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Can anyone tell me what are those white balls?
Radar ?
Is this a survey ship?
This is VC11184

The vessel will have on board a specialised team from the National Technical Research Organisation (NTRO) — India’s principal technical intelligence bureau, which reports directly to the National Security Advisor’s office at the PMO. The ship will be primarily tasked with missile tracking using two sensors, possibly an X-Band AESA primary radar and an S-Band AESA secondary radar, ranging and electronic intelligence (ELINT) gathering, making it the first ship of its kind to join Indian service. Only four other countries — the US, Russia, China and France — operate similar vessels.
 

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So will she out of harbor during war or its just another survey toy of Indian military
A couple of things to note here:

1. Survey ships of the IN are not toys. They are amongst our most effective soft power tools. Indian survey ships are much sought after in the IOR and even beyond.

2. I don't want to say too much. But, consider this, the ship was being built at SBC in a covered yard, the same place where the SSBNs are built. It was a classified project and there were absolutely no word on it till LIVEFIST broke the story a few weeks before the launch (which made the secrecy a moot point anyway). Samajhdaar ko ishaara hi kaaphi hai. The ship sports three massive radars, need I say more?
 

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Survey ships go far and wide including south china sea to map out the area for our subs and ships.
 

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A couple of things to note here:

1. Survey ships of the IN are not toys. They are amongst our most effective soft power tools. Indian survey ships are much sought after in the IOR and even beyond.

2. I don't want to say too much. But, consider this, the ship was being built at SBC in a covered yard, the same place where the SSBNs are built. It was a classified project and there were absolutely no word on it till LIVEFIST broke the story a few weeks before the launch (which made the secrecy a moot point anyway). Samajhdaar ko ishaara hi kaaphi hai. The ship sports three massive radars, need I say more?
What do survey ships do? Are they like AEWACS to survey the air?

Because the sea survey will be limited by curvature of earth and hence can't reach more than 100km.
 

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VC11184 primarily is a missile range instrumentation ship (MRIS)

it has
1.a long-range L-band active phased-array tracking radar based on Multi-Object Tracking Radar (MOTR) for monitoring the flight trajectory of ballistic missiles like ICBMs and SLBMs
2.a X-band precision tracking radar for tracking the in-bound flight trajectories of MIRV-type warheads.

it will be used during testing of long range ICBMs and their MIRVs when deployed far away near Antarctica ie track ICBMs and multiple MIRV flight paths and validate their accuracy

also expect it to be used for tracking ASAT tests in the future

another smaller drdo MRIS ship is also being built by Kochi-based Cochin Shipyard Ltd. this 130m long MRIS will be equipped with a smaller version of the MOTR, known as the M-MOTR, as well as X-band active phased-array precision-tracking radar. This MRIS will be used for monitoring the flight trajectories of long range subsonic ,supersonic and hypersonic cruise missiles, especially during their terminal phases of flight.
 
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8 Indian Navy pilots, 1 belonging to Bangladesh Navy get wings
STAFF REPORTER
VELLORE, DECEMBER 15, 2017 01:25 IST
UPDATED: DECEMBER 15, 2017 01:25 IST


Rear Admiral Alok Bhatnagar, Flag Officer, Tamil Nadu and Puducherry Naval Area reviewing the Passing Out Parade held at INS Rajali Naval Air Station, Arakkonam on Thursday. Commodore V.K. Pisharody, Commanding Officer, INS Rajali is in the picture. | Photo Credit: Handout/email


As many as 702 pass out from Helicopter Training School
Eight Indian Navy pilots and one Bangladesh Navy pilot were awarded “wings” at the passing-out parade held to mark the graduation of pilots of the 89th Helicopter Conversion Course at Naval Air Station, Rajali, Arakkonam, on Thursday.

Rear Admiral Alok Bhatnagar, Flag Officer, Tamil Nadu and Puducherry Naval Area, reviewed the parade.

