Indian diplomat attacked in Chinese court

[Ray]

Nimo,

So, it is an Indian company?

And bankrolled by a Pakistan owner?

And you all ask others to use common sense and logic!

 

[RedDragon]

Lessons learn:

1, Be a honest man
2, Work for a honest man.
3, If you are not sure about the above two do not do business in YiWu.

As far as I know, the local YiWu businessman is very serious about their business and money. If you own their money, or you are the people contact with them in the business which cheat their money, you can't leave by say:"I'm not the boss".

10 Million Yuan is about 2 Million USD, is enough to let several businessman lost all of their business, family and perhaps even life. They surely will not let them leave easily. These two man are the only wish to them. Unless you help get the money back, this matter is very difficult to settle.

Be sympathy to you partner. The diplomat is stupid enough to try take the two indians directly without the permission of the local authorities. And have no sympathy to the local businessman and the local authorities. If the local Authorities let him take the two indians and leave without pay back the money, all the angry of the cheated YiWu businessman will be toward the local authorities. And you guys will have another chance to say something about Chinese's undemocratic about the local people.

 

[JAISWAL]

NEW DELHI: In the wake of torture of two Indian businessmen near Shanghai, China has initiated criminal proceedings against five locals suspected for the act as it promised to address the issue and give due attention to the safety of Indian nationals on its soil.

The assurance was given by Chinese Ambassador Zhang Yan when he met Gautam Bambawale, joint secretary (East Asia) in the external affairs ministry, this afternoon. The envoy said "serious attention" was being given to the issue related to the two businessmen and hoped that it would be resolved as quickly as possible, sources said. The ambassador also assured the MEA that due attention was being given to the safety of Indian nationals and businessmen, they said.

The assurance coincided with the criminal action being initiated against five Chinese nationals who are suspected to have been involved in the torture of the two Indian businessmen -- Shyamsunder Agarwal and Deepak Raheja, the sources said. Agarwal and Raheja have complained of ill-treatment and torture ever since they were "kidnapped" on December 15 by some local people.

The locals, working with a company, have been demanding payment of their dues after the owner of the firm fled. Agarwal and Raheja say they are merely employees of a company which owed money to its Chinese suppliers and their employer has fled without clearing the dues.
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China acts against locals who attacked Indian businessmen - The Times of India

 

[Ray]

I liked the Times Now debate yesterday, where the independent Chinese commentators said that the fault was all because of the local small time govt people because the town was very small and insignificant.

And yet it turned out to be a very huge retail market where everyone in the world congregated! Hardly a small town.

And if the whole world congregated being the world's largest retail market, are the Chinese authorities daft to have stupid low officials when the whole world is congregating and China's reputation would be at stake for silly actions?

What childish and lame excuses.

In contrast, the Chinese construction company working in India, due to faulty equipment and errors killed 41 Indians. None were confined, harassed or tortured, which was done by the vigilantes of China with police connivance and also of the Judge!

 

[Ray]

Lesson Learnt is that China must have laws and not lawlessness or funny Judges!

They can do it to their nationals and get away, but if they do it with foreigners who have better recourse to justice, it will be filth on their face because the media will report it.

It will also shake customer confidence.

 

[amitkriit]

Lessons learn:

1, Be a honest man
2, Work for a honest man.
3, If you are not sure about the above two do not do business in YiWu.

As far as I know, the local YiWu businessman is very serious about their business and money. If you own their money, or you are the people contact with them in the business which cheat their money, you can't leave by say:"I'm not the boss".

10 Million Yuan is about 2 Million USD, is enough to let several businessman lost all of their business, family and perhaps even life. They surely will not let them leave easily. These two man are the only wish to them. Unless you help get the money back, this matter is very difficult to settle.

Be sympathy to you partner. The diplomat is stupid enough to try take the two indians directly without the permission of the local authorities. And have no sympathy to the local businessman and the local authorities. If the local Authorities let him take the two indians and leave without pay back the money, all the angry of the cheated YiWu businessman will be toward the local authorities. And you guys will have another chance to say something about Chinese's undemocratic about the local people.

So in China every thing is sorted out in Kung-Fu style? There is nothing called law and order?
The two Indians were held hostage, they were just the employees of the company. Hundreds of Indian importers have been duped by the Chinese, honesty is not a virtue of Chinese people, they are all hooligans and cheats.

 

[RedDragon]

Lesson Learnt is that China must have laws and not lawlessness or funny Judges!

They can do it to their nationals and get away, but if they do it with foreigners who have better recourse to justice, it will be filth on their face because the media will report it.

It will also shake customer confidence.

Those two indians are still suspect of the fraud, and the India diplomat tried to take them from the court, who should obey the law?

 

[RedDragon]

I don't think these two fraud suspects could leave China before they prove they are not guilty.

 

[The Messiah]

I don't think these two fraud suspects could leave China before they prove they are not guilty.

This shows what kind of shambolic country china is. Defender has to prove himself innocent rather than accuser to prove his accusation

 

[Virendra]

That is pure LOL
Please tell me Chinese judiciary doesn't have similar views

 

[W.G.Ewald]

Why do you worry?

Opium maybe still rampant around China!

There is a lot of difference in holding degrees of education and pure God given intelligence!

Chinese fought two wars against Brits over opium.

British and United States merchants brought opium from the British East India Company's factories in Patna and Benares,[SUP][1][/SUP] in the Bengal Presidency of British India, to the coast of China, where they sold it to Chinese smugglers who distributed the drug in defiance of Chinese laws. Aware both of the drain of silver and the growing numbers of addicts, the Dao Guang Emperor demanded action. Officials at the court who advocated legalization of the trade in order to tax it were defeated by those who advocated suppression. In 1838, the Emperor sent Lin Zexu to Guangzhou where he quickly arrested Chinese opium dealers and summarily demanded that foreign firms turn over their stocks. When they refused, Lin stopped trade altogether and placed the foreign residents under virtual siege, eventually forcing the merchants to surrender their opium to be destroyed.

Opium Wars - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Ray]

I don't think these two fraud suspects could leave China before they prove they are not guilty.

They could not have left if they were guilty because the Chinese would surely apply the law as any other country would.

The reason why they could leave, though I think they are still in Shanghai where there is the Consulate, is that they were employees and not the owner and so their liability is none.

The fraud was done by the Pakistani owner and he has taken off into the blue!