Indian Army Artillery

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  1. shuvo@y2k10

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    “India will become one of the largest exporters of military hardware in the next 10-15 years”: Baba Kalyani

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    Baba Kalyani says Kalyani Group will turn over Rs 2,000 crore annually in defence manufacture

    Q. Large metals giants, like Krupp in Germany, have traditionally spearheaded the development of national defence industries. Is the Kalyani Group riding on such capabilities?

    We are the Krupp of India. In fact, two years ago, we beat ThyssenKrupp in their own backyard to become the world’s biggest supplier of metallurgical components. Before 2005, we were not even in this business. Today, we have 60 per cent of the global market in high performance metallurgical components.

    We are now global leaders in metallurgy. We make our steel, we forge it, we machine it, we heat treat it. Very few companies in the world can match us in manufacturing demanding products like gun barrels. Companies come to us from Europe for design, engineering, testing and validation of metallurgical components.

    Q. Artillery systems are your new thrust. What are the opportunities here?

    The Indian army needs artillery systems. The programme for 1,500 towed guns alone will be worth Rs 25,000-30,000 crore, at Rs 15-16 crore rupees per gun. The army’s website projects a requirement for 4,000 different guns – ultra-light, self-propelled, towed and others. This is an Rs 45,000-50,000 crore opportunity, of which we can snap up half, based on our capability and cost competitiveness.

    Q. How much revenue would this generate on an annual basis?

    About Rs 2,000 crore annually, counting replacement parts and maintenance.

    Q. How big is the Kalyani Group in defence today?

    This year we will do Rs 500 crore of defence business. This is basically components like wheels for tanks, armoured vehicle components and ammunition shells to Europe. But, once we are asked to manufacture, say 1,000 Advanced Towed Artillery Gun Systems (ATAGS), our defence turnover will rise quickly.

    Q. Is it wise to put so many eggs in the ATAGS basket?

    The ATAGS team has created a new benchmark in 155-millimetre artillery. For decades, no similar gun has been designed anywhere in the world. This is the first gun in 30 years designed afresh, from scratch. This will be a world-beater. Next year it will be in every Jane’s magazine. Nobody has a gun like this. With a range of 45 plus kilometres, it’s an amazing weapon.

    Q. You are also developing a titanium-based ultra-light howitzer (ULH). But the army has already bought these guns from abroad…

    The army has bought 145 M777 guns from BAE Systems. By March [2018], our indigenous ULH will be ready to compete with that gun. The army needs many more.

    Q. Has MoD conveyed interest?

    When [former defence minister] Manohar Parrikar visited us to inaugurate our plant, he was interested. We showed him the model of the ULH we were building and he assured us: “For all future guns we will come to you.”

    But we’ll have to pass evaluation and we are ready to go through the process. We are very confident. It is not just for India, I’m sure our ULH will find buyers worldwide. Even Japan is interested in light artillery.

    Q. Private defence firms like yours are relying heavily on being nominated as “strategic partner” (SP). What are your views on the new SP policy?

    Honestly, I think we need a lot of clarification about the SP policy. I’ve heard three versions of the SP model. But, looking at it positively, defence production will get a boost.

    Q. There is criticism that the SP policy is exclusionary, with nominated firms gaining everything, and the other left without orders. For example if you are chosen as SP for land systems, you get excluded from aerospace manufacture…

    This is not correct. We can be a strategic partner for one segment, and a development partner, or Tier 1 or Tier 2 vendor for another. For building a fighter in India, at least 150 companies will be needed. There is space for all, not just the strategic partner.

    Q. So the Kalyani Group is betting big on defence?

    In the next 10-15 years, India will become one of the largest exporters of military hardware. It may not be fighters or highly sophisticated stuff, but will include equipment like land systems, artillery, ammunition, missiles, bombs; we will master these technologies quickly, and do it cheaper than anybody else. The Kalyani Group will be a big part of this.

