Indian Navy Developments & Discussions

[Chinmoy]

Defense News needs a basic mathematician I guess. Or a calculator maybe.

Or it might have quoted the overall cost of 2 years back. INR was pegged at 69 against 1$ at that time I think.

 

[Kshatriya87]

Or it might have quoted the overall cost of 2 years back. INR was pegged at 69 against 1$ at that time I think.

Then $1 billion should be Rs. 6900 crores. Not Rs. 725 crores.

 

[Kshatriya87]

Or it might have quoted the overall cost of 2 years back. INR was pegged at 69 against 1$ at that time I think.

Then $1 billion should be Rs. 6900 crores. Not Rs. 725 crores.

 

[Chinmoy]

Then $1 billion should be Rs. 6900 crores. Not Rs. 725 crores.

In layman term, 1 billion = 100 crore. It means 700 crore = 7 billion.

 

[Kshatriya87]

In layman term, 1 billion = 100 crore. It means 700 crore = 7 billion.

1 billion = 100 crores

1 billion rupees = 100 crore rupees

1 billion USD = 100 crores X 69 rupees = 6900 crore rupees.

 

[bhramos]

Picture of India’s first 1500 Cr worth VC 11184 ocean surveillance ship Surfaces

The first image of Hindustan Shipyard Limited (HSL) developed VC 11184 ocean surveillance ship ordered by Ministry of Defence for studies in Oceans has surfaced recently. VC 11184 was floated out last April by HSL and now is currently going through the fitting-out process. VC 11184 will be operated by Indian Navy and NTRO and will be used to carry acoustic equipment, underwater listening devices and other extensive suites of navigation, communications, command and control equipment. Any other possible usage of the vessel has not been disclosed and the cover provided is that it will be used to study routine hydro-graphic application, but NTRO which is India’s technical intelligence agency been one of the operators of the vessel it mostly likely will be used to collect underwater acoustical information. Ship designated VC 11184 order was finalized in 2014 and negotiation began from 2012 onwards Ministry of Defence for studies in Oceans with Hindustan Shipyard Limited (HSL) after it got merged with the Ministry of Defence in 2010. VC 11184 is nearly 175 metres in length and will have Displacement of 10,000 tonnes and has a similar dimension in comparison to INS Jalashwa amphibious transport dock operated by Indian Navy.
idrw.org . Read more at India No 1 Defence News Website , Kindly don't paste our work in other websites http://idrw.org/picture-of-indias-first-1500-cr-worth-vc-11184-ocean-surveillance-ship-surfaces/ .

 

[Chinmoy]

IIT students may give the Indian Navy its next big thing: an intelligent unmanned submarine

https://qz.com/889388/iit-students-may-give-the-indian-navy-its-next-big-thing-an-intelligent-unmanned-submarine/

 

[WolfPack86]

It's Official: Indian Navy Wants 57 Carrier-borne Fighters.
https://twitter.com/livefist?lang=en

 

[Kshatriya87]

IIT students may give the Indian Navy its next big thing: an intelligent unmanned submarine

https://qz.com/889388/iit-students-...-big-thing-an-intelligent-unmanned-submarine/

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Since the size is so small, they might as well make it stealth.

 

[Chinmoy]

Since the size is so small, they might as well make it stealth.

It seems small in pic, but remember that shooting torpedo is also one of its area of function. It means no where it is small as it seems to be .

 

[kunal1123]

A fire was reported on board a brand new Indian naval warship..

 

[Adioz]

Since the size is so small, they might as well make it stealth.

Pardon my ignorance, but what relation does size have on the acoustic levels of a submarine? AFAIK, extensive use of sound absorbing material on-board a submarine tends to increase the size of the submarine.

 

[Abhi9]

Tropex exercise pic compilation....launch of brahmos from Ins Chennai

 

[WolfPack86]

Rejecting the LCA Naval Fighter Jet - Don't blame the Indian Navy
The peremptory rejection of the shipborne variant of Tejas light combat aircraft (LCA) by the Indian Navy (IN) seems to have surprised most navy-watching analysts. Their confusion has been compounded by the near-simultaneous issuance of a global request for information (RFI) for procurement of “57 multirole fighters for its aircraft carriers” by Naval HQ. One can deduce two compelling reasons for this, seemingly, radical volte face by the only service which has shown unswerving commitment to indigenisation (lately labelled ‘Make in India’) for the past six decades.

