Indian city bans begging ahead of Ivanka Trump visit

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  1. nimo_cn

    nimo_cn Senior Member Senior Member

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    A city in southern India has banned begging for two months ahead of a visit by Ivanka Trump.

    Police in Hyderabad made the announcement this week, ahead of the three-day Global Entrepreneurship Summit which starts Nov. 28 and will be attended by Trump’s daughter and Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

    Hyderabad Police Commissioner M. Mahendar Reddy said begging was causing a nuisance, affecting public order and was a danger to traffic and pedestrians.

    Begging in public is banned until Jan. 7. Authorities plan to send around 6,000 beggars to shelters or for rehab. People who defy the ban can be fined or jailed.

    President Trump tweeted about his daughter's upcoming trip in August, saying: "[email protected] will lead the U.S. delegation to India this fall, supporting women’s entrepreneurship globally.#[email protected]"

    [email protected] will lead the U.S. delegation to India this fall, supporting women’s entrepreneurship globally.#GES2017 @narendramodi

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 10, 2017
    A senior police officer told AFP the ban was not linked to the presidential adviser’s visit.

    Indian academic and human rights activist Madhu Purnima Kishwar told AFP that the begging ban was “cruel” because it “criminalizes poverty."

    "Did they expect them (VIPs) to take a stroll and talk to the beggars on the street?" she added.

    A representative for Ivanka Trump wasn’t immediately available for comment.
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...BlitzRss&utm_campaign=usatoday-newstopstories
     
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    nimo_cn Senior Member Senior Member

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    I thought that only Chinese communist party cares about cosmetic effect.
     
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    China to ban beggars prior to 2008 Olympics


    China will ban beggars and hawkers from downtown Beijing prior to 2008 Olympics so as to give the host city a facelift.

    PTI | Mar 2, 2007, 13:30 IST
    BEIJING: China will ban beggars and hawkers from downtown Beijing prior to 2008 Olympics so as to give the host city a facelift, local officials said.

    Work has begun on keeping beggars, hawkers and people distributing advertising fliers out of the Chinese capital to ensure "fluid communication and a better image for the capital", the office for 2008 environment-friendly Olympics announced here.

    The municipal's bureau of industry and commerce, together with police, will strive to put an end to illegal activities within the city's Second Ring Road, including begging, hawking, handing out advertising fliers on major roads and running unlicensed taxis.

    The Beijing Civil Affairs Bureau plans to make more efforts this year to accommodate handicapped people, the elderly and homeless children. The body will try to send these urban vagrants home free of charge, Xinhua news agency reported.
    Within the Fourth Ring, the authorities will launch a crack down on drunken driving, unlicensed driving and the absence of number plates, so as to reduce accidents. Jaywalking and non-motor vehicles violating traffic rules are also big-time problems, official sources said, adding that they aim to make 90 per cent of pedestrians and non-motor vehicles abide by traffic laws within the Fifth Ring. All the 'Chinglish' name boards, road signs and restaurant menus have been replaced with standard English signs.


    https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...rior-to-2008-Olympics/articleshow/1712559.cms
     
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    Good one.
    People living in glasshouses should not throw stones at others.
     
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    What a tragedy of sorts. Two great civilisations fucked about by the white man, now beginning to rise up but still being played like monkeys by the same white man - to the extent that they end up in dick-measuring contests on who is more poor. What are 30-50 years' difference between the two, in the scheme of millennia!
     
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    Any coverage by TOI on the indian ban?
    I guess that back in 2008 when indian journalist was writing that story about China, he never expectd that 9 years later his own government would employ the same ban over his own people.
     
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    Well, I guess indian started throwing stones years ago.
     
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    not just TOI but world media had reported the incident on china.
    Its just that every nation does its best to put a pretty face..Be it India, or Russia or china or Brazil or well even European nations...
    It was you who posted this on India...so I just told you that you guys did it way back in 2008.

    News are reported as and it Is in India unlike china where there is even putting pretty face on the media by your lying foreign ministry spokes person who speaks with a forked tongue :D
     
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    These beggars should do something productive rather than annoying people on the roads.
    Besides they are an eye sore.
     