He awarded the Governor of Kerala Rolling Trophy to Lieutenant Ankur Jangra for being adjudged as the Best All Round Trainee Pilot. The Flag Officer Commanding-in-Chief, Eastern Naval Command Rolling Trophy was presented to Lieutenant Ankur Jangra for standing first in order of merit.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/nation...bangladesh-navy-get-wings/article21666875.ece
 

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INS Vikrant To Join The Indian Navy By The End Of 2020
The majestic aircraft carrier ship will be powered by a number of additions like gas turbines and diesel generators

Mumbai


India’s first homegrown aircraft carrier ship, INS Vikrant will join the navy by 2020 according to the country’s top naval officer. The news was revealed at his annual press conference on December 4, ahead of India’s Navy Day. Sunil Lamba said that the indigenous aircraft carrier is progressing well at work and was hopeful of it joining the Indian Navy by 2020.


History of INS Vikrant
The construction of the majestic INS Vikrant (R11) commenced around the turn of the century and has been a long time in making. After its soft launch in 2013, the construction continued and the ship was not officially launched until about two years after that. Around the time of the 2015 launching, Indian media reports suggested the INS Vikrant would join the navy as early as 2017 or 2018.


What does INS Vikrant look like?
The INS Vikrant weighs 40,000-tons, with a length of 260 meters and a width of 60 meters. Earlier this year, a reporter from The Hindu who toured the ship quoted one of the shipyard’s supervisors as saying the carrier has 14 decks in all, including five in the superstructure.


How will INS Vikrant be powered?
The ship will be powered by four GE LM2500+ gas turbines using a combined gas and gas configuration, according to IHS Jane’s. Italy’s aircraft carrier, the ITS Cavour, also uses four LM2500+ gas turbines as part of its propulsion system. Diesel generators will provide electricity to the ship and power the weapon systems of the INS Vikrant.

https://www.mumbailive.com/en/civic...he-end-of-2020-according-to-sunil-lamba-18497
 

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GSL delivers fuel barge to Indian navy
The fuel barge has primary role of replenishing low speed and high speed diesel and other oils for ships in harbour

GN Bureau | December 14, 2017




#GSL#PSU Indian Navy
Goa shipyard Limited (GSL) has delivered the second fuel barge to Indian Navy on December 2, 33 days ahead of contractual delivery schedule, and recently got inducted into the Navy.

Navy was in the need of self-propelled 1000Ton fuel barges, with a view to fuel big ships like INS Vikramaditya for a long time. This contract of construction of barges was signed between GSL and Indian Navy on June 4, Jun 2015. The first fuel barge was delivered on August 17 this year.

The fuel barge has primary role of replenishing low speed and high speed diesel (LSHSD), aviation fuel (AVCAT) and other oils for ships in harbour, at anchorage and even at distant location. It is powered with two 1,800 BHP engines to achieve the main role of fuel transfer.

The vessel has a novel hull design with bulbous bow and equipped with the state of art navigational aids like radar, DGPS and echo Sounder.

http://www.governancenow.com/news/psu/gsl-delivers-fuel-barge-to-indian-navy
 

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2017 is coming to an end . Its been almost 3 years now the official order of Project 17A was placed with MDL and GRSE, and 5 years the project was officially cleared by the Govt.

MDL was supposed to start construction "Early 2017", while GRSE in 2018. We are entering 2018 and there's not even any official news on the projects.

Thats what I see is the difference between India and China. India and China plan to construct something in the same year 20XX.
Five years later-
China - The ship is launched and will be commissioned in the next year
India - India has issued a tender for its Rotor blades, as it prepares to start construction.

Anyway, on a serious note, does anyone have any inside updates ?
 

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2017 is coming to an end . Its been almost 3 years now the official order of Project 17A was placed with MDL and GRSE, and 5 years the project was officially cleared by the Govt.

