Indian EMB-145 AEW&C

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  1. anoop_mig25

    anoop_mig25 Senior Member Senior Member

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    IS it really scam or ploy to stop/derail integration .DRDO efforts would be wasted it this project is derailed

    Allready lots of project has been derailed

    And what US has do in first place when plane is an Brazilian one
     
  2. Prashant12

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    Aircraft with Indian airborne warning system set for induction

    The first of the two small surveillance aircraft carrying the first Indian airborne early warning system is slated to be inducted into the Air Force in about two months, it is reliably learnt.

    The DRDO has fitted its own airborne early warning and control system (AEW & CS) on a modified Embraer ERJ 145 aircraft imported from Brazil.

    The AEW & CS is basically a ‘sharp-seeing and listening’ radar that can look out deep across enemy territory for any incoming threat without itself crossing over. “The aircraft has undergone the requisite operational trials, [got certified] and is ready for induction in November or later,” a person with knowledge of its progress told The Hindu .

    Second aircraft

    The second aircraft is going through the initial trials and is likely to join the first one around mid-2017 at the Bhisiana Air Force Station in Bathinda, Punjab, close to the northern borders.

    The DRDO’s Bengaluru-based Centre for Airborne Systems (CABS) is the nodal agency for the design, integration and testing of the Indian early warning systems on the Embraer.

    (Early this month the DRDO sought details of the purchase of the two aircraft after the United States launched a probe in recent months into suspected payments in the Brazilian deal.)

    Work on the twin Rs. 2,000-crore surveillance aircraft project started after the first customised plane reached CABS in July 2012 from Sao Paulo.

    The DRDO has fitted its own AEW&CS on a modified Embraer ERJ 145 aircraft, imported from Brazil

    http://www.thehindu.com/todays-pape...g-system-set-for-induction/article9165096.ece
     
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    ....................2017 ???????
     
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    almost every deal will have a middle man, it's about time the media stops creating a hipe about it, the new DPP changes the name of "middle man" to "assigned representative".
     
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    IAF to get 'eye in the sky' to snoop on Pakistani and Chinese air force

    The Airborne Early Warning and Control (AEWC) aircraft will be inducted on Dec 23 at Chitradurga Range in Karnataka.


    After a delay, the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) would help in enhancing Indian Air Force's capability to snoop and detect activities of Pakistani and Chinese air force as it is planning to induct the indigenously-developed snooping plane later this month.

    "The plan is to induct the Airborne Early Warning and Control (AEWC) aircraft on December 23 at our newly developed Chitradurga Aeronautical Range in Karnataka," DRDO officials told Mail Today here. Once inducted, the aircraft would help the Air Force to detect, identify and classify threats present in the area under its surveillance and can send the IAF fighters towards enemy planes and other airborne assets.

    WHAT IS THE AIRCRAFT CAPABLE OF?

    "The plane can act as a command-and-control centre to support air defence operations like the AWACS aircraft India got from Israel and can monitor multiple target aircraft and areas," the officials said. "The AEWC system can support Air Force in offensive strike missions and assist forces in the tactical battle area in case of hostilities with the enemy countries," they said.

    READ | DRDO to salvage home-grown aircraft dumped by Indian Navy

    Sources said most of the capabilities in the aircraft have already been proven but some of them are still undergoing testing and would continue while the aircraft flies in the Air Force. India had contracted for three AWACS aircraft from Russia and Israel which are already flying for the Air Force and the service is looking for inducting two more in another tripartite deal. The planes for the system are provided by Russia while the radar and other snooping systems were provided and integrated by the Israelis.

    The only difference between the Indian and Israeli 'eye in the sky' is that the IL-76 heavylift aircraft-mounted AWACS system can carry out 360 degree surveillance at a time while the AEWC can monitor only 270 degrees due to limitations in the type of radar.

    http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/...rning-and-control-aircraft-drdo/1/829481.html
     
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    IAF to finally have desi ‘eye in the sky’ to look into Pakistan, China

    BENGALURU: The Indian Air Force (IAF) will finally induct the first indigenously developed all-weather airborne early warning and control system (AeW&CS)—'Eyes in the Sky"—later this month, augmenting its ability to detect incoming cruise missiles, fighter jets or even drones from both Pakistan and China.

    India, which experts say is lagging behind in this aspect of defence capability in comparison with both China and Pakistan, presently has only three Phalcon airborne warning and control system (AWACS), which uses the Israeli early-warning radars mounted in domes on top of IL-76 aircraft.

    The indigenous AeW&CS, developed by the Centre for Airborne Systems (CABS) in Bengaluru and integrated on Brazilian-made Embraer-145 aircraft at a cost of over Rs 2,200 crore, has completed all tests and certification, sources in DRDO told TOI.

