Indian Navy Developments & Discussions

[shiv]

hey this is a great idea......can someone put a light on what operations mini-subs do beside rescue and commando carrying??

 

[Payeng]

hey this is a great idea......can someone put a light on what operations mini-subs do beside rescue and commando carrying??

Latin American drug smugglers uses Mini Subs to evade the US cost guards
This is the most effective use of Mini subs apart from the U boats since WWII

 

[duhastmish]

Brother.
subs are future of warfare. A submarine is most difficult to detect and most easy to cary to any other place. These minisubs as name suggest are subs wich are smaller to big heavy ones. these are easy to take anywhere. :sniper:

 

[nitesh]

INS Shikra expansion to be completed in 3 weeks

 

[EnlightenedMonk]

Navy invites bids to build drydock in waterbed

Mumbai: The Indian Navy has invited bids for construction of a unique drydock, on a waterbed at the Naval Dockyard — India’s premier dockyard for naval ship repairs and maintenance work.

A drydock, by definition, refers to a narrow basin that can be flooded with water and simultaneously drained to allow loading of ships, boat and other watercraft, on a dry platform in order to undertake construction, maintenance and repair. The Naval Dockyard of the Indian Navy was established in 1735 and it already comprises three docks in line — the Upper Old Bombay Dock, the Middle Old Bombay Dock and the Lower Old Bombay Dock.

However, with considerable growth in the number of Naval ships over the years, the Navy felt constrained as the docking facilities are limited. Another shortcoming is that the Navy cannot undertake repair and maintenance work of very large ships like the aircraft carriers that weigh upwards of a minimum of 30,000 tonnes.

“It is in view of our future needs when we will induct Admiral Gorshkov and the indigenously-developed aircraft carriers that we have decided to built this unique drydock,” said Vice Admiral Vineet Bakhshi, Director-General, Naval Projects (DGNP), Mumbai. “The Indian Navy has pioneered multiple docking but we do not have docking facilities for aircraft carriers,” he said.

The drydock, which is to be built on the wet basin of the dockyard, will measure 280 metres in length, 45 metres in width and will be 14 metres deep with a frontage of 400 metres, according to Vice Admiral Bakhshi. “It is technologically challenging. In fact, making anything in South Bombay is challenging,” he said.

While the approximate project cost falls in the range of Rs 600-700 crores, Bakhshi revealed that the Navy has already shortlisted four contractors for bidding and hopes to break ground in August-September this year. Those shortlisted are Netherlands-based Royal Hesconics, ITDC Cementation, L&T, Hindustan Construction and Hyderabad-based Navyuk Constructions.

The Navy has also adopted a more advanced form of bidding than the earlier method. “We have adopted the FIDIC method of bidding where the responsibility of design as well as construction will be with the same company,” said Bakhshi.

Vice Admiral Bakhshi said it is a case where one will be building two retaining walls, a barrier and a gate on an existing waterbody. “The initial construction will be on the wet basin itself,” he said, adding that the project had been five years in the making considering the nitty-gritties, government approval and above all the technological challenge. “As far as I know, there exists only another dock of this kind, in Dubai,” he said.

But why not build a drydock on a new location, for example in the upcoming naval base of Karwar in Goa? To which, Admiral Bakhshi replies: “You can buy machinery, systems and all sorts of technology. But the most precious capital to harness is the human capital — the skilled workers at Naval Dockyard. That’s why we will build the dock here.”

http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/navy-invites-bids-to-build-drydock-in-waterbed/434694/

 

[Rage]

Bharati Shipyard bags Rs 281cr defence contract

Press Trust of India / Mumbai March 6, 2009, 11:32 IST


Ship building firm Bharati Shipyard today said it has bagged a Rs 281-crore contract from the Ministry of Defence for supplying 15 interceptor boats for Indian coast guard.

These vessels are lightweight specialized high speed crafts used for patrolling and interception, Bharti Shipyard said in a filing to the Bombay Stock Exchange (BSE).

With this contract, the order books of Bharti Shipyard have crossed the Rs. 5,000 crore mark and now stands at Rs. 5,093 crore, the company further added.

The private sector firm designs and constructs various types of sea going, coastal harbour, inland craft vessels and it currently owns five shipyards in the country.