MDL was supposed to start construction "Early 2017", while GRSE in 2018. We are entering 2018 and there's not even any official news on the projects.

Thats what I see is the difference between India and China. India and China plan to construct something in the same year 20XX.
Five years later-
China - The ship is launched and will be commissioned in the next year
India - India has issued a tender for its Rotor blades, as it prepares to start construction.

Anyway, on a serious note, does anyone have any inside updates ?
Here is the news about Project 17A (October 28)

http://idrw.org/project-17a-grse-shows-final-design-of-indias-next-stealth-frigates/

Design has been finalised and construction will begin in early 2018
 

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Facing Challenge At Sea, Navy Embarks On Long Road To Upgrade Chopper Fleet



Navy’s push for 24 multi-role helicopters worth Rs 10,000 crore is aimed at adding more air power

India came very close to hammering out a deal for 16 Sikorsky S-70B Seahawks a year ago but the negotiations fell through due to price issues.

The navy is preparing a fresh case for buying new multi-role helicopters (MRH) after failed attempts to fill a key area of deficiency in its capabilities, a senior navy officer said.

The MRH is expected to be the future mainstay of the navy’s anti-submarine, anti-ship warfare and airborne early-warning capabilities that have seen a worrying and persistent deterioration over the last decade.

The new push for 24 MRH worth over Rs 10,000 crore is aimed at replacing the Sea King 42/42A helicopters that were retired almost around two decades ago.

“The replacement is overdue. It was around 15 years ago that the navy moved a case to get new MRH. It’s a very crucial operational requirement,” said vice admiral (Retd) Shekhar Sinha, a naval aviator and former Western Naval Command chief.

The Sea King 42/42A models came with aircraft carrier INS Viraat. Bought from the UK, the Viraat was commissioned as the navy’s second carrier in 1987 and retired last year.

The navy came very close to hammering out a deal for 16 Sikorsky S-70B Seahawks a year ago, but the negotiations fell through, forcing the project to return to the drawing board. The takeover of Sikorsky Aircraft by Lockheed Martin affected price negotiations as the defence ministry’s commercial negotiation committee had to deal with a new management, navy sources said.

Shortage of MRH has forced the navy to ration its helicopter resources. “The navy has to beg, borrow and steal to keep the show going,” Sinha said.

It is unclear at this stage what course the navy will take to purchase the new helicopters — whether it will go in for a government-to-government (G2G) deal or float a global tender.

Sources said the US administration has offered the S-70B Seahawk to India under a G2G deal, also known as the foreign military sales programme.

A G2G deal is a contract between two governments that does away with the need to float a tender. Such transactions may be complicated in their conception and execution but are more transparent to financial scrutiny.

Apart from MRH, the navy needs to invest thousands of crores to buy naval utility helicopters (NUH) and naval multi-role helicopters (NMRH).

The navy requires 111 NUH to replace its outdated fleet of French-designed Chetak choppers. A fresh effort to buy these ship-borne utility helicopters got underway in October, with the defence ministry according its “acceptance of necessity” (AoN) to a Rs 21,738-crore programme to replace the Chetaks.

The AoN is only the first step towards buying a weapon or platform in a complex acquisition procedure that can sometimes take up to a decade to translate into a final contract.

“I don’t think AoN is a big deal. There are several programmes that were granted AoN years ago but we are nowhere close to buying those weapons and systems,” said another senior navy officer on condition of anonymity.

What’s worrying is that the majority of India’s 140 warships are operating without integral utility helicopters. These five-tonne class choppers are used for several purposes, including search and rescue operations, medical evacuation, anti-piracy and anti-terrorism operations, communication duties, humanitarian assistance and surveillance.

The US, European and Russian suppliers are expected to compete for the NUH programme by stitching up alliances with Indian firms under the government’s ‘strategic partnership’ model.