Firstly, by exercising a foreclosure option, the IN has administered a well-deserved and stinging rebuke to the Defence Research & Development Organisation (DRDO) for its lethargic and inept performance that has again disappointed our military. The second reason arises from the navy’s desperate hurry to freeze the specifications of its second indigenous aircraft carrier (dubbed IAC-2). The choice of configuration, size and propulsion of a carrier has a direct linkage with the type of aircraft that will operate from it. This constitutes a ‘chicken and egg’ conundrum — should one freeze the carrier design first or choose the aircraft first? The IN has, obviously decided the latter.

The IAC-2 will enter service, in the next decade, at a juncture where a balance-of-power struggle is likely to be under way in this part of the world — with China and India as the main players. It is only a matter of time before China’s carrier task-forces, led by the ex-Russian carrier Liaoning and her successors, follow its nuclear submarines into the Indian Ocean. Since the Indian response to such intimidation will need to be equally robust, the decisions relating to the design and capabilities of IAC-2 (and sisters) assume strategic dimensions. Essentially, there are three options for selection of aircraft for the IAC-2.


Ø Conventional take-off and landing types like the US F/A-18 Super Hornet and French Rafale-M that would require a steam catapult for launch and arrester-wires for recovery. The relatively large ship would need either a steam or nuclear plant for propulsion.

Ø Types like the Russian Sukhoi-33 and MiG-29K would require only a ski-jump for take-off and arrester-wires for landing. This would mean a smaller ship, driven either by gas turbines or diesel engines. The LCA (Navy) could have been a contender in this category.

Ø The F-35B Lightning II version of the US Joint Strike Fighter, capable of vectored-thrust, would require only a ski-jump for take-off, but no arrester wires since it can land vertically. This would result in the simplest and cheapest ship; a short take-off and vertical landing (STOVL) carrier.


Once the IN has selected an aircraft, the ship and its operating and maintenance facilities can be designed around it avoiding some of the pitfalls encountered on IAC-1.

Reverting to the LCA saga — as far back as the early 1990s, the navy had initiated a study for examining the feasibility of adapting the LCA to shipborne use. While confirming feasibility, the study had revealed some major problem areas, which included lack of engine thrust, requirement of an arrester hook and stronger undercarriage, and need for cockpit/fuselage re-design before the LCA could attempt carrier operations. Undaunted, the Navy re-affirmed its faith in the programme by contributing over Rs 400 crore as well as engineers and test pilots to the project.

The IAF accepted the Tejas into service, in July 2016, with considerable reservations because it had not been cleared for full operational exploitation and fell short of many IAF qualitative requirements. The prototype of LCA (Navy) had rolled out six years earlier, in July 2010, raising great hopes in the IN. However, it is obvious that the DRDO failed to address the problems listed above with any urgency, leading to ultimate rejection of this ambitious project.

By its failure to deliver on the LCA (Navy), the DRDO has let down its most steadfast supporter amongst the armed forces — the navy. A little introspection by those at the helm of this organisation would reveal to them three reasons for its abysmal performance despite a wealth of talent and a network of sophisticated laboratories — an exaggerated opinion of their capabilities; a lack of intellectual honesty in denying obvious failures and an unwillingness to seek external help when required.

Today, India has the ignominious distinction of being the world’s biggest importer of military hardware, whereas China counts amongst the world’s leading arms exporters and its aeronautical establishment has delivered aircraft ranging from UAVs to 5th generation fighters, helicopters and transports to the PLA.

While one would be justified in blaming the scientists and bureaucrats responsible for defence research and production, the root cause of this colossal failure lies in political indifference and the inability to provide vision and firm guidance to our massive but under-performing military-industrial complex.
http://www.defencenews.in/article.aspx?id=250339

 

[Prashant12]

Indian Navy officer Captain DK Sharma Reports TROPEX- 2017 Live on board INS Vikramaditya

 

[MKM]

1 billion = 100 crores

1 billion rupees = 100 crore rupees

1 billion USD = 100 crores X 69 rupees = 6900 crore rupees.

