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Scary stuff. Indian Navy MiG-29K's fuel drop-tank falls off after take-off from Visakhapatnam. No injuries.

  1. Shiv Aroor ‏@ShivAroor 1h1 hour agoNoida, India
    Disturbing sequence: MiG-29K takes off, one of its drop-tanks falls off & explodes on runway. Fighter gets airborne with 2nd tank. 2/n

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  2. Shiv Aroor ‏@ShivAroor 1h1 hour agoNoida, India
    Pilot ordered to fly out to sea and jettison 2nd drop tank. Tries. Malfunction. 2nd tank doesn't drop. Tries 4 times, doesn't happen. 3/n





  3. While returning for a landing attempt, the malfunctioning 2nd drop tank falls, crashing into car park near CISF quarters. Close shave. 4/n



  4. Shiv Aroor ‏@ShivAroor 1h1 hour agoNoida, India
    Pilot finally lands MiG-29K safely at Vizag. Investigation ordered. Extremely serious snag/malfunction, could have doomed aircraft. 5/5
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Disturbing sequence: MiG-29K takes off, one of its drop-tanks falls off & explodes on runway. Fighter gets airborne with 2nd tank. 2/n
 

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Thursday, August 6, 2009

NEW DELHI: In a bid to strengthen the Navy's capabilities to detect airborne and surface-based maritime threats, Government has approved the acquisition of five Russian Kamov-31 early warning choppers.

Defence Ministry officials said the Cabinet Committee of Security (CCS) at a meeting on Tuesday gave its approval for procuring these choppers, which can track 30-40 targets on ground and air simultaneously with its airborne electronic warfare radar, mou nted on the underbelly of the chopper.

The deal for the five choppers between India and Russia is expected to be signed in the next couple of months, they said.

Navy already has a fleet of nine Ka-31 helicopters, which are deployed on India's only aircraft carrier INS Virat and the Talwar Class Guided Missile frigates of the Navy.

They are also operated from Navy's shore based air stations.

To modernise its air arm, the Navy is on a look out for various types of helicopters including the 10 tonne class multi-role helicopters for which global tenders were released last year

The Hindu Business Line : Govt okays purchase of Russian copters
http://standforindia.com/navy-plans-induct-6-next-gen-missile-boats/
India planning to induct 6"next Gen Missile boats
 

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Here's the 2nd tank that fell into the CISF quarters parking lot at Vizag airport. Mercifully no injuries/damage.
Damn it whats that pit?
Explosion?

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Russia Supplies Indian Navy With Over 100 Engines MIG-29 Fighter Jets

Russia's United Engine Corporation has delivered over 100 turbojet engines for the Mikoyan MiG-29 (NATO reporting name Fulcrum) fighter aircraft used by the Indian Navy, the UEC said in a press release issued on Tuesday.
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— The RD-33MK turbojet engine is a modernized modification of the basic RD-33 engine installed on all versions of famous MiG-29 fighter jet. The engine has high thrust-to-weight ratio, low specific fuel consumption and is equipped with modern digital electronic management and control system.
"Chernyshev Moscow Machine-Building Enterprise [part of UEC] has manufactured and delivered over 100 RD-33MK turbojet engines for the Indian Navy. The deliveries were carried out within the earlier agreed contract between the Russian Aircraft Corporation MiG and the Indian Defense Ministry," the press release said.
UEC is a subsidiary company of the United Industrial Corporation, producing various engines including those for military and civil aviation.
http://www.indiandefensenews.in/2016/09/russia-supplies-indian-navy-with-over.html
 

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DRDO to salvage home-grown aircraft dumped by Indian Navy
Ajit Kumar Dubey New Delhi, Sunday, December 4, 2016
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HIGHLIGHTS