Sixteen of the choppers will be bought in flyaway condition from a foreign military contractor, and the remaining 95 will be locally built in partnership with an Indian firm.
Up in the Air
  • Navy pushing case to buy new multi-role helicopters (MRH) worth more than Rs 10,000 crore
  • The fresh push for 24 MRH is aimed at replacing Sea King 42/42A helicopters that were retired almost two decades ago
  • Navy plans to induct 111 naval utility helicopters (NUH) to replace French-designed Chetaks at a cost of Rs 21,738 crore
  • If India were to clinch the NUH deal today, the last of the 111 twin-engine choppers will still take 13 years to arrive
  • The majority of India’s 140 warships are operating without integral utility helicopters
  • Plans to buy 123 naval multi-role choppers still on the drawing board

The navy had released two requests for information for 123 NMRH and 111 NUH this August, seeking details to build the helicopters in the country.

Naval helicopters come with special modifications such as foldable blades for shipboard storage, wheeled landing gear and airframe resistant to salt water corrosion.

Building capability can take years and if decisions are not taken on time, the military suffers. If India were to clinch the NUH deal today, the last of the 111 twin-engine choppers will still take 13 years to arrive.

An older plan to import 56 NUH was scrapped as the government wanted to pursue the programme under the Make in India banner. Besides, the navy had modified its requirements.

Similarly, a previous NMRH tender for 126 helicopters was withdrawn to power the Make in India plan. The NMRH project is expected to move forward under the ‘strategic partnership’ model at a later juncture. The NMRH mission range covers anti-submarine warfare, anti-ship warfare, electronic warfare and carrying marine commandos — roles performed by the navy’s Sea King 42B/42C variants.

Naval helicopter programmes have to be accelerated to overcome shortcomings and keep the force mission ready, said BS Randhawa, a retired vice admiral.

“Remember submarine and surface activity, including Chinese presence, has risen sharply in the Indian Ocean region,” Randhawa said.

“If a warship is not armed with choppers, it’s a serious capability gap. These choppers are a potent part of a vessel in terms of extending its range and overall capabilities for anti-submarine and anti-ship warfare,” a top navy officer said.

The navy also operates a mix of 20 Russian-made Kamov-28 and Kamov-31 helicopters for anti-submarine warfare and electronic warfare respectively. The Kamov-28 fleet is undergoing a midlife upgrade at a cost of Rs 2,000 crore.

Source>>

Indiandefense News at Sunday, December 17, 2017
 

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Facing Challenge At Sea, Navy Embarks On Long Road To Upgrade Chopper Fleet



Navy’s push for 24 multi-role helicopters worth Rs 10,000 crore is aimed at adding more air power

India came very close to hammering out a deal for 16 Sikorsky S-70B Seahawks a year ago but the negotiations fell through due to price issues.

The navy is preparing a fresh case for buying new multi-role helicopters (MRH) after failed attempts to fill a key area of deficiency in its capabilities, a senior navy officer said.

The MRH is expected to be the future mainstay of the navy’s anti-submarine, anti-ship warfare and airborne early-warning capabilities that have seen a worrying and persistent deterioration over the last decade.

The new push for 24 MRH worth over Rs 10,000 crore is aimed at replacing the Sea King 42/42A helicopters that were retired almost around two decades ago.

“The replacement is overdue. It was around 15 years ago that the navy moved a case to get new MRH. It’s a very crucial operational requirement,” said vice admiral (Retd) Shekhar Sinha, a naval aviator and former Western Naval Command chief.

The Sea King 42/42A models came with aircraft carrier INS Viraat. Bought from the UK, the Viraat was commissioned as the navy’s second carrier in 1987 and retired last year.

The navy came very close to hammering out a deal for 16 Sikorsky S-70B Seahawks a year ago, but the negotiations fell through, forcing the project to return to the drawing board. The takeover of Sikorsky Aircraft by Lockheed Martin affected price negotiations as the defence ministry’s commercial negotiation committee had to deal with a new management, navy sources said.