Picture of India’s first 1500 Cr worth VC 11184 ocean surveillance ship Surfaces

The first image of Hindustan Shipyard Limited (HSL) developed VC 11184 ocean surveillance ship ordered by Ministry of Defence for studies in Oceans has surfaced recently. VC 11184 was floated out last April by HSL and now is currently going through the fitting-out process. VC 11184 will be operated by Indian Navy and NTRO and will be used to carry acoustic equipment, underwater listening devices and other extensive suites of navigation, communications, command and control equipment. Any other possible usage of the vessel has not been disclosed and the cover provided is that it will be used to study routine hydro-graphic application, but NTRO which is India’s technical intelligence agency been one of the operators of the vessel it mostly likely will be used to collect underwater acoustical information. Ship designated VC 11184 order was finalized in 2014 and negotiation began from 2012 onwards Ministry of Defence for studies in Oceans with Hindustan Shipyard Limited (HSL) after it got merged with the Ministry of Defence in 2010. VC 11184 is nearly 175 metres in length and will have Displacement of 10,000 tonnes and has a similar dimension in comparison to INS Jalashwa amphibious transport dock operated by Indian Navy.
idrw.org . Read more at India No 1 Defence News Website , Kindly don't paste our work in other websites http://idrw.org/picture-of-indias-first-1500-cr-worth-vc-11184-ocean-surveillance-ship-surfaces/ .

It's cost is less than 100 million dollar so, ₹725 crores...

 

[kunal1123]

VK Saraswat Comes Down On Navy Selecting Grippen For LCA Navy

Hitting hard on the latest decision of the Indian Navy seeking to acquire 57 Gripen aircraft instead of the Naval variant of the indigenously grown Light Combat aircraft Tejas,Niti Ayog member and former head of DRDO, Dr. VK Saraswat today said lack of information had led to this foreign acquisition proposal.
Speaking at the inaugural function of the three-day international symposium connected with Aero India, Dr Saraswat said that the Mark II version of LCA and the Gripen carry the same engine and the same thrust power. ''It defied logic and people were less informed'' he said regretting the Naval choice for Gripen.''All kind of bad mouthing is hurled on us'' he said. Indian Navy had recently rejected LCA Naval variant and opted to go in for 57 Gripen aircraft for its air operations.
He said though countries speak about free market economy, when coming to transfer of technology some countries are selective. ''Even though we had signed the MTCR agreement, we will still be hit by technology denial by some countries which do not want India to get the latest technology''.
Dr Saraswat referring to the technological advances the country had made said that the time has come for India to collaborate strongly with the private sector which should also enhance its research and development spending. Only such collaborations would help India to get the latest technology well in time and with rightsize of investment.
With Inputs from Agencies

http://www.indiandefensenews.in/2017/02/vk-saraswat-comes-down-on-navy.html


do any of u have any info when navy selected gripen for it's air operation ............. is it out

 

[Kshatriya87]

INS Sarvekshak instals solar power system

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[Hemu Vikram Aditya]

INS Sarvekshak instals solar power system

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Does India Have any Naval Engines Or Radars
Is Ins Kolkata Having INDEGENIOUS Radar And Engine
Until and unless India Dosent INDEGENIZe In these two Core Technologies Its going to hurt them

 

[Willy2]

VK Saraswat Comes Down On Navy Selecting Grippen For LCA Navy

Hitting hard on the latest decision of the Indian Navy seeking to acquire 57 Gripen aircraft instead of the Naval variant of the indigenously grown Light Combat aircraft Tejas,Niti Ayog member and former head of DRDO, Dr. VK Saraswat today said lack of information had led to this foreign acquisition proposal.
Speaking at the inaugural function of the three-day international symposium connected with Aero India, Dr Saraswat said that the Mark II version of LCA and the Gripen carry the same engine and the same thrust power. ''It defied logic and people were less informed'' he said regretting the Naval choice for Gripen.''All kind of bad mouthing is hurled on us'' he said. Indian Navy had recently rejected LCA Naval variant and opted to go in for 57 Gripen aircraft for its air operations.
He said though countries speak about free market economy, when coming to transfer of technology some countries are selective. ''Even though we had signed the MTCR agreement, we will still be hit by technology denial by some countries which do not want India to get the latest technology''.
Dr Saraswat referring to the technological advances the country had made said that the time has come for India to collaborate strongly with the private sector which should also enhance its research and development spending. Only such collaborations would help India to get the latest technology well in time and with rightsize of investment.
With Inputs from Agencies

http://www.indiandefensenews.in/2017/02/vk-saraswat-comes-down-on-navy.html


do any of u have any info when navy selected gripen for it's air operation ............. is it out

Don't know why , but I don't really like this SAAB , Specially giving Gripen priority which going to be NG version will surely put doubt on Tejas quality in export market if we ever consider this . Tejas can surly send Gripens export ambition along with intention to replace all existing Mig 21 back to Sweden and can be great export success only if we shows the world that worlds 4th largest airwing trust it.
It will be very bad move , seems Rajib Gandhi era bureaucrats still lobbying for corrupt Sweden and it's 3rd class company whose contribution to Gripen even less that our Indigenous contribution in Tejas .
God sve our country from these mafias.