Indian Muslims demand recall of Egypt ambassador

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  1. afako

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    India should recall its ambassador from Egypt and play an active role in ensuring that peace prevails in the country, the All India Muslim Majlis-e Mushawarat (AIMMM), an umbrella body of Indian Muslim organisations, said Monday.

    Arguing that India has a policy of supporting democracy and human rights all over the world, several leaders representing different organisations demanded that the Indian ambassador be recalled.

    “The least India can do if it really believes in democracy is to recall the Indian ambassador from Cairo,” political scientist Javed Jamil said in a press conference here Monday.

    Another leader and former parliamentarian Syed Shahabuddin said: “India should place an embargo on Egypt, recall the Indian ambassador from Cairo and take the issue to the United Nations.”

    He condemned the Indian government’s lukewarm expression of “regret” toward the events in Egypt.

    AIMMM president Zafarul-Islam Khan expressed “anguish” that the Indian government had not taken a strong stand against the overthrow of President Mohammad Mursi in July despite its clear policy of supporting democracy and human rights all over the world.

    The Muslim leaders visited the Egyptian embassy in Delhi to convey their feelings to the ambassador. A memorandum containing their thoughts and suggestion was presented to the ambassador to be forwarded to the Egyptian interim government.

    Indian Muslims demand recall of Egypt ambassador | GulfNews.com

    Why are Indian Muslims feeling for Non-Indians so much?

    Will the Indian Muslims follow the actions of the Government of the Secular republic of India, Representative of all Indians or act as per the Quran - Holy Book of Mohammedian God Allah going against the Indian Position?

    Whom are they more Loyal to - Secularism or Quran?
     
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  3. JBH22

    JBH22 Senior Member Senior Member

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    Still want the answer, everyone knows where the allegiance lies :)
     
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    The Messiah Bow Before Me! Elite Member

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    Do these jahil even understand world of geopolitics ? Must be getting funding from qatar.

    Egyption army is no saint, infact its a puppet of the yanks but still better than the vile wahabhis and thus should be left alone while they massacre them. Nothing is more pleasing than seeing these wahabhi scum getting slaughtered in egypt and also in syria, long may it spread worldwide.
     
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    Why does every tom, dick and Harry have the presumption that India is the thakedar of democracy around the world?

    Why does evryone assume that India should harm her self interest to assist democracy in some god-forsaken land?

    And most of all, why does the Indian Govt. believe that its their responsibility to support democratic regimes? Its all good that you prefer dealing with democratic govts, but pragmatism must be put at the deep front, not blind idealism of the Nehru Era.

    People here might say the Army led by Hosni Mubarak was a tyrant on his people. But for us Indians, he was one of the extremely few Islamic world leaders who supported us in our stance against Pak sponsored terrorism. It was his regime who alongwith Iran backed our position through the 90s.

    It was his regime who first understood the threat terrorism and extremism in the name of Islam, well before the 9/11 episode. It was he who assisted us in any way he could.

    So, frankly, I dont care if the person is a crazy, power hungry tyrant or a 'peace loving' monarch. So long as India's interests are served, We should be ok in dealing with them. Time after time we have seen our interests shatter because we just had to play the goody two shoes in intermational diplomacy. No more, I say.


    Sure, in a perfect world, I'd like to deal with dharmic, idealised priests flying white flage over their austre presidential palace. But then, such Babas are quite rare in the real world. And I'd rather not wait a millenia to deal with the nations where saints dont rule the world....
     
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    where are these as.holes when pakistanis killed out soldiers?why didn't they ask for calling back our ambassador from pakistan??

    calling for an embargo on egypt??what have we done to egypt in first place.egypt gives a shit for our opinion
     
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    Someone who is not even known among Muslims in India get quoted in some gulf news & ppl start questioning the credentials of Muslims in India. Fashionable.

    BTW world over ppl are divided over what's happening in Egypt. Not everyone understands geopolitics. Army in Egypt is the better option. Even the Saudis are supporting the army & not the Muslim brotherhood. But there are many who are crying foul about the overthrow of democratic govt.
     
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    AIMIM are a pathetic insult in the name of India's muslims.

    The likes of Owaisi are the perfect representation of such losers who are more Arabs than Indians.

    I just don't understand why do the muslim community (even a small percentage of it) support such fools who try to divide and isolate them as if they are some other countrymen?


    Hyderabad is not Nizam's personal property anymore and it is time that such parties are taught that lesson.