Shortage of MRH has forced the navy to ration its helicopter resources. “The navy has to beg, borrow and steal to keep the show going,” Sinha said.

It is unclear at this stage what course the navy will take to purchase the new helicopters — whether it will go in for a government-to-government (G2G) deal or float a global tender.

Sources said the US administration has offered the S-70B Seahawk to India under a G2G deal, also known as the foreign military sales programme.

A G2G deal is a contract between two governments that does away with the need to float a tender. Such transactions may be complicated in their conception and execution but are more transparent to financial scrutiny.

Apart from MRH, the navy needs to invest thousands of crores to buy naval utility helicopters (NUH) and naval multi-role helicopters (NMRH).

The navy requires 111 NUH to replace its outdated fleet of French-designed Chetak choppers. A fresh effort to buy these ship-borne utility helicopters got underway in October, with the defence ministry according its “acceptance of necessity” (AoN) to a Rs 21,738-crore programme to replace the Chetaks.

The AoN is only the first step towards buying a weapon or platform in a complex acquisition procedure that can sometimes take up to a decade to translate into a final contract.

“I don’t think AoN is a big deal. There are several programmes that were granted AoN years ago but we are nowhere close to buying those weapons and systems,” said another senior navy officer on condition of anonymity.

What’s worrying is that the majority of India’s 140 warships are operating without integral utility helicopters. These five-tonne class choppers are used for several purposes, including search and rescue operations, medical evacuation, anti-piracy and anti-terrorism operations, communication duties, humanitarian assistance and surveillance.

The US, European and Russian suppliers are expected to compete for the NUH programme by stitching up alliances with Indian firms under the government’s ‘strategic partnership’ model.

Sixteen of the choppers will be bought in flyaway condition from a foreign military contractor, and the remaining 95 will be locally built in partnership with an Indian firm.
Up in the Air
  • Navy pushing case to buy new multi-role helicopters (MRH) worth more than Rs 10,000 crore
  • The fresh push for 24 MRH is aimed at replacing Sea King 42/42A helicopters that were retired almost two decades ago
  • Navy plans to induct 111 naval utility helicopters (NUH) to replace French-designed Chetaks at a cost of Rs 21,738 crore
  • If India were to clinch the NUH deal today, the last of the 111 twin-engine choppers will still take 13 years to arrive
  • The majority of India’s 140 warships are operating without integral utility helicopters
  • Plans to buy 123 naval multi-role choppers still on the drawing board
The navy had released two requests for information for 123 NMRH and 111 NUH this August, seeking details to build the helicopters in the country.

Naval helicopters come with special modifications such as foldable blades for shipboard storage, wheeled landing gear and airframe resistant to salt water corrosion.

Building capability can take years and if decisions are not taken on time, the military suffers. If India were to clinch the NUH deal today, the last of the 111 twin-engine choppers will still take 13 years to arrive.

An older plan to import 56 NUH was scrapped as the government wanted to pursue the programme under the Make in India banner. Besides, the navy had modified its requirements.

Similarly, a previous NMRH tender for 126 helicopters was withdrawn to power the Make in India plan. The NMRH project is expected to move forward under the ‘strategic partnership’ model at a later juncture. The NMRH mission range covers anti-submarine warfare, anti-ship warfare, electronic warfare and carrying marine commandos — roles performed by the navy’s Sea King 42B/42C variants.

Naval helicopter programmes have to be accelerated to overcome shortcomings and keep the force mission ready, said BS Randhawa, a retired vice admiral.

“Remember submarine and surface activity, including Chinese presence, has risen sharply in the Indian Ocean region,” Randhawa said.

“If a warship is not armed with choppers, it’s a serious capability gap. These choppers are a potent part of a vessel in terms of extending its range and overall capabilities for anti-submarine and anti-ship warfare,” a top navy officer said.