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    recent victim of Indian stone throwing is your chinese soldiers on the LAC..
    We dont fear throwing stones even sitting in glass house unlike your Xshe who barked from glass house on Doklam.
     
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    We Indians remember things very differently - things like Indi-Chini bhai-bhai and then - welll not so bhai-bhai.

    India is an old civilization - so yes - we were throwing stones many years ago - then arrows and now missiles. :biggrin2:
     
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    Begging has become a business these days. I remember in Delhi several years ago, they made rehab centers for beggars but these beggars are are habitual and escaped rehabilitation centers. In rehabilitation centers they get free food and training on some skills. But they don't want to work.

    There were stories in newspapers of beggars death and lakhs of Rs recovered below her bed. Three are syndicate cartels that assign territories and traffic signals to these beggars. You can find the same beggar on the same signals daily. No one crosses their territory nor allows others to intrude in their territory.

    This should be treated as law and order problem rather as showing empathy with beggars. Government should send beggars to rehabilitation centers and give them free food and training in some vocation. If they are still found begging, they should be jailed. Already government is giving a lot of subsidies and old age pension to aged people.
     
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    Wait a second, if the fashion show is on 28th November then why is begging banned till 7th of Jan. That doesn't make sense.

    The whites shouldn't think so greatly of themselves. Connecting dots where there ain't one.
     
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    Correction, its Indian Media.

    Indians and their current govenment have no connection with the Indian Media. You can strike them with nano nukes for all we care.
     
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    Divide and Conquer.....create chaos..pit nations against nations...to keep hegemony going....How long this dirty game will go on ? Make India and China enemies and hegemony will continue for next 100 years..

    Koreans against Koreans...Pakistanis against Indians...vietnamies against Vietnamies....Saudis against Iranians...Kurds against Iraqis....Ukraineans against Russians....

    Divide...make nations hate each other...sell weapons...keep hegemony going with human blood...for maximum profits for corpo-crooks.... when will it stop ? When will people of the World understand and
    confront the evil force ?
     
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    and who creates this divide, MEDIA.
     
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    You guys wrote a article about China back in 2008, it's pretty fair for me to share an article about India here.

    it's interesting that you posted that toi article, I knew that china banned begging during Beijing Olympics and foreign press reported it. But it did not occur to me that indian media also joined the campaign and made a fuss over it as if such a thing would never happen in India.
     
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    Well. Indian media is diverse. Just like in West, whoever pays the particular channel, gets the song of its choice.
    TOI, Indian Express etc. write with western slant as they get money from those sources. There is no independent media in India just like there is no independent media in West.

    Liberalists media include CNN, NBC, BBC, Huffington etc. and they all sing similar song. Indian media has deteriorated a lot in last 15 years and has become sensationist, shallow, fake and extremely political....a weapon to divide the people and attack opposite party.

    The forces who benefit from chaos and division want status quo ,so they can keep making billions of dollars.
    Average human beings are left at mercy of these pathologically greedy entities.
    In past journalists had some integrity . Now, they are called "presstitutes" for good reason.

    Good thing is that India is a free societies....but too free...to evade taxes, break laws, manipulate and do fraud ,commit crimes get away with it.
    Fortunately, the current govt. is trying to bring some rule of law....its too early to say if this govt. will succeed or crooks will rule again.

    People in the World are suffering enough... Like Gandhi said "live and let live" that's what nations need. Some greater value or principles ..not just naked greed and shameless extreme materialism.

    Hinduism proclaims "the entire World is one family" Its time to practice that core Hindu belief and let peaceful progress happen to all nations.
     
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    There should be public awareness campaign never give money to any beggar. It should not be a low risk profitable business that it is.
     
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    Beggars will go down in number as Indian Govt. recently started a highly subsidized food program for poor people
    called "thali" which costs any where from Rs 2 (4 cents) to Rs5 (8 cents)

    This plate (thali) will include roti bread, lentil soup, yougurt and water. Different states of India are giving different names to this food program.
    Some people will still go for begging just like you see in any city of USA...beggars standing at traffic light intersections.
     

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