    Here, India's economy, polity and national defence are at stake at the hands of Secoolars... and these idiots are talking about Egypt. :rolleyes:
     
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    A chauhan "अहिंसा परमो धर्मः धर्म हिंसा तथैव च: l" Senior Member

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    Actually all types of people are in Indian society, some are Islamist, some are nationalistic. But this act should be condemned as we all have witnessed Mumbai riots (for Rohingyas), and their madness ; if we don't condemn this strictly, again the same thing can happen. I guess OP is not generalizing all the Muslims but a section among them (i.e. those who rioted in the Mumbai, and those who rallied in Calcutta for Jamat of BD) who do politics in the name of Islam and Muslims. These AIMMM president Zafarul-Islam Khan, Javed Jamil and Syed Shahabuddin are hurt because an "Islamist" has been overthrown, they simply don't care for the democracy but for their vote bank.
     
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    Why should India recall its Ambassador?

    True India sup[ports democracies.

    But actually India realises that Egypt will care a fig if India recalls.

    When Pakistan had military dictatorship over so many period, did we recall out High Commissioner?

    Stupid!
     
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    Tshering22 Sikkimese Saber Senior Member

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    But you do agree that there is a problem with the Owaisi and his ilk, don't you?

    He uses his 'nizamgiri' thinking that he's a big force and manipulates the already brainwashed crowd of Hyderabad.

    It is stupid I know.

    But the man's party has never gained reputation with the progressives and still relies on hate speeches and brainwashing.

    As for the Army coup, heck even I personally support the military.

    A nationalistic military is any day friendlier and more reasonable than Morsi's Al Qaeda lovers.

    Saudi first supported Morsi, now when it is backfiring, they are supporting military.

    They are just shyt scared that their strategy for regime changes may fire back. A simple reason why they are arming themselves to teeth.

    Saudi's military is as factionalized as Saddam's Baathist Party was; the king always gives power only to the members of his tribe and that too after excessive amounts of 'cross-checking' his loyalty.
     
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    Tshering22 Sikkimese Saber Senior Member

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    Why should we even support only democracies?

    Are we the thekedaars of democracy?

    That's USA. Not our job.

    It is high time we Indians open their eyes and stop living in Nehruvian idealistic world.

    World is now about self interest. Not about ideologies.
     
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    Will india gives importance to strategic reason like SL or succumb to vote bank politics
     
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    we have a name and value to keep.

    regarding usa there will never be a democratic govt where USA steps its foot.on comparison we have a better record
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    Indeed one must not lose sight of one's values.

    We did not lose sight of the same in 1947 and we gave away one thiird of Kashmir.

    We did not lose sight of our values in the 50s and we allow China to trample Tibet and a buffer was lost!

    We did not lose sight of our values pre 1962 and we gave away Aksai Chin.

    In 1962, unprepared that we were, we did not lose out values in 1962 and we were 'taught a lesson' by the Chinese.

    Therefore, maybe while not losing our values, we should adopt the Chinese ways.

    We should stand on a high moral platform (that seems to be our birthright taught by Gandhi) and 'not interfere with the internal affairs of another country'. and so merrily go along thereafter doing what we like in our national interest, as China does.

    And then when the chips are down and that aspect does not work, then we should adopt the other moral high ground and 'teach a lesson' to that country that is inimical to our national interest.

    In short, we must mould our morals and values as per our national interests.
     
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    What vote bank?

    Forget killing tamil people in SL.. their puny navy is killing our citizens down south.

    How the heck is that vote bank politics?

    That technically demands a decisive action by the ICG or by IN gunboats down there.
     
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    Tshering22 Sikkimese Saber Senior Member

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    But Democracy is not a one-size-fits-all solution, mate.

    Trust me, it is just another form of political governance; That's all.

    We Indians need to stop harping European/Western one-liners and start taking an independent stand.


    Saudi is a totalitarian autocratic state and so are rest of the gulf countries.

    Should we cut our ties with them as well for the sake of democracy?

    It would be stupid right?

    Same logic.

    In real world, no one gives a damn about name. USA, China, Japan, etc.. no one.

    It is all a farce while our meek Indian population believes it.
     
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    Egypt was all good and away from terrorism/extremism due to Hosni but this so called "Muslim brotherhood" is nothing but an attempt to start pushing this great historic country called Egypt towards terrorism/extremism.

    This AIMMM should better be vocal about Pakis who are terrorizing the whole world in the name of Islam.
     
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    Tshering22 Sikkimese Saber Senior Member

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    How can they, when they themselves want to do it here in India?

    Does anyone need more proof than the constant wave of abuses he makes about Hindu deities or non-Islamic faiths as a whole?

    If yes, then they are selectively being blind.
     

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