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why, what are your arguments based on?Agni 5 tested as of now cant be taken as a Real ICBM.
why, what are your arguments based on?Agni 5 tested as of now cant be taken as a Real ICBM.
I am talking about Agni-5. Yes we launched it, and it reached a distance of 5000 km. If anything, it proves it is not an ICBM.what are you talking about? didn't we launched AGNI 5?
lighter than Solid..is liquid fuel missiles are lighter?
i need to know your arguments regarding why its not ICBMI am talking about Agni-5. Yes we launched it, and it reached a distance of 5000 km. If anything, it proves it is not an ICBM.
BTW, you did not post the map.
why, what are your arguments based on?
i need to know your arguments regarding why its not ICBM
Well, I am confused whether you agree with these statements or not (quoted below).What is the confusion? the re entry speed is an indicator that it is and ICBM. Dunno why you are confused
Well officially yes, Mach 25+ was the re entry speed as mentioned in different reports, that is normally for ICBM's.
First sentence of the article:
Intercontinental Ballistic MissilesIntercontinental Ballistic Missiles (ICBMs) have ranges of greater than 5,500 km.
Another one:
ICBM (missile) -- Britannica Online EncyclopediaICBM, in full intercontinental ballistic missile, Land-based, nuclear-armed ballistic missile with a range of more than 3,500 miles (5,600 km).
I hope after this people will stop calling the Agni-5 an ICBM.
No Sir, if you read, I have always maintained all these claims about Agni-5 being an 'ICBM' are (1) speculation and (2) theoretical. You can go back and check my earlier posts.Sir, you are capping your 5k + to less then 5500 and saying it is not an ICBM
Agni-5 went as far as 5000 km (BBC News,BroadSword), therefore, it is not an ICBM. I have provided the definition of ICBM as well, from reputed sources. I rest my case.
More information:
http://ajaishukla.blogspot.in/2012/04/perfect-launch-for-5000-km-range-agni-5.htmlAlthough the DRDO calls the Agni-5 an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM), its range of 5000 kilometres puts it --- by most conventional measures --- in the class of intermediate range ballistic missiles (IRBMs), which have ranges of 3,000-5,500 kilometres. The Agni-5's range is carefully calibrated; it can reach targets anywhere except for America and Australia. This would allow it to strike all India's potential adversaries, even as friendly capitals in Western Europe and the US stay out of range. DRDO sources say that, in case of need, the Agni-5 could easily be ramped up into an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM), with a range of more than 5500 kilometres.
In a specific scenario i agree with you, if you talk about single megaton warhead then accuracy doesn't play important role, but commonly MIRVs are used strategically, suppose if you have to blow Shanghai and Bejing's navy base then you won't need a megaton warhead but small MIRVs and yes they must have accuracy or low CEP i.e. less than 150 meters i think. And DRDO missiles reportedly have 40m CEP which is very good.For ICBM's the accuracy can be off by even a few hundred meters and it
may not matter because the coverage is much greater. Russians are known
for having terrible CEP but they view it as irrelevant in the context of coverage.
Even the newly developed Iskander has a poor CEP but it is irrelevant. Russian
SCUDS in ww2 had terrible CEP but they still helped beat the Germans.
are u saying that agni 5 is not ICBM because it's off by 500KM ?Crossposting buddy!
Scientists have said Agni range will be variable as needed for threat perception.I am talking about Agni-5. Yes we launched it, and it reached a distance of 5000 km. If anything, it proves it is not an ICBM.
BTW, you did not post the map.
I agree. Anything that has not been tested and proven is hypothetical. This is what I said long time back.Scientists have said Agni range will be variable as needed for threat perception.
This is more a political decision than capability.
yes, i said it.. it's more or like a proof of technology.you said we have proven MIRV capability with the PSLV launch of 10 satellite.
To be precise, it is under the threshold by 500 km. Yes, what I am saying is already posted in my earlier post. Let me know if you disagree with anything.are u saying that agni 5 is not ICBM because it's off by 500KM ?
SOlid propellents are simpler. So the rocket is lighter. Liquid is heavierlighter than Solid..
instead of satellites you will be deploying warheads in RVyes, i said it.. it's more or like a proof of technology.
what part of it did u not understand when everybody said that range of agni 5 is under reported by media in order to prevent panic in western countries?To be precise, it is under the threshold by 500 km. Yes, what I am saying is already posted in my earlier post. Let me know if you disagree with anything.
Two considerations:instead of satellites you will be deploying warheads in RV
Everybody said? Who is that everybody? I have quoted BBC and BroadSword. I understood every single part of those who said that Agni-5 is an ICBM. I do not agree with them. As simple as that.what part of it did u not understand when everybody said that range of agni 5 is under reported by media in order to prevent panic in western countries?
Most US MIRV's CEP is around 90 -120 Peacekeepers and Trident.In a specific scenario i agree with you, if you talk about single megaton warhead then accuracy doesn't play important role, but commonly MIRVs are used strategically, suppose if you have to blow Shanghai and Bejing's navy base then you won't need a megaton warhead but small MIRVs and yes they must have accuracy or low CEP i.e. less than 150 meters i think. And DRDO missiles reportedly have 40m CEP which is very good.
SRBMs and IRBMs are good with 100m CEP but when you decrease the range of missile and coverage of warhead you must get higher accuracy or low CEP
plus, yusuf and saya have proof that agni 5 is way more than 5000KM, ping them, they will give it to you..what part of it did u not understand when everybody said that range of agni 5 is under reported by media in order to prevent panic in western countries?
every one from drdo said that range of agni 5 is way more than 5000KM
BBC and BroadSwordEverybody said? Who is that everybody? I have quoted BBC and BroadSword. I understood every single part of those who said that Agni-5 is an ICBM. I do not agree with them. As simple as that.