Shares of Bharti Shipyard were trading at Rs 49 at BSE in morning trade, down by 0.41 per cent over the previous close.


http://www.business-standard.com/in...yard-bags-rs-281-cr-defence-contract/56236/on

 

[nitesh]

Navy invites bids to build drydock in waterbed

 

[shiv]

Navy invites bids to build drydock

Mumbai The Indian Navy has invited bids for construction of a unique drydock, on a waterbed at the Naval Dockyard — India’s premier dockyard for naval ship repairs and maintenance work.

A drydock, by definition, refers to a narrow basin that can be flooded with water and simultaneously drained to allow loading of ships, boat and other watercraft, on a dry platform in order to undertake construction, maintenance and repair. The Naval Dockyard of the Indian Navy was established in 1735 and it already comprises three docks in line — the Upper Old Bombay Dock, the Middle Old Bombay Dock and the Lower Old Bombay Dock.

However, with considerable growth in the number of Naval ships over the years, the Navy felt constrained as the docking facilities are limited. Another shortcoming is that the Navy cannot undertake repair and maintenance work of very large ships like the aircraft carriers that weigh upwards of a minimum of 30,000 tonnes.

“It is in view of our future needs when we will induct Admiral Gorshkov and the indigenously-developed aircraft carriers that we have decided to built this unique drydock,” said Vice Admiral Vineet Bakhshi, Director-General, Naval Projects (DGNP), Mumbai. “The Indian Navy has pioneered multiple docking but we do not have docking facilities for aircraft carriers,” he said.

The drydock, which is to be built on the wet basin of the dockyard, will measure 280 metres in length, 45 metres in width and will be 14 metres deep with a frontage of 400 metres, according to Vice Admiral Bakhshi. “It is technologically challenging. In fact, making anything in South Bombay is challenging,” he said.

While the approximate project cost falls in the range of Rs 600-700 crores, Bakhshi revealed that the Navy has already shortlisted four contractors for bidding and hopes to break ground in August-September this year. Those shortlisted are Netherlands-based Royal Hesconics, ITDC Cementation, L&T, Hindustan Construction and Hyderabad-based Navyuk Constructions.

The Navy has also adopted a more advanced form of bidding than the earlier method. “We have adopted the FIDIC method of bidding where the responsibility of design as well as construction will be with the same company,” said Bakhshi.

Vice Admiral Bakhshi said it is a case where one will be building two retaining walls, a barrier and a gate on an existing waterbody. “The initial construction will be on the wet basin itself,” he said, adding that the project had been five years in the making considering the nitty-gritties, government approval and above all the technological challenge. “As far as I know, there exists only another dock of this kind, in Dubai,” he said.

But why not build a drydock on a new location, for example in the upcoming naval base of Karwar in Goa? To which, Admiral Bakhshi replies: “You can buy machinery, systems and all sorts of technology. But the most precious capital to harness is the human capital — the skilled workers at Naval Dockyard. That’s why we will build the dock here.”

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NEWS/newsrf.php?newsid=10690

 

[shiv]

does anyone has anymore info of this???

what will be the tonnage capacity of this dock??

how many ships can be repaired,constructed,refitted together??

 

[nitesh]

On board the Shivalik

 

[nitesh]

http://ajaishukla.blogspot.com/2009/03/visit-to-ins-shivalik-indias-newest.html

[THE SHIVALIK’S TEETH : WEAPONS SYSTEMS ON BOARD]

Anti-air defence : Radar-guided Shtil missile system.

Point Defence : Two Barak-1 Vertical Launch Systems (VLS)
Missile System and Two AK-630 Rapid Fire Guns
(PDMS)

Anti-surface : Eight Klub Vertical Launch System (VLS)
missiles cruise missiles, with a range of almost 300 kilometers

Anti-submarine : RBU 6000 rocket launchers, total 24 barrels. Also,
two onboard helicopters, with sonars and torpedoes

Main gun : OtoMelara 76 mm Super Rapid Gun Mount (SRGM)
manufactured at BHEL, Haridwar. This can
fire at ground and aerial targets 15-20 km away]

[IN THE PIPELINE: WARSHIPs BEING BUILT IN INDIA]

Kochi shipyard : Indigenous aircraft carrier

Mazagon Dock, : Project 17 : Three Shivalik class frigates
Mumbai Project 15-A : Three Kolkata class destroyers
Project Scorpene : Six Scorpene submarines

Garden Reach : Project 28 : Four anti-submarine corvettes
Shipyard, Kolkata Ten fast attack craft
Two Landing ships for amphibious warfare

Goa Shipyard : Three OPVs (Offshore Patrol Vessels)

Private yards : Six survey vessels

 

[EnlightenedMonk]

India warships to join Chinese fleet review in April

New Delhi, Mar 20 (PTI) In a sign of growing defence ties between the two Asian giants, India will send two of its naval ships to China to participate in the International Fleet Review at its port-town of Quingdao this April.
This will be the second occasion in the last two years that India's naval ships would visit a Chinese port.