    It will add to the capabilities along with the three Phalcon systems. "The first AeW&Cs is ready for induction while the second one is in the final stages of tests and certification," the source said. Work on the third and final one is yet to reach the final stages.

    Pegged as a "force multiplier", the system is equipped with a 240-degree coverage radars in contrast to the existing Phalcons, which provide a 360-degree coverage over a 400-km range. The AEW&C system will detect, identify and classify threats present in the surveillance area and act as a Command and Control Centre to support Air Defence operations.

    "It is equipped with multiple communication and data links that can alert and direct fighters against threats while providing Recognizable Air Surveillance Picture (RASP) to commanders at the Ground Exploitation Stations (GES) that are strategically located," DRDO has said.

    Besides, the system will support IAF in offensive strike missions and assist forces in the tactical battle area. "The Electronic and Communication Support Measures of the system can also intercept and gather electronic and communication intelligence from radar transmissions and communication signals. It is a multi-sensor surveillance system that can perform the following operational roles as defined by the IAF," a senior official said.

    However, this addition and even the other two in the pipeline will not put India on a par with China or even Pakistan.

    China is equipped with better capabilities. As TOI reported earlier, China has over 20 AWACS, including the new KJ-500 ones that can track over 60 aircraft at ranges up to 470km, while Pakistan, on the other hand has four Swedish Saab-2000 AeW&C aircraft and four Chinese-origin ZDK-03 (KJ-200) AWACS.

    Keeping this in mind, the Defence Acquisition Council (DAC), in March 2016 cleared building of two Awacs, which will involve mounting indigenous 360-degree coverage AESA (active electronically scanned array) radars on Airbus A-330 wide-body jets.

    The estimated cost of this project is Rs 5,113 crore and the eventual plan is to induct eight such aircraft under the "Awacs -India". But this is going to take at least seven years to be implemented, if the DRDO sticks to deadlines.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-into-pakistan-china/articleshow/56338292.cms
     
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    The soon-to-be-in-service DRDO-Embraer Airborne Early Warning & Control (AEW&C) jet, in the skies over Delhi today.

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  9. AmoghaVarsha

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    Do we have any idea about the range,number of targets it can track etc?
     
  10. Chinmoy

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    I think it is also going o be a part of Jan 26 parade this time. Am I right?
     
  11. Chinmoy

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    Highly confidential, but whatever is available in open media, it does have a range of 400 km of active scanning. It could do upto 60 high performance tracking. But all of these are unofficial.
     
  12. AmoghaVarsha

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    That makes it better than Chinese KJ 500s.
     
  13. Chinmoy

    Chinmoy Senior Member Senior Member

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    You could compare KJ 500 with EL/W-2090. DRDO AEW&CS is comparable and notch better then Erieye.
     
  14. AmoghaVarsha

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    Thats a big statement.Erieye is one of the best in the world.
     
  15. Chinmoy

    Chinmoy Senior Member Senior Member

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    But again, nothing official about its spec is out in any open discussion. :)
     
  16. Narasimh

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    why is IAF going for just 3 even when its a decent enough system (may or may not be better than Erieye)
    But when IAF is focussed on increasing air defence capability, ordering only three of these systems could mean a couple of things:
    1. Either IAF is not confident with the system due to lesser capability than what was expected. This would bring to question how defense research projects are conducted in the country.
    However I believe the feasibility studies would have been done by DRDO and IAF would know what to expect before signing on for this.
    OR
    2. These were developed as a stepping stone to try for bigger platforms. This is the reason given most often but Indian Air space is huge and would do good with these smaller and less expensive systems. Also, why is IAF going for more phalcons?
    OR
    3. And this is just a theory/wild guess at best... DRDO is developing platform we don't know about and using this as a radar tech POC platform??!!
     
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    I am a bit out of touch, but are the Embraer jets that carry these AEW&CS not under an anti-corruption scanner? Maybe that is why follow on orders have not been placed?

    Maybe its option 3. There was some news of a larger "AWACS" system being developed by DRDO:-

    India takes up AWACS programme

     
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    Range will be 300 km minimum.,................
     
  19. Chinmoy

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    Although @Adioz already replied to your queries, I would add two cents from my side. IAF ordered 3 as the first lot. Now you have to remember the fact that although these have undergone massive test in controlled environments, but only after induction you do get a real sense of its operational capabilities under real operational condition. Based on its capability it would see service. There is no point of ordering a untested electronic warfare system in huge numbers.
     
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    How does drdo AEW&CS perform againts pakistani erieye system?? If Bettr than on which stances? And poor than on which specs?
     

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