Indian diplomat arrested, handcuffed in US for visa fraud

[jackprince]

Congrats to Preet Bharara for making an example of this Indian diplomat.

Please, don't mind when we make an example out of you, or by the same line other countries start making examples out of you.

 

[roma]

she was strip-searched by usa (male ?) marshalls and made to sit with drug and common crimnals
while awaitintg bail

nsa adviasor and meira kumar cancelld their meetings with usa visiting delegations

i am asking this forum if the indian gov has done enough ?

in china the people would have stoned the usa embassy by now

 

[roma]

Indian diplomat strip-searched by USA male marshals - goi's response ?

Details now gradually emerging reveal that Indian diplomat deputy consul general Devyani K was was strip-searched by usa (male ?) marshalls and made to sit in a jail with drug and common criminals while awaiting bail

SO SHE HAD TO REMOVE HER SARI in front of usa male marshalls? and in what condition sit with the drug and other criminals ?

in return nsa advisory and meira kumar cancelled their meetings with usa visiting delegations

i am asking this forum if the indian gov has done enough ?

our rahul baba and mms singh have said nothing

in china the people would have stoned the usa embassy by now

perhaps our salman khurshed might call this a "pimple" on the face

meanwhile usa has said :- they hope it wont affect ties - what nerve
US hopes diplomat's arrest won't affect ties with India - Video | The Times of India

and goi has not retaliated -- what does this forum think china would have done ?

oh btw i hope this is serious enough to warrant a new thread for discussion ?

 

[W.G.Ewald]

she was strip-searched by usa (male ?) marshalls and made to sit with drug and common crimnals
while awaitintg bail

nsa adviasor and meira kumar cancelld their meetings with usa visiting delegations

i am asking this forum if the indian gov has done enough ?

in china the people would have stoned the usa embassy by now

Source for this information? Still waiting for photo evidence of handcuffs.

 

[W.G.Ewald]

Re: Indian diplomat strip-searched by USA male marshals - goi's respon

Details now gradually emerging reveal that Indian deputy consul diplomat devyani K was was strip-searched by usa (male ?) marshalls and made to sit with drug and common criminals while awaiting bail

Nothing in the link you provided substantiates this. Do you need to start another thread for dramatic effect?

If the lady was jailed, how much was the bail and why did her government not bail her out?

Why did a consular official not secure her release immediately?

 

[jackprince]

Source for this information? Still waiting for photo evidence of handcuffs.

Why? Does your cops go around taking pictures while arresting people and then release on media or online? Or should she have known that she would be arrested to have had a camera ready to click? Or don't your media ever report anything based on unnamed sources? Or when they do, they or their sources always have matrial evidence like pics, vids available?

 

[roma]

Source for this information? Still waiting for photo evidence of handcuffs.

source is ndtv and also times of india - pls do own research

has to be v serious otherwise nsa advisor would not have snubbed viitng usa delegation - as nsa is an important matter

much more than speaker of parliament

you want a picture of diplomat being arrested - what using her hand phone to take video while being handcuffed ?

 

[W.G.Ewald]

Re: Indian diplomat strip-searched by USA male marshals - goi's respon

Her lawyer told a magistrate judge his client would challenge the arrest on grounds of diplomatic immunity. She was freed on $250,000 bail.

Devyani Khobragade, Indian Diplomat In New York, Facing Fraud Charges « CBS New York

That means a bail bondsman would need to be paid $25,000.

 

[roma]

Re: Indian diplomat strip-searched by USA male marshals - goi's respon

Nothing in the link you provided substantiates this. Do you need to start another thread for dramatic effect?

If the lady was jailed, how much was the bail and why did her government not bail her out?

Why did a consular official not secure her release immediately?

Sir ---
all the qns you have asked are out there on toi or other sources and have been for days since friday
since the incident occured


the usa-system has made a huge error and needs to apologise and make restitution
that is the crux of the matter

you may not think this event is important enough for a separate thread ?
but i would expect that the new details

of her being strip-searched

is enough to discuss the new angles ..... so the need for a separate thread

for example there are many usa ladies working at schools for usa children in india - without a work permit
they could be arrested - strip-searched , handcuffed and made to sit in India jails and then given bail at 25,000 usd

while we take our own time to discuss the legality of their position ?

not my idea - the indian diplomats had suggested this since Friday - it's on toi and elsewhere

 

[W.G.Ewald]

Re: Indian diplomat strip-searched by USA male marshals - goi's respon

The irony of the situation is hard to miss – barely nine months ago, India detained the Italian ambassador to New Delhi, Daniele Mancini, and threatened to prosecute him because immunity from jurisdiction applies only with respect to acts performed in the exercise of diplomatic functions. There is also much schadenfreude going around over Khobragade's arrest – many Indians are frustrated with how India's rich and powerful seem above the law and are glad to see one of them face the consequences of their actions. Many twitterati have remarked that the real injustice – Khobragade's mistreatment of her employee – should not be lost sight of when protesting the violation of consular protocol...



Even if a case could be made for Khobragade's immunity, her wilful violation of US law is harder to refute. Indeed, the defence has claimed diplomatic immunity but is yet to deny the fraudulent visa application for which Khobragade has been charged. The US would be well within its rights to declare her persona non grata. Such an action would be in line with the State Department's history of taking a stricter view on functional immunity, but that still leaves Washington with having to explain the violation of the personal inviolability of foreign diplomats...