"Indian warships will be participating in the Chinese fleet review to be held between April 20 and 24. The Navy ships would also carry out a passage exercise with the Chinese navy vessels in the South China sea during the visit," a senior Navy source said here today.

Pakistan too would be joining the fleet review with its Type-21 frigate and another unnamed warship, sources said.

The visit to China would be part of Navy's annual deployment of its warships of the eastern fleet in the Pacific Ocean beginning today and extending up to May 19.

Among the Navy's eastern fleet, Delhi-class guided missile Destroyer INS Mumbai, Rajput-class Destroyer INS Ranvijay, Khukri-class missile Corvette INS Khanjar and Fleet Replenishment Ship INS Jyoti would be part of the deployment in the Pacific, the sources said.

Of these, INS Jyoti and another warship would take part in the fleet review. India had earlier sent its warships to China in early 2007 for a passage exercise.

http://www.ptinews.com/pti//ptisite.nsf/0/21E99655C7D34A746525757F004E9BDE?OpenDocument

 

[pyromaniac]

US allows GE to work on Indian warship

India’s new stealth warship, the INS Shivalik, is back on track. On March 12, 2009, the US government gave General Electric (GE) the green signal for resuming work on the two LM 2500 gas turbines that power the Shivalik. On March 6, 2009, Business Standard had reported that the stealth frigate was being delayed by “stop all work” instructions to GE from the US State Department.


Vice-Admiral HS Malhi, the chairman and managing director of Mazagon Dock Ltd (MDL), which is building the INS Shivalik, has confirmed to Business Standard: “The issue has been resolved. GE has communicated to us that they have been given permission to go ahead. Earlier, GE had indicted that the permission could take 3-4 months in coming; but now (the US State Department) has cleared it.

The US State Department’s complex defence export procedures appear to be behind this delay. US industry sources explain that the LM 2500 gas turbines are dual-use power plants — they have commercial as well as military uses. For that reason, they are not listed on the US Munitions List and do not require an export licence from the State Department’s Directorate of Defence Trade Controls (DDTC). However, for fitting these dual-use turbines on a warship, that is, for providing a “military service”, a Technical Assistance Agreement (TAA) is needed from State Department. This was only received on March 12, after which GE resumed work on the Shivalik.

Nikhil Khanna of the US-India Business Council (USIBC) confirms: “GE needed to apply for a TAA from the Political-Military Bureau at the State Dept, which they did…. Simple procedures needed to be completed according to US technology release policies and we’re confident and proud that GE’s LM2500 engines will power India’s cutting-edge stealth warships.”

GE has confirmed to defence industry publication, Jane’s: “GE continues to provide the Indian Navy with LM2500 gas turbines for its ship programs… with no export licence required. This week GE obtained a licence from the US Department of State, to authorise the delivery of all shipboard services being requested.”

Partly as a result of this delay, MDL is racing to try and complete work on the Shivalik before the monsoons make sea trials difficult. Vice-Admiral Malhi says: “What time was lost cannot be regained now. We wanted the gas turbines in mid-January; we are now looking at end-March. So, we have lost about two months. I hope GE is able to crash it (work on an accelerated basis) and reduce the time that has been lost.”

The US industry is bitter about “undue attention” on the Shivalik delay. Says an industry source: “This is when we should be celebrating recent successes, such as the Lockheed C-130J sale, Boeing VVIP jets and, recently, the largest-ever deal between the US and India, that of the $2.2 billion Boeing P-8i (maritime reconnaissance aircraft) sale to the Indian Navy, (which will be) the first international customer for the P-8i, a huge step forward in the growing strategic relationship between our countries.”

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NEWS/newsrf.php?newsid=10712

 

[pyromaniac]

India says lift ban on dual use items; dangles $270 bn business

India has asked the US to lift the ban on sale of dual use items, noting that besides $150 billion business for American nuclear
power reactors it could lead to another $120 billion in defence sales.

