PLAN operates 12 Russian Kilo class submarines of which 4 belong to Project 877 Paltus and 8 are of more advanced version, belong to Project 636. (Note-India’s 10 Kilo class subs are of Project 877) These were commissioned In between 1994 to 2006.

PLAN operates 13 TYPE 039 Song class submarines. These are first indigenously built submarines which can be comparable to contemporary western submarines. AIP system might be installed in these ships in future.

Yuan class submarines are most advanced among PLAN’s submarines. These submarines are believed to have influence of Russian Kilo class but its capabilities surpass that of Kilo class and Song Class. But technology of Yuan class lags behind of German Type 212 or Russian Lada class. Serial production of these submarines started in 2007 and at least 2 have been built till now. Though china has the option to buy more advanced Russian Amur class submarines, it may go for its indigenous submarines instead of buying Amurs.

Diesel Electric Submarines Indian Navy

Among 16 submarines of Indian Navy 2 Foxtort class submarines (commissioned in 1973-74) will be decommissioned.

At present India is operating (10 Kilo) Sindhughosh class submarines commissioned in between 1986 to 2000 and 4 (Type 209) Shishumar class submarines commissioned in between 1986 to 1994.

6 (Project 75) Scorpene of French origin are being built at Mazagaon Dock Ltd and last three of these submarines will have MESMA Air Independent Propulsion module. These submarines will be commissioned starting from 2012 to 2017.

There will be 6 more modern submarines (project 75 B) to be commissioned within 2015 to 2020. These might be of Russian Amur class or German Type 214 submarines or more advanced model of DCN (manufacturer of Scorpene) though details are not still available.

The myth of very large submarine fleet of PLAN will not hold once the obsolete submarines are deducted from the comparison. If PLAN inducts 10 more Yuan class submarines in next decade total number of Diesel-Electric submarines will be 37 while Indian Navy will operate 26 such submarines. If China fails to maintain the standard of Yuan class submarines at per with the western ones India will have the qualitative advantage because of the proven technology in Scorpene or U-214/Amur class submarines.

You are not even counting their existing nuclear boomers..
 

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US rules and will continue to rule the Indian ocean. Indian navy will cooperate with them to keep the ocean lines free.

But if we want to know if China can make any in roads into the Indian ocean region, then itshould be known that it starts with a huge handicap of location. India sits on the Indian ocean and thst itself gives it the advantage. PLAN is not the USN that it can operate so far from it's mainland. Logistics is the key problem.

Chinese boomers will not be a risk there as far as shipping is concerned. They will come into picture only if there is a war and they have orders to launch. Their other ships can't come close to IOR.
 

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China has more than 73 submarines including their nuke subs, while India has only 16 of which 8 are in dry dock for repairs more than they're at sea. If India doesn't modernize her navy fast, soon the battle for the "Indian" Ocean will be fought not by India, but between the US and China.

At the rate India's defence modernization is progressing, it will take 4 to 5 decades just to match China's currently deployed military hardware.
 

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