Indian naval aerial arm will stretch Pakistani air force

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  1. sathya

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    Addition of Mig-29k in Indian naval arsenal has not only boosted Aviation arm of IN, but also has given serious headache to Pakistani navy and will stretch Pakistani air force in possible future conflicts.

    NATO described Mig-29k one of the best Naval fighter aircraft in the Asian region, It has been vindicated when Russian Navy decided to purchase them to replace their also Su 33 carrier fleet, with Indian navy already has shown interest in the delayed Lca Program and are already developing Naval variant of it, if Indian media reports are to be believed Navy to will take some aircrafts from Famous MMRCA competition, where French Rafale and European Euro fighter are in the race.

    IN with addition of Naval Lca and MMRCA aircraft will be force to reckon with in the region, while Pakistani navy on the other hand, other than traditional aircraft for Naval and anit submarine purpose is missing fighter aircrafts in its arsenal.

    Pakistani air force always been Hero for Pakistani military, but time again it has been accused for fighting its own war , classic examples can be lack of air support for Army tank regiment in Battle of Longewala, or attack on Karachi port and Naval ships , where PAF did not even attempted to intervene and fought its own war .

    Pakistani navy has to come out of Protection of PAF and induct its own aircraft in its arsenal , with JF-17 home grown production in full swing , Two or Three squadrons of Naval Variant of JF-17 should be developed and inducted in to Pakistani navy.

    Fighter aircraft’s are required , not only to protect coast of Pakistan, but also assets of Pakistani navy ,such has ships and land based installation , we cannot just afford repeat of 1971 bombing of our harbors .
     
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  3. arya

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    what is purpose to open a new thread ,

    well dont you think we are singing old song again and again

    dont you think we should think and work on lca2 , pakfa , mmrca

    i hope you will be agree with me we are lacking against them , we must have to do something
     
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    There is a big question mark about the 2 squadrons Pakistan will get when Chinese do not have enough engines for their own planes. By the time Pakistan get jf-17 from china the technology will belong in a museum.
     
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    leathal we should not underestimate china , our main problem is china - pak relation .

    we should increase our strength and relation with sl, nepal,bd

    we need base outside the country
     
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    This article hints a blockade of Karachi may be difficult in the future. I disagree it will be easier with 5th sukhoi upgrades air launched Brahmos and Nirbhay and the many frigates coming up. Also using warplanes to guard a port is not the best use of warplanes or a good military strategy.
     
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    What we really need to bring the fear of god into the PN is a squadron or two of TU-22M3's equipped with Airborne brahmos. Karachi harbor raid redux baby!
     
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    What will these warplanes do if we send UAV's against them first?? It is a silly and almost idiotic strategy leaving many gaps in defense.
     
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    take out whole of Karachi port in first wave that will take down Pakistani moral, rest we have to deal with PAF.
     
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    Give 4-5yrs, IN will be sporting some 300 aircrafts of its own. Couple of squadrons of NMRCA on Gujrat shores will make pak run crazy.
     
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    Addition of Mig-29k in Indian naval arsenal has not only boosted Aviation arm of IN, but also has given serious headache to Pakistani navy and will stretch Pakistani air force in possible future conflicts.

    NATO described Mig-29k one of the best Naval fighter aircraft in the Asian region, It has been vindicated when Russian Navy decided to purchase them to replace their also Su 33 carrier fleet, with Indian navy already has shown interest in the delayed Lca Program and are already developing Naval variant of it, if Indian media reports are to be believed Navy to will take some aircrafts from Famous MMRCA competition, where French Rafale and European Euro fighter are in the race.

    IN with addition of Naval Lca and MMRCA aircraft will be force to reckon with in the region, while Pakistani navy on the other hand, other than traditional aircraft for Naval and anit submarine purpose is missing fighter aircrafts in its arsenal.

