Indian diplomat arrested, handcuffed in US for visa fraud

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Strauss Kahn was under rape charges which is a heinous crime. The Indian diplomat just filed an application which had been duly signed by the applicant. The latter now has become turncoat against the very person who brought her to America for two years in the first place. The house keeper does not wish to go back to India after expiry of the visa, hence cooked up this whole episode.

The Indian house keeper was being paid wages as she got India and additional allowance proportional to what her employer was getting herself.

Tell me how many Indian employees/housekeepers/drivers/cleaners/housemaids in Delhi are being paid American wages. Come to think off American Embassy in Delhi is a sovereign US soil in India, hence all the American laws including American wages should be applicable to these employees.

US - be rational pay the American wages to them including 63 years of back pay with interest. Then begin arresting diplomats.
 

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NYPD is one of the worst police departments in the world. They are manned by extremely unprofessional, stupid, and incompetent, seemingly high school passouts. Slightly better is the FBI, another completely incompetent organization.
 

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Hyderaba protest

Expressing their displeasure over the US government's harsh treatment, the members of the Forum held placards that read "Is this your (American) culture, treating women in such a way" and "Big Brother (the US Government), don't humiliate our sisters."

It is really undemocratic of any nation that arrests a diplomat, who enjoys diplomatic immunity, in such way, Forum's president N Siddoji Rao said. "We are extremely unhappy the way our woman diplomat has been treated in America. Is the US government ignorant of immunity that diplomats enjoy from getting arrested?" he asked.

The present incident brought to fore, the racial discrimination against Indians and more importantly against Dalits even in the US, as the diplomat in question belongs to Scheduled Caste and a Dalit woman rights activist, said G Shankar, secretary, Andhra Pradesh Scheduled Caste Association.
 

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When read that she was a "dalit womens rights activist", I knew it would spark some protest from a section of the public.

This is a clear case of caste politics by the evil upper caste Americans :lol:
 
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Just saw on NDTV that home minister and rahul gandhi have cancelled their meetings with usa congressmen delegation. Also govt has asked usa diplomats here to turn in their id's or something like that.
 

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^^ here ya go @nrupatunga

Devyani Khobragade's arrest: Angry India asks US diplomats to turn in identity cards | NDTV.com

Congress vice president Rahul Gandhi and Home Minister Sushil Kumar Shinde today refused to meet a US Congress delegation amid an escalating row over Indian diplomat Devyani Khobragade who was reportedly subjected to a humiliating strip search and kept in a cell with drug addicts after her arrest for alleged visa fraud in New York last week.

National Security Adviser Shiv Shankar Menon has described Ms Khobragade's treatment as "despicable and barbaric."

Ms Khobragade has refused to comment on this, but the new revelations have escalated the diplomatic row between India and the US over her arrest. Government sources have said that India is considering taking "reciprocal steps" later today, "to convey a clear message that this treatment of the diplomat is unacceptable."

Ms Khobragade's father Uttam Khobragade, a former IAS officer, says he will meet External Affairs Minister Salman Khurshid today to take up the matter. "My daughter is brave, but I'm worried. There's more than what meets the eye," he told NDTV.

Yesterday, Lok Sabha Speaker Meira Kumar and Mr Menon had cancelled meetings in Delhi with a visiting US Congressional delegation.

Sources said senior officials in the Ministry had urged Mr Khurshid to cancel his meeting with the US team too, but the minister chose to meet them and convey India's displeasure.


Ms Khobragade, 39, was arrested on Thursday on the street while she was dropping her daughter to school and was handcuffed in public. She was later released on a $250,000 bail. She has been accused of lying on the visa application for an Indian national who worked at her home from November to June for less than four dollars an hour. (Indian diplomat arrested in US for alleged visa fraud, handcuffed in public)

A day later, Foreign secretary Sujatha Singh had summoned American ambassador in New Delhi, Nancy Powell, and lodged a strong protest over what India has described as "unacceptable treatment" meted out to its senior consular officer. (India summons US ambassador to protest diplomat being handcuffed)

Responding to a questionnaire mailed out by NDTV, Noel Clay, a spokesperson for the US State Department, said standard procedures had been followed during Ms Khobragade's arrest. "After her arrest, US Marshals processed her for intake. For any additional questions on her treatment, we refer you to the US Marshals," Mr Clay wrote.

NDTV has contacted the US Marshals office and is awaiting a response.

At the heart of the diplomatic row is the legal definition of diplomatic immunity. Mr Clay told NDTV, "Under the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations, the Indian Deputy Consul General enjoys immunity from the jurisdiction of US courts only with respect to acts performed in the exercise of consular functions."

But India has argued that the Article 41 of the Vienna Convention was violated; it states that a diplomat will only be arrested for a grave crime, and even if arrested, all courtesies will be extended to the diplomat.
There is no explanation about the cards in this...what are the cards used for?
 
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NYPD is one of the worst police departments in the world. They are manned by extremely unprofessional, stupid, and incompetent, seemingly high school passouts. Slightly better is the FBI, another completely incompetent organization.
Surely, you have ignored/forgotten the Policing standards of Indian states especially West Bengal, Maharasthra, UP, Bihar, Haryana & Delhi.
 