"With the opening up of nuclear commerce with India, there is a need now to review and remove these unnecessary restrictions on international trade with dual use item and technology," Prime Minister's Special Envoy on nuclear issues Shyam Saran said Monday.

"As India's economy matures and its industry moves into higher-end manufacturing, the demand for high technology goods and services is destined for a major boost," he said in a keynote speech at the Brookings, a Washington think tank on "Indo-US civil nuclear agreement: Expectations and Consequences".

"And the US, of course, remains preferred source of such goods and services," he said expressing the hope that "the so-called Entity List, which still prohibits sale of US technology and services to a number of Indian high-tech companies, will be scrapped sooner than later.

Hit by the global economic crisis India's growth rate is likely to go down 2 or 3 percentage points in the next couple of years, but energy and defence will remain at the top of India's national agenda, Saran said.

"This should encourage the US to look at India as a welcome source of demand for its goods and services, even as the global economy contracts," he said.

Saran, who played a key role in negotiating the nuclear deal, said India's offer to buy upto 10,000 megawatts of US nuclear power reactors "may translate into $150 billion worth of projects, with significant business opportunities and potential collaboration for both Indian and US companies."

If India maintains its current level of defence spending to achieve its medium and long-term goals of force upgradation, then a growing part of the expected 10 year plan of $120 billion could be reoriented towards the US supplies, he said.

"This will require the US to overcome lingering Indian doubts about the reliability of US supplies," Saran said suggesting that the two countries "work together to find a mutually acceptable solution which will take care of US legal requirements about end use monitoring of transferred defence articles and also meet our sensitivities."

Saran said he was certain "we will be able to do so quickly given our past experience and also given the interest both our countries have in strengthening this relationship."


http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...items-ban-India-to-US/articleshow/4308357.cms

 

[nitesh]

Indian Navy docks three ships in Abu Dhabi

 

[bhramos]

http://ajaishukla.blogspot.com/2009/03/visit-to-ins-shivalik-indias-newest.html

[THE SHIVALIK’S TEETH : WEAPONS SYSTEMS ON BOARD]

Main gun : OtoMelara 76 mm Super Rapid Gun Mount (SRGM)
manufactured at BHEL, Haridwar. This can
fire at ground and aerial targets 15-20 km away]

Its a old gun system [Made in Italy]...
OtoBreda 76 mm is presently used by 53 navies...
wat a hell , why r we producing this type of guns which is outdated.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otobreda_76_mm
Atleast why couldn't we take License production of Ak-230/Ak-630 guns

 

[Payeng]

Its a old gun system [Made in Italy]...
OtoBreda 76 mm is presently used by 53 navies...
wat a hell , why r we producing this type of guns which is outdated.

Source: Otobreda 76 mm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Atleast why couldn't we take License production of Ak-230/Ak-630 guns

The main weapon of Shivalik should be AShCM

The Guns you are mentioning are anti aircraft guns expect AK 630 in the CIWSystem of the frigate ,

so what is your favoured main gun?

 

[pyromaniac]

Indian Navy to Conduct User Trials of HAPP Advanced Anti Submarine Rockets

In Tamil Nadu, the Heavy Alloy Penetrator Project (HAPP), Tiruchy, will issue the second generation of the advanced anti submarine rocket for user trials by August this year.

The first generation of the anti submarine rocket for Navy is currently under various user trials at PINA, Pune said the General Manager of HAPP, Shri R.R. Yadav at Tiruchirapalli today. He further said HAPP is capable of manufacturing the first generation of anti submarine in bulk once it receives orders from the Navy.

At present Navy is importing anti submarine rockets. The manufacture of these rockets indigenous will further boost the Research and Developmental activities of HAPP, he said on the side lines of the silver jubilee celebrations of the Project.

HAPP is also tries to tap the potential in civil market in a big way by supplying tailor made products to firms like Midhani, Hyderabad, HAL, Bangalore, BHEL, Haridwar, he said. Projects are on for the development of rockets for Air Force. It will be ready by next year, he said.


Indian Navy to Conduct User Trials of HAPP Advanced Anti Submarine Rockets | India Defence

 

[EnlightenedMonk]

SIMBEX 2009: Singapore, India Participate in Annual Marine Exercise in Andaman Sea

Aiming to attain interoperability and train personnel in manoeuvres during war, Indian and Singaporean navies launched their annual bilateral exercise SIMBEX-2009 in the Andaman Sea.