    Pakistani air force always been Hero for Pakistani military, but time again it has been accused for fighting its own war , classic examples can be lack of air support for Army tank regiment in Battle of Longewala, or attack on Karachi port and Naval ships , where PAF did not even attempted to intervene and fought its own war .

    Pakistani navy has to come out of Protection of PAF and induct its own aircraft in its arsenal , with JF-17 home grown production in full swing , Two or Three squadrons of Naval Variant of JF-17 should be developed and inducted in to Pakistani navy.

    Fighter aircraft’s are required , not only to protect coast of Pakistan, but also assets of Pakistani navy ,such has ships and land based installation , we cannot just afford repeat of 1971 bombing of our harbors

    Note: Authors ip address has been traced to Pakistan, idrw.org, don’t in any way have the same view has the authors of “My Take “


    Indian naval aerial arm will stretch Pakistani air force | idrw.org
     
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    i think the plan is 200 fighter aircrafts and another 200 helicopters, recon, etc, a total of 400, timeline i think is around 2020-25.
     
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    Till late when Sea Harriers availability went dangerously low, that was always the case. Where is the link to your source or is this your article.
    Where is your source. Best fighter in aia is F/A-18 E/F USN is the top dog of asian waters

    No, they havent. Like very Russian project of late, they are 'planning to'


    Indian Navy isnt going to have 3 types of fighters for 200 fighter requirement. Either they take the LCA, or they buy a Fifth Gen fighter

    Why are you even bothered about them, Check on PLAAF. Its an insult to IN to be compared with PN.

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    You are contradicting yourself, how can they be a hero for the 'military', but at the same time fight its own battle.
    'should be', are you a pakistani?

    I sincerely hope this is not written by you, Provide a source for your article.
     
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    True. These aircrafts can mean ASW, Helos, carrier hooked fighters, shore based fighters, UAV/UCAVs, cargo planes & even tankers etc. IN has decided to gradually cut down dependance on IAF for any aerial support operations. They are aiming to operate independently. That was highlighted in last years report on strategic goals of IN in coming 2-3 decades.
     
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    Actually, if IN wants to be a true blue water navy, then they have to be independant of the IAF for basic operations and even most expeditionary ops.
    Which means the IN would need carrier based as well as shore based aircrafts of all kinds - air defense, ground/ shore attack, anti-ship, anti-Submarine - both fixed wing and helis.
     
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    okay, here it is for further deliberation, and for the benefit of the discussion.

    i did distinctly recall the year 2022 and so i talked about timeline as 2020-25.

    its a part of vision 2022:

    Indian Navy fleet to grow to 160-plus by 2022 .:. newkerala.com Online News

    Indian Navy Chief Admiral Sureesh Mehta Spells Out Vision 2022 | India Defence
     
  18. Galaxy

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    By 2021-2022, Our Navy will be Blue Navy

    150 Odd warships doesn't make any navy as blue navy.

    Blue Navy is mainly an offensive navy and when needed can hit any country 1,000 KM away. For that, we need 3 CBG + 4-6 ATV/SLBM + 30-40 Quality Destroyers/Frigates with medium range Missiles/SAM + 100 quality fighter jets at naval base + 20-30 Maritime patrol aircraft and Spy Satellite. I think by 2020-22, All will be done.

    By 2020-22, Required number will be completed.

    If no. of Ships is the criteria, Then Chinese navy could easily become blue navy soon. But They lack CBG and quality Maritime patrol aircraft. Even they are decade behind in UAV/UCAV and SAM's.
     
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    ace009 Freakin' Fighter fan Elite Member

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    You mean Blue water Navy right?
    Also, offensive navy is not the same as a blue water navy. A blue water navy van operate far off from it's own shore and from ANY shore.
     
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    For IN Navy : NMRCA , mig 29K , N- PAK FA .

    I don't know but , who much usefull N-LCA will be . I have some doubt about it .
     
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    Wow, That is a Naval strategist alright. People need to STFU, if they dont have a clue. I love the emphasis on 'quality', so mango desi
     
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