Indian AShBM

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  1. SajeevJino

    SajeevJino Long walk Elite Member

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    Indian AShBM


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    BTW Dr Chander has confirmed in his i-view to me that India is developing a rough equivalent to the DF-21D ASBM for anti-access/area denial.

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    I knew that chinese blew off a old satellite at a alttitude of 700Km. But can china destroy a Geo-stationary satellite place at a attitude of 36000Km from earth. 700 km is way far away from 36000 Kms? can anyone please clear my understanding.
     
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    Srinivas_K Senior Member Senior Member

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    India possess this technology !
     
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    SajeevJino Long walk Elite Member

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    I don't know we have such A SAT to kill geo stationary Satellites .But our Agni 5 Have capabilities to kill Satellite's which is flying at altitude of some 1000 KM ..But still we didn't tested it.


    Please Don't confuse ASAT- Anti Satellite Missile
    AShBM- Anti Shipping Ballistic Missile

    and we continue to discuss AShBM in this thread
     
  6. Bheeshma

    Bheeshma Regular Member

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    I doubt they would copy a joke like df21 when k15 exists to fill that role with some modifications
     
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    Not yet!
    But according to some Americans, Chinese is very close to that target.

    There Are Hints that China's 2013 Rocket Launch Was an Antisatellite Test | Global Security Newswire | NTI

    And here is another guy's analysis regarding the test in 2013:

    How High Did China’s May 2013 Launch Go? - All Things Nuclear
     
  9. no smoking

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    Firstly, with only 700km range, your K15 can hardly reach any aircraft carrier which can easily attack your outside this distance;
    Secondly, this "some modifications" took Chinese 20+ years and there is still no clear evidence that DF21D was tested successfully.
     
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    "Developing" can mean anything from throwing bullet points onto powerpoint slides to doing feasibility studies all the way to live-fire tests - steps which are separated not by years, but by decades. Dr Chander's response is essentially meaningless.
     
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    The range of K15 is not 700 km , unless it is carrying more than 1 tonne payload. The DF21 is just a joke and will never really find a maneuvering carrier.
     
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  13. no smoking

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    If you are aiming to turn K15 into a carrier killer, you will need to put lots of extra equipment into the warhead: sensor, radar and small engines, etc, which means you can hardly reduce the weight.

    Yes, that maybe true. But K15 has been able to reach the tech level of this junk yet, which was developed based on JL-1.
     
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    JL-1 another junk that need the sub to be surfaced to fire. When did it turn into AsHm? The K15 in Ashm mode thanks to terminal speed of mach 6+ only needs 300 kg warhead. The idea is mission kill not sink the ship.
     
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    Wouldn't Hypersoncic Brahmos should do the trick, why waste money on anti-ship ballistic missiles. HSTDV and Bhramos are already in development and these high speed kill vehicles can penetrate any hull with its sheer kinetic force.
     
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    True Brahmos-II will suffice unlike DF-21 which is mostly hot air.
     
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    Do you really know the missile what we are talking about here?

    JL-1/-1A (CSS-N-3) | Missile ThreatJL-21, JL-21A | Missile Threat
     
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    Not really an ASHM is it. It can only hit stationary targets on land just like K-15
     
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    i assume when we say AshBM -Anti Ship - by ship we mean AirCraft carrier only not other small ships

    I dont think anyone will use a volley of 5-6 AShBM to kill a corvette / desstoryer this will used only for Aircrat carrier

    Now if the purpose is to take the aircraft carrier out of the equation we have a potential missile - Brahmos and in future Brahmos 2 & LRCM (super/hyper sonic)

    See to make an aircraft carrier ineffective we dont need to sink it. we just need to make the runway deck unusable which means a big hole on the TOP DECK such that it is not repairable on seas.

    once the TOP DECk is unusable for Takeofff / Landing the carrier is out of the equation as the power of the carrier is in the Aircrafts it can launch

    Now if you remmber correctly then in last few days the Brahmos was tested with Top Attack/Steep dive profile

    i.e. just imagine

    Brahmos are launched in salvo mode at a carrier

    it approaches in sea skimming mode

    many are taken out by the Group defences

    But what we need is only 1 to go through the defences into the min defence ring where the defence systems will be ineffective

    Then the brahmos can go from sea skimming mode to dive altitude then go for manouvering S curve - steep dive at supersonic speeds and it need not hit at any particular point

    it can hit any where on the landing /takeoff deck

    the only problem is release range 250Km for Brahmos - if the range wud have been higher say 500-700 km ( as is proposed to LRCM) and if it is hypersonic then the chances of it being launched undetected and going thru the defences wud be higher
     
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    http://ibnlive.in.com/blogs/sauravjha/2976/65363/interview-with-dr-avinash-chander-drdo-chief-and-scientific-adviser-to-defence-minister.html
     
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    It will based on Shaurya.
     

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