Indian Army to test their armour in Gujarat FSL

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    Defence personnel will soon get 'ballistic protection' from Gujarat, as the Forensic Science Laboratory (FSL) here will be conducting tests for bullet-proof jackets and head gears used by the Indian Army.
    Defence personnel will soon get 'ballistic protection' from Gujarat, as the Forensic Science Laboratory (FSL) here will be conducting tests for bullet-proof jackets and head gears used by the Indian Army.

    "Gujarat FSL will soon tie-up with the Indian Army by signing an MoU to conduct ballistic tests for their armour like bullet-proof jackets head-gears," Director of Gujarat Forensic Science Laboratory (FSL) J M Vyas told PTI.

    Earlier, Gujarat FSL had tested hard and soft armour panels, bullet-proof jackets and helmets produced by a US-based multinational company which are being used by armies and police organisations across the globe. Vyas believes that Indian Army has put trust on Gujarat FSL considering the transparency and cost-effective testing here.

    "When we conduct any ballistic tests here, it is always displayed to the client and seller through our transparent range made with bullet-proof glass. This has helped the Indian Army to invest trust in us," Vyas said.

    Earlier the Indian Army had conducted ballistic tests for their bullet-proof jackets and head-gears at a Chandigarh-based Forensic Science Laboratory, Vyas added. The ballistic tests for bullet proof jackets and head gears will cost the country's army around Rs 15,000 per unit which is very reasonable compared to the international rates, Vyas said.

    If the tests are conducted at any foreign country, then the cost may run into crores of rupees, he said.

    According to highly-placed sources in Gujarat FSL, some of the Delhi-based army officials also visited the FSL here and its ballistic range .

    The FSL's Ballistic Research Centre will also provide ballistic tests for Indian Army's armoured vehicles, the sources said. The Ballistic Research Centre is under construction at present and will start functioning in the coming month after which the FSL will conduct tests for the armoured vehicles, they added.

    Indian Army to test their armour in Gujarat FSL - IBNLive
     
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    Is this jacket or plate? If it jacket than I assume it is Kevlar. Kevlar does not protect from rifle caliber. Kevlar only protect from pistol and low velocity shrapnel. Plates will protect from rifle bullet depending on the level of protection. However they weight between 20 to 40 lbs depending on the level of protection. Basically almost half of the weight a US military personnel carry is due to the body armor.

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    "Gujarat FSL will soon tie-up with the Indian Army by signing an MoU to conduct ballistic tests for their armour like bullet-proof jackets head-gears," Director of Gujarat Forensic Science Laboratory (FSL) J M Vyas told PTI.
     
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    I'm asking because there might be different terminology involved. There are two type of personal body armor, soft (Kevlar, etc) and hard (plate). Western militaries use both but the R&D money goes to plate armor. So that's where the confusion came from.

    Soft body armor is only good for pistol and shotgun calibers. Plate armor will protect the wearer from pistol, shotgun, and rifle caliber. Let assume jacket mean soft body armor.

    In the USA all police officers have to wear soft body armor. Soft body armor have been around of 100 years now. Soft body armor R&D is mainly funded by civilian companies. While the weight is noticeable it can be worn all day long without much discomfort. Soft body armor is the main reason why sub-guns became obsolete. Normal pistol calibers cannot defeat them. Sub-gun replaced by PDW that chamber rifle calibers is design to bypass the protection. Soft body armor is pretty much useless in regard to military personal body armor usage.

    Western military spend a lot of money trying to improve (make them lighter with greater protection) plate armor. They don't waste their time and money on soft body armor development. A standard military armor package is a chest rig which can double as a soft body armor. Chest rig is made out of Kevlar (or the plate is protected by Kevlar) and have two pouch (front and back) to insert the plate armor. So what you have is soft and hard body armor in one package. Giving the wearer maximum protection.

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    Unless the jacket body armor is design as a chest rig that will allow plate armor, it is pretty much a waste of money. In fact I wouldn't wear it. It add weight and give basically no protection in a military fire fight. You're better off adding two or four magazines than wearing the jacket soft body armor.

    Weight is the main issue for plated armor. It really really heavy and uncomfortable. Like I posted it can weight up to 40lbs (helmet + Chest Rig + Plate). All muscle and no fat else it will break you in half.
     
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    Indian army has issued tenders for level IV body armour with a stipulated weight limit of 10 and 11.3 Kg for medium and large sized vest respectively. They will have plate inserts for necessary protection. As far as helmets go, it is hard to top the ballistic protection offered by the Patka, which is essentially a steel plate vest for the head and weighs almost half a kilo more. Helmets top at level IIIA protection, while a Patka offers Level III protection. There are a few Indian companies that are working on Level IV helmets, but not sure if that is a part of the requirement.
     
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