Indian Army Aviation Wing

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  1. tharun

    tharun Patriot Senior Member

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    It is s the time to change the overall command structure of the defense forces..
    1) We need to have the tri-command first
    2)We need a specialist rocket force whose job is to take out strategic targets with surface-to-surface missiles Varying from 150+km range MLRS to ICBM's and cruise missiles.
    3)All the attack helicopters should be re assigned to army,because they are the one's who need it.
    4)Air force should only concentrate on fixed wing and transport helicopters.
    5)For air defence we need to have four layers,
    Anti-ballistic and long range should be manned by a separate command,just like rocket force.
    Short and medium range should defending bases and airfields should be manned by the respective commands like army and IAF
    6)Army should have Pantsir-S1 type air defence for covering it;s frontlines in combat.
     
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  2. TPFscopes

    TPFscopes Rest in Peace Senior Member

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    India Freezes Purchase of Additional AH-64E Apache From US ::

    Indian Army was to receive its first tranche of eleven AH-64E Apache helicopters under the options clause of an earlier deal; but government says it has no immediate plans to place the order.

    Hard-pressed by operational requirements at the country's restive north-east region, the Indian Army, in its requisition, had demanded that they be provided with eleven US made helicopters. However, in a clear indication of Indian government's unwillingness to purchase additional AH-64E Apache helicopters from the United States, the Defense Acquisition Council (DAC) has called off its meeting that was to discuss the Indian Army's requisition. The DAC is India's apex decision making body for defense purchases.

    In September 2015, The Narendra Modi led government had cleared a deal with Boeing for the purchase of 22 AH-64E Apache helicopters. Ever since, the Indian Army and the Indian Air Force have been in a tug of war for acquiring the aircraft. The earlier regime, led by Dr Manmohan Singh, had said that any future procurement of attack helicopters would be for the Indian Army. However, the Indian Air Force laid claim on all 22 helicopters and even refused to heed to the Indian Army's proposal to share half of the fleet.

    The Indian Army then moved a separate proposal seeking 39 attack helicopters. According to the proposal, the Indian Army was to receive its first tranche of eleven helicopters under the options clause of the 2015 deal. But India's Minister of State for Defense, Subhash Bhamre informed the Parliament earlier this week that the government has no plans to expand the 2015 deal with Boeing. "No follow-up order has so far been placed with any foreign ordnance company for procurement of attack helicopters," he said.

    Presently, the Indian Army operates the homemade Dhruv-WSI (weapon system integrated) attack helicopters. It has already placed an order of over 100 such helicopters from state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. 50% of the components of the twin engine, multi-role helicopter is imported. They are considered highly efficient for close air support and high altitude operations. Dhruv Helicopter is equipped with 20 millimeter turret gun and can carry 70 millimeter rockets, the Mistral air to air missile, air to ground missile, helmet pointing system and anti-tank missiles.
     
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  3. aditya g

    aditya g Senior Member Senior Member

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    Ask and ye shall receive

    Mi-17:

    Mi-17 with MAGs Garuds.png

    ALH Dhruv:

    Dhruv MAG MG 01.PNG

     
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  4. Arihant

    Arihant Regular Member

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    6 more Apaches approved by defence ministry.

    रक्षा मंत्रालय ने 4168 करोड़ लागत के 6 अमेरिकी अपाचे हेलीकॉप्टर खरीद को दी मंजूरी


    Source- Aaj tak.
     
  5. HarshBardhan

    HarshBardhan Casper

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    BREAKING: Indian MoD clears procurement of 6 Boeing Defense AH-64E Apache choppers worth ₹4,168 crore for the Indian Army. These will be the Army's first attack helicopters.

    Source : Livefist

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  6. Cutting Edge 2

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    Number is reduced to only 6? IA was suppose to get 11.:frusty:

    Snatch those 22 Apaches from IAF and give it to IA.
     
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  7. Cutting Edge 2

    Cutting Edge 2 Regular Member

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    BTW India's Apaches, both for the IAF and Army, will sport a dark green skin.

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  8. TPFscopes

    TPFscopes Rest in Peace Senior Member

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    I think IAF wants them in Standard Grey scheme
     
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  9. HarshBardhan

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    Many people will ( and have got on Facebook defence forums ) heart attack when they heard Army had deal of purchasing 6 Apache E for 4,168 crore rupees .

    Unit cost is around 35 million dollar , the overall rate is justified with Weapon, spare and logistics which will be different for army , it's not counted under IAF deal .

    Glad that Apaches will be entering into formal Indian service

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  10. Cutting Edge 2

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    Nope, dark green for both. IAF too (surprisingly!)
     
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  11. TPFscopes

    TPFscopes Rest in Peace Senior Member

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    As of now, Helina and LAHAT
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  12. patriots

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    are these missiles tested in lch
     
  13. Vijyes

    Vijyes Regular Member

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    AURA 1 UAV tested with helina but kept a secret. I don't know why but India doesn't divulge details about such tests or induction.
     