The navy also operates a mix of 20 Russian-made Kamov-28 and Kamov-31 helicopters for anti-submarine warfare and electronic warfare respectively. The Kamov-28 fleet is undergoing a midlife upgrade at a cost of Rs 2,000 crore.

Source>>

Indiandefense News at Sunday, December 17, 2017
I don't understand how the cost of choppers is 450 crore per unit. Even the upgrade of Ka28 is at 100 crore per unit.

These are excessive cost
 

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Facing Challenge At Sea, Navy Embarks On Long Road To Upgrade Chopper Fleet



Navy’s push for 24 multi-role helicopters worth Rs 10,000 crore is aimed at adding more air power

India came very close to hammering out a deal for 16 Sikorsky S-70B Seahawks a year ago but the negotiations fell through due to price issues.

The navy is preparing a fresh case for buying new multi-role helicopters (MRH) after failed attempts to fill a key area of deficiency in its capabilities, a senior navy officer said.

The MRH is expected to be the future mainstay of the navy’s anti-submarine, anti-ship warfare and airborne early-warning capabilities that have seen a worrying and persistent deterioration over the last decade.

The new push for 24 MRH worth over Rs 10,000 crore is aimed at replacing the Sea King 42/42A helicopters that were retired almost around two decades ago.

“The replacement is overdue. It was around 15 years ago that the navy moved a case to get new MRH. It’s a very crucial operational requirement,” said vice admiral (Retd) Shekhar Sinha, a naval aviator and former Western Naval Command chief.

The Sea King 42/42A models came with aircraft carrier INS Viraat. Bought from the UK, the Viraat was commissioned as the navy’s second carrier in 1987 and retired last year.

The navy came very close to hammering out a deal for 16 Sikorsky S-70B Seahawks a year ago, but the negotiations fell through, forcing the project to return to the drawing board. The takeover of Sikorsky Aircraft by Lockheed Martin affected price negotiations as the defence ministry’s commercial negotiation committee had to deal with a new management, navy sources said.

Shortage of MRH has forced the navy to ration its helicopter resources. “The navy has to beg, borrow and steal to keep the show going,” Sinha said.

It is unclear at this stage what course the navy will take to purchase the new helicopters — whether it will go in for a government-to-government (G2G) deal or float a global tender.

Sources said the US administration has offered the S-70B Seahawk to India under a G2G deal, also known as the foreign military sales programme.

A G2G deal is a contract between two governments that does away with the need to float a tender. Such transactions may be complicated in their conception and execution but are more transparent to financial scrutiny.

Apart from MRH, the navy needs to invest thousands of crores to buy naval utility helicopters (NUH) and naval multi-role helicopters (NMRH).

The navy requires 111 NUH to replace its outdated fleet of French-designed Chetak choppers. A fresh effort to buy these ship-borne utility helicopters got underway in October, with the defence ministry according its “acceptance of necessity” (AoN) to a Rs 21,738-crore programme to replace the Chetaks.

The AoN is only the first step towards buying a weapon or platform in a complex acquisition procedure that can sometimes take up to a decade to translate into a final contract.

“I don’t think AoN is a big deal. There are several programmes that were granted AoN years ago but we are nowhere close to buying those weapons and systems,” said another senior navy officer on condition of anonymity.

What’s worrying is that the majority of India’s 140 warships are operating without integral utility helicopters. These five-tonne class choppers are used for several purposes, including search and rescue operations, medical evacuation, anti-piracy and anti-terrorism operations, communication duties, humanitarian assistance and surveillance.

The US, European and Russian suppliers are expected to compete for the NUH programme by stitching up alliances with Indian firms under the government’s ‘strategic partnership’ model.