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NYPD is one of the worst police departments in the world. They are manned by extremely unprofessional, stupid, and incompetent, seemingly high school passouts. Slightly better is the FBI, another completely incompetent organization.
From what I know, NYPD has really got its act together in the aftermath of 9/11 & have done an effective containment of drug peddlers/street-thugs/goons/local mafia etc. Basically, the streets are considered lot more safer than they ever were (thanks to the erstwhile Mayor), correct ?

Further, NYPD cannot act on its own accord in this matter unless explicit approvals from State Deptt. were already in place.

It's nice to see a Police Deptt. who does not give a SH*T about position of a person, whether its IMF chief or anyone's son/protege & bring law upon perpetrators in a fearless & favour-free manner. What the Indians would not give away to experience such effective Policing in Indian states.
 

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is this revenge for detaining the American Sailors a tit for tat and what happened to those sailors are they still in jail or did they already on their way home

and one out of topic what happened to the Italian sailors who killed a Indian Fisherman are those in jail or in a five star hotel
 

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No amount of whitewashing or supporting the US for it action will wash.

Consular immunity privileges are described in the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations of 1963

In the US reasonable constraints, however, may be applied in emergency circumstances involving self-defense, public safety, or the prevention of serious criminal acts.

Diplomatic immunity is a form of legal immunity and a policy held between governments that ensures that diplomats are given safe passage and are considered not susceptible to lawsuit or prosecution under the host country's laws, although they can still be extradited.

Even diplomats spying are not arrested and instead are declared persona no garata.

Whatever4 be the case, public humiliation like handcuffing CANNOT be Accepted.

It is time we do the same to some of the US consular staff, for say, when they act bolshy (which they do most liberally) under 'disturbing public peace'.
 

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^^ here ya go @nrupatunga

Devyani Khobragade's arrest: Angry India asks US diplomats to turn in identity cards | NDTV.com



There is no explanation about the cards in this...what are the cards used for?
Though no idea what exactly cards might be used for. But even rediff is saying so
India asks US diplomats across India to return ID cards: The rare instance where the Congress and the BJP see eye-to-eye. Narendra Modi has followed Rahul Gandhi and Sushilkumar Shinde and has snubbed the US congressional delegation. He won't be meeting the team as well.

Remember, MEA Salman Khurshid had promised strict action.

India has also asked the US to turn in identity cards of all US diplomats serving in US Consulates all over the country.
 
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I can't believe some of the comments here about how the Indian diplomats are corrupt and what not, that's not the issue guys. America likes us to believe that we are an ally and this is how they treat us. It's beyond pale.
 

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You know what would be the best response? There is a homosexual couple that works as consular staff in one of the consulate-generals. Arrest that couple in the same spectacular fashion (public handcuffing) under section 377 IPC, tell them that they could be jailed for life, take them to Ranchi by road (not even National Highways, but arterial state-highways), have Ranchi Medical College medicos perform their medical examinations (pick the most rowdy types to do that) and dump them in Birsa Munda. Have Jharkhand Police deal with the investigation.

Guess who suggested this?
 
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US does not respect international laws, you guys remember when India's ex-president APJ Abdul Kalam himself was searched despite his fame? Few years ago Shahrukh Khan also faced same.

1 time even Indian ambassador Meera Shankar in US faced this.:mad::mad::tsk::tsk:

We should do the same.

I wonder why Indian political parties are silent in this? If I remember right in 1966 Indian consuls were harassed in China, 1 civil leader made an appeal in bus to passengers to protest about this, passenger and angry civilians stormed Chinese embassy, after this China never did anything wrong to Indian diplomatic personals. @Ray a little help. I read it in newspaper, but cant remember thoroughly.

Give them their own medicine.
@LETHALFORCE, you as an Indian-American, what do you think?:frusty::frusty:
 
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You know what would be the best response? There is a homosexual couple that works as consular staff in one of the consulate-generals. Arrest that couple in the same spectacular fashion (public handcuffing) under section 377 IPC, tell them that they could be jailed for life, take them to Ranchi by road (not even National Highways, but arterial state-highways), have Ranchi Medical College medicos perform their medical examinations (pick the most rowdy types to do that) and dump them in Birsa Munda. Have Jharkhand Police deal with the investigation.

Guess who suggested this?
Even though, this sounds like fun (I especially like that state-highways part :troll:)
I think this will prompt crazy homosexual support groups (or whatever the hell they're called) to invite themselves to the party. And this will bring condemnation from various groups across the world. The issue will quickly change from violation of modesty of a diplomat to homosexuals and their incessant whining (do not underestimate the expertise of America in spreading misinformation: has happened many times before, is currently happening in Ukraine).
India's response should be designed to inflict maximum damage. We have to learn from other countries in this regards because given the kind of people that rule India, I don't think any beyond "clear message" and "strong protest" will happen.
btw who suggested this ?
 
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Breaking News: Airport Passes for all US diplomats in India have been with drawn by GoI.

Source: PTI.
 

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