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    Bhai Saab!!!!
    You seem to be living in a parallel universe .....

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  15. Vijyes

    Vijyes Regular Member

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    Here is the proof of AURA 1 using Helina:

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    If a UAV can fire Helina, so can a helicopter.
     
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    ezsasa Senior Member Senior Member

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    First Those were takeoff and landing tests, not firing trials...

    Second AURA looks like this...
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  17. tsunami

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    That one is Rustom-1. But it is quite possible that halina firing from Rustom already happened.
     
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    Indian Army Sanctioned Apache Attack Helicopters
    By Gulshan Luthra
    8/23/2017 5:34:04 AM
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    The Government has sanctioned six Boeing Apache AH 64E attack helicopters for the Indian Army, marking a beginning for its Aviation Corps for these flying tanks.
    The Army had actually projected a requirement of 39 attack helicopters, 13 for each of its three Strike Corps, but has been given approval in principle for 33 machines. It was also decided that 11 Apaches under the Options clause in the Indian Air Force (IAF) contract for 22 Apaches would go to the Army but only six of these are being taken.
    Under the Options clause, valid till September 2017, India can buy 11 machines, or 50 per cent of those ordered, at the same price as those contracted for IAF in 2015. The option for the remaining five is now lapsed.
    The six Apaches will cost Rs 4168 Crores (approx. $640 million) with weapons and spares.
    Delivery for most defence equipment globally is 36 months after the first payment is made to seal the contract. The 22 Apaches ordered by IAF are already under construction at the Boeing facility in Mesa, Arizona.
    MoD sources indicated that the Government is trying to clear various backlogs. Hence the best possible use is being made of available funds and for the time being, only six Apaches are being taken. All the three Services actually have long pending requirements, and funding has to be rationalized for the coming next years.
    According to sources, the Army Aviation Corps’ projection is for 33 Boeing Apaches, 114 HAL Light Combat Helicopters (LCH) and about 70 Rudras, the armed version of HAL Advanced Light Helicopter (ALH).
    Reacting to the MoD’s announcement, Boeing India President Pratyush Kumar said: “Boeing welcomes the opportunity to support the Indian Army on their requirements. The AH-64E Apache is the world’s most advanced multi-role combat helicopter. With this development, we look forward to supporting all three Indian defence forces – the Air Force, Navy and now the Army.”
    He pointed out, significantly, that “under Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s Make in India initiative, AH-64 Apache fuselages and other aero structures are (now) being manufactured at the Tata Boeing Aerospace joint venture facility in Hyderabad.”
    Notably, the AH 64E model is the latest and also now being inducted by the US Army. Similarly, the Boeing P 8I, another formidable aircraft, to hunt submarines, has been inducted nearly at the same time by the US and Indian navies.
    With its latest war technologies, the Boeing Apache is deadly for an enemy because of its multi-role, multi-mission day-and-night all weather strike capability. Because of its Lockheed Martin Longbow combat radar, the helicopter’s pilots can locate an enemy hidden deep in foliage and neutralize the target with precision attack Hellfire – also by Lockheed Martin – missiles.
    For air-to-air defence, it is equipped with Raytheon’s famous Stinger missiles, which are also on offer to India for its indigenous Light Combat Helicopter (LCH) if India opts for them.
    Then of course, there are rockets and machine guns, target acquisition and night vision systems, enabling its two pilots to literally make the mincemeat of a target.
    Normally, one out of every three Apaches is equipped with the Longbow combat radar, but then, it is up to a user to enhance or reduce this requirement. The exact figure for these radars for Indian forces is not known.
    Boeing has sold more than 2,200 Apaches since 1986 with mandatory approval from the US Government under its Foreign Military Sales (FMS) programme for combat systems.
    It may be noted that IAF operates its combat helicopters – at present Soviet vintage Mi 35s – in coordination with the Army, and there are always some Army officers posted in IAF units accordingly. In case of hostilities, all the IAF and Army assets work together, and so would the 22 + 6 Apaches.
    The Apache is powered by two General Electric gas turbine engines and can be in the air for three hours. It has capability to search and attack multiple targets simultaneously. Secure frequency hopping terrestrial and satellite connectivity onboard is standard while its fuel tanks are self-sealing in case of a hit.
    (Courtesy - India Strategic)

    Link: http://theindiasaga.com/defence-security/indian-army-sanctioned-apache-attack-helicopters
     
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  19. Chinmoy

    Chinmoy Senior Member Senior Member

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    For IOC it would be LAHAT. HELINA has been tested with Rudra, but no tests has yet been carried out on LCH.
     
  20. Vijyes

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    Yes, helicopters don't exactly fire missiles. Nag/Helina is like a rocket but is also accurate and guided like a missile. For practical purposes, it is called ATGM (anti-tank guided missi), a missile. However it is just a third generation RPG (Rocket propelled Grenade) in reality
     
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