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experts please clarify...

These conditions that US places on Pakistan, turkey wrt the use of F16s, is it the same for EU countries like Netherlands or Switzerland?

More importantly, is Israel also tied up with these restrictions?

It doesn't seem to me like they are. Can India get such a deal too? With no strings attached ?
 

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experts please clarify...

These conditions that US places on Pakistan, turkey wrt the use of F16s, is it the same for EU countries like Netherlands or Switzerland?

More importantly, is Israel also tied up with these restrictions?

It doesn't seem to me like they are. Can India get such a deal too? With no strings attached ?
Strategic Partnership Model is not bound to have these conditions.
Whatever we signed under MII & SPM will be free from such restrictions.
 

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Boeing positions Block III Super Hornet to meet Indian requirements
Boeing has offered to build its twin-engine Super Hornet fighter aircraft in India if selected to meet Indian armed forces requirements.
In comments to Jane’s on 6 September, Dan Gillian, vice-president of Boeing Defense, Space & Security’s F/A-18 and E/A-18 programmes, confirmed that the US corporation is positioning the F/A-18E/F Block III Super Hornet to meet requirements in the Indian Navy (IN) and Indian Air Force (IAF).
The IN requirement for Multi-Role Carrier Borne Fighters (MRCBFs) is supported by a global request for information (RFI) issued in January 2017.
Incidentally the US Navy has also been offered the new Block III Superhornet which had earlier okayed the upgrades over the existing Block II. Tbe upgrades mainly focused on better network integratation through TTNT( Tactical Targeting Network Technology) and stealth.
The upgrades Included in Block 3 the Raytheon AN/APG-79 active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar, an Enclosed Weapon Pod (EWP) for stealth, an Elbit Systems large area display (LAD) ‘glass’ cockpit and next-generation avionics; an infrared search and track (IRST); ‘shoulder-mounted’ conformal fuel tanks (CFTs); Integrated Defensive Electronic Counter Measures (IDECM); and new General Electric F-414-400 enhanced engines.
Pictures -
1. Block III upgrades;


2. Block II IRST(incl in blk-III);


3. Elbit large cockpit display;


4. RCS reduction features;


5. New GPS Tx/Rx antenna with TTNT
 

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I watched this episode when it aired. There was a talk about SBTH or so I recall which puzzled me. Does anyone have any information about it?
 

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Boeing and HAL discuss building F/A-18 fighter

The Boeing Company (hereafter Boeing), which is a vying strongly to supply the Indian Navy with 57 “multi-role carrier borne fighters” (MRCBF), has entered talks with Hindustan Aeronautics (HAL) to explore the co-manufacture of its F/A-18E/F Super Hornet fighter in India, say credible sources in the defence ministry. Along with HAL, Boeing also intends to involve the Mahindra Group in building Super Hornets in India.

Boeing and HAL have already held exploratory discussions in Bengaluru in September and are scheduled to meet on Friday in Bengaluru for another round of talks. They will also finalise a “non-disclosure agreement” that binds all sides to keep their negotiations confidential.

Contacted for comments, a Boeing spokesperson responded: “HAL has been a key partner of Boeing for over two decades and today manufactures components for our commercial and defense platforms, including for the F/A-18 Super Hornet. We are continually exploring ways to expand that relationship. Needless to say, we cannot comment on specific discussions with our partners.”

The defence ministry and Mahindras did not respond to requests for comments. Boeing seeks to leverage HAL’s long experience in licence-producing aircraft in India, most recently the Hawk trainer, and Jaguar and Sukhoi-30MKI fighters; and to present the defence ministry with a clear plan for co-producing the Super Hornet in India with a high indigenous content.

Furthermore, Boeing’s partnership with HAL — which already has an airfield and manufacturing hangars in Bengaluru — would significantly reduce the price of each Super Hornet. In contrast, a vendor that partners a private Indian firm would need to factor aerospace infrastructure into its pricing. Boeing has already expressed public reservations about the private sector’s inexperience in aerospace. As Business Standard reported (September 8, Boeing flags inexperience of private sector ‘strategic partners’) Boeing India chief, Pratyush Kumar, stated in New Delhi that the Indian private sector is not yet capable of manufacturing complex military aircraft under transfer of technology (ToT).

Urging India to co-opt public and private enterprise, Kumar said he “could not find a single example [of successfully building an aircraft under ToT] where it was just the brand new private enterprise with limited aerospace experience. Look at Turkey, look at Japan, look at Brazil, look at multiple countries. In all cases there is a fine balancing act of co-opting the capabilities of both public and private enterprise.” Now Boeing is doing exactly that, by seeking to co-opt HAL and the Mahindra Group into co-producing Super Hornets.
 

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For the NUH program
The Dhruv is perfect , similar empty weight to the panther , a ton of extra payload and more internal fuel
The DRDO has already developed a dipping sonar and light torpedoe for ASW operations which the navy has approved
Plus the navy can make any modifications required and since we own the IP we are not reliant on other nations
HAL has begun offering PBL which ensures good serviceability
HAL has taken steps to make spares abundant
The navy already operates the dhrDh and has the experience
 

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Hope DRDO and HAL utilise the time available now to modify Dhruv to 4.5 ton category with automatically foldable blades, and other stuff the navy wants from this tender..

It is the quickest way of supplying these much needed replacement for the ageing cheetaks..

Any new designs will take a lot of time and more foreign involvement.
The navy has to be supporting of the dhDhr
The Dhruv outperforms the Airbus as565 in almost every way , and has a similar empty weight , it's max take of weight is more because the dhrDh can carry an extra ton of payload with its much more powerful shakthi engines
 

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Lol you quoted my post from 2014. Was wondering if I ever wrote that :D

Good news btw if IN indeed selects Dhruv for this contract.
The navy has to be supporting of the dhDhr
The Dhruv outperforms the Airbus as565 in almost every way , and has a similar empty weight , it's max take of weight is more because the dhrDh can carry an extra ton of payload with its much more powerful shakthi engines
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Hey any chance of seeing images of MIG-29 ks in INAS 300 White Tigers markings? I personally would love to see two more MIG-29 K squadrons.
 

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