The Khobragade episode raises a more pertinent question than one of diplomatic immunity – what kind of people is India's Ministry of External Affairs hiring to be the country's face to the world? In the last two years alone, two Indian consular officers to the US have been in the news on charges of fraud and mistreatment of employees. Khobragade's name has already appeared in relation to the controversial Adarsh Cooperative Housing Society scam, yet she was chosen to represent India to an important international partner. Is the Indian Foreign Service so short-staffed that they need to appoint people with questionable backgrounds to important posts in other countries?

Devyani Khobragade case: More than just a question of diplomatic immunity - Analysis - DNA

 

[W.G.Ewald]

Re: Indian diplomat strip-searched by USA male marshals - goi's respon

India's Deputy Consul general in New York Devyani Khobragade who was arrested for allegedly presenting fraudulent documents in support of a visa application for an Indian national employed by her, has been released today from custody on a USD 25,000 bond.

She pleaded not guilty in federal court here to charges of visa fraud.

Khobragade was arrested yesterday morning by law enforcement authorities after Manhattan's top federal prosecutor Preet Bharara announced the charges against her.

Khobragade appeared before a federal judge here for her arraignment.

India's Deputy Consul general in New York Devyani Khobragade held for visa fraud, released on bail - India - DNA

To me this implies she was not jailed.

 

[W.G.Ewald]

Title says handcuffs. Prove it. Roma says strip-searched Provide evidence. Otherwise you remain hysterical ninnies (and a female impersonator, in Roma's case). Very strange people you are.

 

[W.G.Ewald]

Re: Indian diplomat strip-searched by USA male marshals - goi's respon

your usa excellency ---
all the qns y ou have asked are out there on toi or other sources and have been for days since friday
since the incident occured
your repeated asking doent mean we will serve you like a servant

the usa-system has made a huge error and isnt man enough to apologise and make restitution
that is the crux of the matter

you may not think this event is important enough for a separate thread ?
but i would expect that the new details

of her being stripped

is enough for most of us here to brainstorm what RETALIATORY ACTION should be taken

so the need for a separate thread

for example there ar many usa ladies working at schools for usa children in india - without a work permit
they could be arrested - made to sit in India jails
while we tak our own time to discuss the legality of their position ?
not my idea - the indian diplomats had suggested this since Friday - it's ion toi and elsewhere

oh i forgot - they could be strip-searched and handcuffed as well - by indian policemen

You are hysterical and incoherent, as well as being sexually confused. Who can take you seriously?

 

[roma]

Re: Indian diplomat strip-searched by USA male marshals - goi's respon

You are hysterical and incoherent, as well as being sexually confused. Who can take you seriously?

but why do you resort to personal attacks when you lose the argument ?

did i make personal attacks on you ?

 

[roma]

Title says handcuffs. Prove it. Roma says strip-searched Provide evidence. Otherwise you remain hysterical ninnies (and a female impersonator, in Roma's case). Very strange people you are.

Indian diplomat in US was strip-searched, kept in jail with drug addicts: sources | NDTV.com

please admit you were wrong - and apologize on this thread

some further info :-
http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...l-delegation-in-protest/article1-1163267.aspx

http://www.hindustantimes.com/world...in-us-demoralises-cadre/article1-1162498.aspx

 

[t_co]

Indian diplomat in US was strip-searched, kept in jail with drug addicts: sources | NDTV.com

please admit you were wrong - and apologize on this thread

some further info :-
Meira Kumar cancels meeting with US congressional delegation - Hindustan Times

Indian diplomat's arrest in US demoralises cadre - Hindustan Times

Pure pwnage.

 

[roma]

well i've made a few posts above , but let's clarify the position - from my point of view,
the department at fault is the NYPD - not the entire usa

imho usa is still the best country - for university study , especially post-grad research
but the nypd has been over-heavy -handed -
when a more common-sense approach was more suitable

this is a frail woman and an active, serving diplomat of a very friendly country
this was not action in retaliation of some evil which was done to the usa

unfortunately any appeals to the nypd , have already fallen on deaf ears
so the indian establishment has to take action in other areas
they have little other choice

 

[Hari Sud]

There is only one way to drive the point home in America's mind and that is to arrest their diplomats on some minor offence in Delhi, Bombay and other places and strip search them and keep them in jail for a night. It will strain the relations for a while but the American diplomacy would know that arresting diplomats for minor offences is itself a crime under Geneva Convention.

The New York Public Prosecutor did not act of his own. He was in communication with the State Department, who agreed and okayed the arrest.

US is used to arresting and throwing people in jail (especially foreign nationals) for ten to twenty years. A motorists who with his reckless driving may kill a person on the road and he gets off with six months to a year in prison - what a double standard.

So, India; go ahead and arrest a US diplomat even if he is being chauffeured in a luxury car for some traffic infraction. Just like the Indian diplomat who filed the visa application which was signed by the Visa applicant - a favor by an employer to employee, go ahead and arrest the diplomat, not the driver for riding the car driven by a dangerous driver. The driver to be slighted for minor traffic infraction only.

Then the message will get home.

 

[asianobserve]

Source for this information? Still waiting for photo evidence of handcuffs.

Just to be fair the NYPD guys 2 years ago handcuffed a sitting IMF Chief (Dominique Stauss-Kahn) at Kennedy International Airport. I don't remember French citizens protesting the manner on how Mr. Kahn was handled though.

 

[asianobserve]

I told u , it's just sex relation gone wrong between preet bahara and the lady diplomat

You maybe on to something for it seems that the action against the lady diplomatic is heavy-handed (maybe if she beat the daylight our of her domestic helper then it could be something). A spurned lover?