Being the 16th in the series of exercises that began in 1994, this year's edition of SIMBEX would extend from the Andaman Sea to the South China Sea and would go on till April 2, Naval officers said here.

The Indian Navy is fielding vessels from its Eastern Fleet, which are currently on a South-East and East Asian deployment. These ships are bound for the Chinese port-city of Qingdao in the Yellow Sea, where they would participate in Chinas first International Fleet Review next month.

"Both navies will, as usual, field front line surface and sub-surface combatants for the SIMBEX. This will be in addition to fixed-wing and rotary-wing aircraft from both sides," officers said.

An acronym for Singapore India Maritime Bilateral Exercise, SIMBEX was formalised a decade-and-half ago when Republic of Singapore Navy (RSN) ships began training in Anti-Submarine Warfare (ASW) with the Indian Navy in 1994.

As such, they have graduated from purely training-oriented ASW exercises to complex multi-dimensional exercises, involving multiple facets of operations at sea.

 

[EnlightenedMonk]

Advanced warship programme: Navy says build abroad

Advanced warship programme: Navy says build abroad

The Indian Navy’s Project 17 is nearing completion; three Indian-designed-and-built stealth frigates of the Shivalik class are on track to enter service. Now, attention has switched to Project 17-A, the country’s biggest-ever naval purchase, a Rs 17,000 crore plan to build seven stealth frigates that are even more advanced than the Shivalik class.

The Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) has long cleared the project, but no order has yet been placed by the Ministry of Defence. Business Standard has learned that the order is held up by a difference of opinion between the shipyards and the navy on where these frigates should be built.

The two defence shipyards capable of manufacturing 5000-tonne frigates — Mazagon Dock Limited, Mumbai (MDL) and Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers, Kolkata (GRSE) — argue that Project 17-A should be built entirely in India. The Indian Navy insists that the first two frigates should be built in a foreign shipyard. After the Indian shipyards have observed how it is done, they can build the next five vessels.

At the heart of the disagreement is a new, highly advanced building method — modular shipbuilding — that India will use for Project 17-A, and for all projects thereafter.

Conventional shipbuilding was relatively simple: first weld together a steel hull, and then put in the engines, piping, electrical wiring, fitments, weaponry and electronics that make it a fighting platform. Modular shipbuilding is far more complex, akin to a giant Lego game. The warship is built in 300-tonne blocks, each block complete with all the piping, electrical wiring and fitments that form a part of the ship. Then these 300-tonne blocks are brought together by giant cranes and assembled into a complete warship.

This creates an entirely different set of design challenges. Each bulkhead wall, each pipe, each cable, and each electronic component in a 300-tonne block must precisely connect with its counterpart in the neighbouring block. Each block is designed separately, but all of them must come together in perfect alignment.

This method has never been used by either MDL or GRSE; they accept the need for a foreign design partner. But both shipyards, having successfully built frigates of the Brahmaputra and the Shivalik class, claim they already have the expertise needed to build Project 17-A, based on the foreign partner’s drawings. Admiral HS Malhi, Chairman and Managing Director (CMD) of MDL says, “We need to go abroad for the production drawings… But for actual modular construction, no technology is required to be transferred”

The Navy believes that if MDL and GRSE try to master this skill while they build the first Project 17-A frigates, the entire programme will be delayed unacceptably. Instead, the Director of Naval Design, Rear Admiral MK Badhwar, says the foreign design partner selected should built the first two frigates in his own shipyard, observed by Indian workmen who can thereby pick up the skills.

The DND says, “This will also make the vendor demonstrate “buildability”. He must demonstrate that his design can be actually built into a warship, using modular construction, in four years. That will create a demonstrated benchmark for GRSE and MDL; otherwise, if there are delays later, our shipyards could argue that the foreign yard too would have taken a long period to build each frigate.”

The MoD’s is finding it difficult to reconcile these two viewpoints, partly because a decision to build two frigates abroad would sharply escalate the cost of Project 17-A. Each Shivalik class stealth frigate, built in MDL, cost Rs 2000-2500 crores. The bill for a comparable frigate, built in a European shipyard for the Australian navy, has come to more than double that figure.

http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/advanced-warship-programme-navy-says-build-abroad/353083/