  • DRDO to work on home-grown aircraft dumped by Navy.
  • Navy Chief said that naval LCA did not meet his force's requirements.
  • LCA was home-made aircraft, Navy will now look for foreign-made planes.
Despite the Navy junking the aircraft carrier version of the home-grown Light Combat Aircraft, the DRDO would continue working on the plane to develop it into a naval variant of the indigenous fifth-generation Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA).
In a setback to Prime Minister Narendra Modi's Make in India programme in defence sector, Navy Chief Admiral Sunil Lanba had on Friday announced that naval LCA did not meet his force's requirements and it would look for a foreign-made plane.
"Despite the Navy junking our project, we would go ahead with developing the Naval LCA as a technology demonstrator. We will use the experience and learning for developing it into a fifthgeneration fighter plane," DRDO officials told Mail Today.
The DRDO is already working on the proposed Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft which will have the capabilities and strength of a fifth generation fighter and we would develop a naval variant of the plane using the experience of working on Naval LCA, they said.
NAVY TO SCOUT GLOBAL MARKETS
The Navy has been given permission by the Defence Ministry to scout global markets for an aircraft carrier-based fighter aircraft for its future requirements. The Naval LCA made its maiden flight in April 2012 and two prototypes are currently undergoing flying as part of the development.
The DRDO and Navy have also created a 'Shore-based Test Facility' for the development of the Naval LCA at the INS Hansa naval air base in Goa and the aircraft had been recently tested there.
"We will seek aircraft elsewhere which can operate on the aircraft carrier," Lanba had announced on Friday.
THE Navy currently operates Russian MiG-29K fighters from the aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya and which will also fly from the first Indigenous Aircraft Carrier (IAC) Vikrant once it enters service.
The MiG-29Ks were procured by India with the INS Vikramaditya and it is the only country in the world to operate the aircraft. Its maker Russia also does not use it in its Navy. A second IAC weighing 65,000 tonnes is currently in the design phase and the Navy Chief said that they would soon approach the government for approval. The Navy has also, so far, promised to help DRDO in developing its fifth-generation AMCA aircraft.
The IAF was also earlier reluctant to buy the LCA but due to continuous pressure by Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar, the Air Force agreed to buy around 80 more planes from Hindustan Aeronautics Limited, making it into a success story.
 

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"The Navy has been given permission by the Defence Ministry to scout global markets for an aircraft carrier-based fighter aircraft for its future requirements"

Thats how paid media works, if you know what I mean. The Defence ministry did not sanction any such purchases, nor any official tender. Infact they didn comment at all.
And who the hell even says the Navy junked Tejas? LOL
 

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"The Navy has been given permission by the Defence Ministry to scout global markets for an aircraft carrier-based fighter aircraft for its future requirements"

Thats how paid media works, if you know what I mean. The Defence ministry did not sanction any such purchases, nor any official tender. Infact they didn comment at all.
And who the hell even says the Navy junked Tejas? LOL
Adm Lanba said that Tejas doesn't meet the navy requirement in its current form and they are looking further beyond Mig-29K for Carrier based aircraft. But our media house and reporters and smart enough to see through and come up with any version they like.
 

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"The Navy has been given permission by the Defence Ministry to scout global markets for an aircraft carrier-based fighter aircraft for its future requirements"

Thats how paid media works, if you know what I mean. The Defence ministry did not sanction any such purchases, nor any official tender. Infact they didn comment at all.
And who the hell even says the Navy junked Tejas? LOL
Hmmmm, you do have a point....
 

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"The Navy has been given permission by the Defence Ministry to scout global markets for an aircraft carrier-based fighter aircraft for its future requirements"

Thats how paid media works, if you know what I mean. The Defence ministry did not sanction any such purchases, nor any official tender. Infact they didn comment at all.
And who the hell even says the Navy junked Tejas? LOL
Adm Lanba said that Tejas doesn't meet the navy requirement in its current form and they are looking further beyond Mig-29K for Carrier based aircraft. But our media house and reporters and smart enough to see through and come up with any version they like.
As Chinmoy said that the current form of Tejas doesnot meet the requirements of Navy as per them they do not see it meeting any time soon(in a decade even) therefore they are looking for an alternative.
Had this been IAF I would not have defended them but i am aware that IN has been patient and they were serious towards NLCA but ADA DRDO IAF factored in to the extent that such an statement had to come out in open.
 

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As Chinmoy said that the current form of Tejas doesnot meet the requirements of Navy as per them they do not see it meeting any time soon(in a decade even) therefore they are looking for an alternative.
Had this been IAF I would not have defended them but i am aware that IN has been patient and they were serious towards NLCA but ADA DRDO IAF factored in to the extent that such an statement had to come out in open.
"As Chinmoy said that the current form of Tejas doesnot meet the requirements of Navy"

Yes true. That was cleared by the Navy years ago, that they would go for the LCA mk2 with a more powerful engine, 2025 onwards. Naval LCA mk1 would be a test bed and to train pilots as well, and could also be used from Shore based facilities.

"as per them they do not see it meeting any time soon(in a decade even)"

And that part is the added masala part by Mr Pulkit and thats again how exactly Paid journalism works ;)
 

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With the Mig 29K's having a availability rate of 30 odd percent and INS Vikrant being ready by the end of the decade, the Navy cannot wait till 2025 for the LCA Mark-2. The Navy will have 12 to 15 Migs flying off 2 carriers. So the Navy seems to be going for a stop gap fighter before the 1st Mark 2 is ready in 2025.
 

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"As Chinmoy said that the current form of Tejas doesnot meet the requirements of Navy"

Yes true. That was cleared by the Navy years ago, that they would go for the LCA mk2 with a more powerful engine, 2025 onwards. Naval LCA mk1 would be a test bed and to train pilots as well, and could also be used from Shore based facilities.