Sixteen of the choppers will be bought in flyaway condition from a foreign military contractor, and the remaining 95 will be locally built in partnership with an Indian firm.
Up in the Air
  • Navy pushing case to buy new multi-role helicopters (MRH) worth more than Rs 10,000 crore
  • The fresh push for 24 MRH is aimed at replacing Sea King 42/42A helicopters that were retired almost two decades ago
  • Navy plans to induct 111 naval utility helicopters (NUH) to replace French-designed Chetaks at a cost of Rs 21,738 crore
  • If India were to clinch the NUH deal today, the last of the 111 twin-engine choppers will still take 13 years to arrive
  • The majority of India’s 140 warships are operating without integral utility helicopters
  • Plans to buy 123 naval multi-role choppers still on the drawing board
The navy had released two requests for information for 123 NMRH and 111 NUH this August, seeking details to build the helicopters in the country.

Naval helicopters come with special modifications such as foldable blades for shipboard storage, wheeled landing gear and airframe resistant to salt water corrosion.

Building capability can take years and if decisions are not taken on time, the military suffers. If India were to clinch the NUH deal today, the last of the 111 twin-engine choppers will still take 13 years to arrive.

An older plan to import 56 NUH was scrapped as the government wanted to pursue the programme under the Make in India banner. Besides, the navy had modified its requirements.

Similarly, a previous NMRH tender for 126 helicopters was withdrawn to power the Make in India plan. The NMRH project is expected to move forward under the ‘strategic partnership’ model at a later juncture. The NMRH mission range covers anti-submarine warfare, anti-ship warfare, electronic warfare and carrying marine commandos — roles performed by the navy’s Sea King 42B/42C variants.

Naval helicopter programmes have to be accelerated to overcome shortcomings and keep the force mission ready, said BS Randhawa, a retired vice admiral.

“Remember submarine and surface activity, including Chinese presence, has risen sharply in the Indian Ocean region,” Randhawa said.

“If a warship is not armed with choppers, it’s a serious capability gap. These choppers are a potent part of a vessel in terms of extending its range and overall capabilities for anti-submarine and anti-ship warfare,” a top navy officer said.

The navy also operates a mix of 20 Russian-made Kamov-28 and Kamov-31 helicopters for anti-submarine warfare and electronic warfare respectively. The Kamov-28 fleet is undergoing a midlife upgrade at a cost of Rs 2,000 crore.

Source>>

Indiandefense News at Sunday, December 17, 2017
Is there a alternative HAL helicopter unit can provide to the Indian Navy or is there any thing planned to stop the future capabilities concern....
 

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Is there a alternative HAL helicopter unit can provide to the Indian Navy or is there any thing planned to stop the future capabilities concern....
There is one under development - IMRH.
 

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Is there a alternative HAL helicopter unit can provide to the Indian Navy or is there any thing planned to stop the future capabilities concern....
Naval Dhruv can be a possibility as NUH.
 

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I don't understand how the cost of choppers is 450 crore per unit. Even the upgrade of Ka28 is at 100 crore per unit.

These are excessive cost
These costs are not just the fly away cost of each helicopter. Included are maintenance contract, spares, weapons and supplies and training for Indian crew.
 

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Naval Dhruv can be a possibility as NUH.
The IN and the ICG love the Dhruv. Especially the Rudra variant for its advanced sensors and weapons package. The Dhruv is thoroughly reliable and was extensively used (still being used ) for SAR off the Western coast recently for Op Sahayam.

But there's a huge issue that prevents it from being used on board ships. The blades don't fold automatically. Deploy kaise karoge?!!!
 

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But there's a huge issue that prevents it from being used on board ships. The blades don't fold automatically. Deploy kaise karoge?!!!
So once it's blades are made foldable,it could be used for other roles as well.

What do you mean by automatically foldable blades,I have seen its blades folded.
 

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So once it's blades are made foldable,it could be used for other roles as well.

What do you mean by automatically foldable blades,I have seen its blades folded.
Automatically folded blades mean that they're powered hydraulically. A serviceman doesn't have to get a crane to manually fold them. Doing that on land where you have all the space you need is okay. Onboard ship, on the helo deck, with perhaps a sea state 4/5, that's just asking for trouble.
 

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