Indian Navy Developments & Discussions

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  1. Kshithij

    Kshithij Regular Member

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    BARAK-8 is the correct word to be used. It is cheap to change the name of a foreign missile.

    We should have more dignity and accept what is import as import instead of changing names to make it appear like an indigenous product
     
  2. TPFscopes

    TPFscopes Rest in Peace Senior Member

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    BARAK-8 is not an imported stuff.

    Barak 8 is also known as LR-SAM or as MR-SAM and It is jointly designed by IAI & DRDO.
    For India, it is produced by BDL while for Israel, It is produced by Rafael.
     
  3. Kshithij

    Kshithij Regular Member

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    MF STAR radar (most important part of missile defence) is Israeli. The seekers is also Israeli. Only the dumb part like launcher, propulsion is indian. It is important to have the MF STAR radar indigenous manufacturing for BARAK-8 to be indian.
     
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    TPFscopes Rest in Peace Senior Member

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    It was about Missile not Air defense system. Anyways Indian Army don't have MF-STAR..
    And SR-SAM,MR-SAM and LR-SAM are the category of SAMs not the Name.

    [​IMG]
     
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  5. MKM

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    Oh god, I always thought 32 LRSAM in front.
    BTW Isn't strange it has only 16 LRSAM while occupying much more space than 16 BrahMos
     
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  6. undeadmyrmidon

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    32 future SRSAM/16 Nirbhay...............................
     
  7. Kshithij

    Kshithij Regular Member

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    The problem with nirbhay type slow missile was seen in 1971 war where pakistan discovered that such missile can be shot down by machine gun fire.

    AK630 was also based on similar logic. The only way to defeat such simple methods of self defense is by using brahmos.
     
  8. TPFscopes

    TPFscopes Rest in Peace Senior Member

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    Rear based VLS
    [​IMG]
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    Hope you have no Idea about the difference btw LR MR & SR SAM
     
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  9. aditya10r

    aditya10r Mera Bharat mahan Senior Member

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    How many Nirbhay can be plonked on Kolkata class vessel.?????????

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  10. TPFscopes

    TPFscopes Rest in Peace Senior Member

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    If IN want to have Nirbhay LACM on Kolkata class Destroyers than they have to replace some BrahMos LACM. At present there is no plan to increase missile on it. Even Project P15B (Vishakhapattanam Class) will have 16 VLS for BrahMos and 32 for SAMs (which is 16 on P15A i.e. Kolkata Class)
     
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  11. undeadmyrmidon

    undeadmyrmidon Regular Member

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    It's just as fast as P 15, the same missile the fucked them in 1971.
     
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  12. binayak95

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    There has never been any single case of an AShM being shot down by the target ship in combat situation. Add to that the fact that most missiles nowadays use terminal manoeuvring and supersonic sprints to give the target least possible reaction time means that successfully shooting down of AShM is very difficult.

    I would place some trust in the Barak 8 simply because the Isrealis have demonstrated terminal air defence with Iron Dome.

    And I believe India shared some of Brahmos specs with them during development; the Israelis wished to counter the Yakhont inducted by Egypt and Syria.
     
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  13. TPFscopes

    TPFscopes Rest in Peace Senior Member

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    Oops my bad,
    Both p15a and p15b have same number of missile but the difference will be the launcher type.

    P15a have VLS for SAM and UVLM for BrahMos but in p15b all the missiles will be fitted into a Universal Vertical Launcher Module (UVLM).
     
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    Was about to point this out. A UVLS has been developed for Barak-8/Brahmos/Nirbhay with significantly greater number of cells and thus far greater flexibility of mission payloads.

    And a 127mm Oto melara cannon, instead of the 76 one
     
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  15. Kshithij

    Kshithij Regular Member

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    Missiles of different weights and dimensions can be fired from same launcher? Incredible.
     
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    TPFscopes Rest in Peace Senior Member

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    P-15A will use BrahMos (0.52m) , Nirbhay (0.5m)and Barak-8ER(LRSAM) 0.54m dia. . only length varies in large numbers but not diameter .

    Hence these all can be configured for one type of UVLM.
     
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    Defence Acquisitions Council, chaired by @nsitharaman, approves proposal for over 260 Software-defined Radio ( Naval Communications) sets under ‘Buy India’ for Rs 490 crore

     
  18. Kshithij

    Kshithij Regular Member

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    Great development. SDR is ultra wideband and is jamproof. But, 2 crore per unit? That is extremely expensive.
     
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  19. Vinod DX9

    Vinod DX9 Regular Member

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    Now, that's a game changer....

    Along with, another good news
     
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    P15A uses normal Brahmos 650 mm diameter. No Capital ship will use the Brahmos-M (0.52 mm). Those are meant to replace the Uran type subsonic missiles on Corvettes etc.
     

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