"as per them they do not see it meeting any time soon(in a decade even)"

And that part is the added masala part by Mr Pulkit and thats again how exactly Paid journalism works ;)
I seriously do not understand why you think i mis quoted you .
I had your entire quote added in my post.

No Masala no Troll pure facts............


as per them they do not see it meeting any time soon(in a decade even)

You just now said by 2025 they will get the MK2 version that is 10 years from now correct.

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If they had that vision they would have already requested for a new aircraft earlier .
 

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With the Mig 29K's having a availability rate of 30 odd percent and INS Vikrant being ready by the end of the decade, the Navy cannot wait till 2025 for the LCA Mark-2. The Navy will have 12 to 15 Migs flying off 2 carriers. So the Navy seems to be going for a stop gap fighter before the 1st Mark 2 is ready in 2025.
1.The Navy was well aware of its Serviceability and High maintenance requirements before making the purchase.

2. Anyways, Serviceability can be improved during wartime by pouring in more manpower and money, which is not required during peacetime

3. Its not a imported toy store. - Bought the toy, and now i dont like it and i want a new toy for so called "Stop gap" - Btw this word is the new fashion in the Indian armed forces, used whenver they want to import and get bribes.

4. Im sure you know how long it takes to complete all the procedure to make an import? 36 Rafale MMRCA took 15 years(2001-2016) + 3 more years for deliveries to begin. = 18 years for 36 Jets.
Do the math.
 

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You just now said by 2025 they will get the MK2 version that is 10 years from now correct.

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If they had that vision they would have already requested for a new aircraft earlier .
What do you mean by that? ..........
 

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IN always going to buy an alternative aircraft this is nothing new and was known since 2012, MK1 was intended to fly along MIG-29k or any-other fighter from IN carriers, This was published back in 2010 by IN officers involve in Tejas Program.

What change suggested by new Admiral is that MK1 will not get privileged of operating from carrier heck not even fly under IN colors regardless its for training or front-line service.

The flavor he gave in his comment suggested to junk platform so does Infrastructure created for R&D to create India`s Naval aviation capabilities which are created based scientific as well as strategic supervisions of many Admirals and scientific advisers to GOI before him.

This sort of behavior also show our dear Admiral in bad light as almost same as the one of those IAF chiefs asking for urgent import in other words kickback to secure his personal life after retirement.
 

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IN always going to buy an alternative aircraft this is nothing new and was known since 2012, MK1 was intended to fly along MIG-29k or any-other fighter from IN carriers, This was published back in 2010 by IN officers involve in Tejas Program.

What change suggested by new Admiral is that MK1 will not get privileged of operating from carrier heck not even fly under IN colors regardless its for training or front-line service.

The flavor he gave in his comment suggested to junk platform so does Infrastructure created for R&D to create India`s Naval aviation capabilities which are created based scientific as well as strategic supervisions of many Admirals and scientific advisers to GOI before him.

This sort of behavior also show our dear Admiral in bad light as almost same as the one of those IAF chiefs asking for urgent import in other words kickback to secure his personal life after retirement.
Don't take it wrong or personal.
But this is first time, u have accepted we have issue with our officers (Not all, but few and those who are in command or major decision making).
Same issue is in all armed forces of india. U left behind army.
Ministers in india are more concerned that they get any project annouced in their home states, get re-elected next time based on it, hell with india's need
Firing on LOC, soldiers get's ambused, Traitors children getting govt jobs and Government busy in election of 1 state, hell with nation.
All infrastruture made, money invested..hell with that, need imported thing. just for kickbacks.
We reject indian made sights, Indian made Body armor or helmets, but when same things are used by foreign armies, we come out of sleeps.
Army, Airforce and navy chiefs at some point of another acted as agents for foreign companies than leaders leading armed forces of india.
If power is the issue, why LCA with T/W of 0.86 has been behind in induction that junk JF-17 with T/W of 0.82?
does this means that pokis support pak made ( in what ever propotion) that what we do to indian made things? why we lagged so behind porkis in fighter induction?...porkis have less money, junk brains etc..but they can take any military equipment and induct them far faster than we. They started after us in AWAC induction, but we have lagged behind them in numbers..they produce their own Anti-Aitr MANPADs, own Anti-tank missiles..import large number of Trainer aircrafts.

At least our enemy is clear in its mind that India is its enemy and how to deal with india, they are to stay with with that path by means of terrorism which is cheap for them and what are our plans?

Why we are so slow.
take example for Spider missiles, DEAL MADE IN 2008 and induction in 2017.
That F*CI< 9 years to finally start induction.
INSAS rifle, Helmets, Sights, Body armor etc..name a few.
 

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