    Source : http://ajaishukla.blogspot.in/2017/10/metallurgy-skills-are-kalyani-groups.html
     
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    that there gentlemen is my type of Indian
     
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    Hell yeah!!! If I remember correctly, FARP had a provision for increasing ULWHs to 645. If Baba Kalyani and Mandus group can pull it off, there can be other versions of the gun too. Let's hope he keeps his promise and delivers the guns at a substantially reduced prices.
     
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    2 good news :
    1. ULH will be ready for trials by March 2018 i.e 4 months from now.
    2. Bharat 52 is in testing phase.Don't know where.
     
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    Anyone knows the exact number of guns required in each catagory and hiw many have been ordered?
     
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    On the recent topic of shells damaging both M777 and Dhanush, here's a video which roughly explains the process of making shell bodies. It also provides a glimpse of the quality control needed to maintain correct dimensions.

     
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    Saw this beauty in the National War Museum, Scotland. The British 25 Pounder field howitzer was used primarily in WW2. The gun also served in the Indian Army until 1980s and saw action in the 1965 and 1971 wars. The 87mm gun was later replaced by the indigenous 105mm Light Field Gun.
    This piece has been refurbished to its World War 2 operational condition and aesthetic.

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    Latest Dhanush being rolled out (notice the serial no.). Most possibly with muzzle brake modification.
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    Electronic artillery fuse manufacturing facility launched at BEL

    The development comes after a ‘compliance report’ from the Comptroller and auditor general (CAG) of India, which was tabled before the Parliament in July this year, revealed 83 per cent shortage of artillery fuses with the Army.



    A STATE-OF-THE-ART electronic artillery fuse manufacturing facility was launched at the Pune unit of Bharat Electronics Ltd (BEL) on October 27.

    The development comes after a ‘compliance report’ from the Comptroller and auditor general (CAG) of India, which was tabled before the Parliament in July this year, revealed 83 per cent shortage of artillery fuses with the Army.
    Artillery fuses, known as the brain of the munition, are the devices that initiate explosion. They also determine how the explosion would be initiated — on contact with the target or some time after the launch.

    Meanwhile, officials from the BEL said the newly-inaugurated facility can produce at least 50,000 fuses per month and the capacity can be increased as per requirement. The facility, located on the BEL campus, on Pashan NDA Road in Pune, was inaugurated by Lt General Shamsher Singh, director general of quality assurance, along with MV Gowtama, chairman and managing director, BEL, and Nataraj Krishnappa, director, Maj Gen Sanjay Chauhan, controller (ammunition) and Dinesh Batra, general manager, BEL, Pune. Capt Raju Kothari, deputy general manager, compered the inaugural ceremony.

    Senior scientists from the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) laboratories and representatives of various defence establishments, involved in the process of manufacturing fuse were also present at the function.

    A senior BEL official said, “Pune unit of the BEL, headquartered in Defence Public Sector Undertaking in Bengaluru, which has a multi-product facility that manufactures laser-based range finding equipment, power packs for wireless radio sets, infantry combat vehicle-based Nuclear Biological Chemical and reconnaissance systems, along with X Ray baggage scanners. The facility has diversified into the field of electronic artillery fuses. BEL has nine manufacturing units spread all over the country.”

    “The newly-inaugurated facility has a capacity to make more than 50,000 electronic fuses per month, and can augment this capacity as per the requirement of the Army. BEL, Pune, also plans to expand the fuse manufacturing capability in the near future. With this facility going online, BEL is confident of fulfilling all the needs of electronic fuses for our artillery, today and in times to come,” he added.

    http://indianexpress.com/article/ci...nufacturing-facility-launched-at-bel-4913016/
     
  11. R A Varun

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    great, after all there are some indegenous fuse making in the news, a baD TIME TO the trollers of imports by the armed forces.
     
  12. R A Varun

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    did you say its fifty thousand fuses per month, but according to the data available indian armed forces roughly has ten thousand all kinds of artillery guns in its inventory, will it be sufficient for the guns.

    and please throw some light on indegenious artillery supply chain manufacturing units
     
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    OFB recently won the 300 unit M-46 upgunning to 155 mm project beating out pvt competitors.

     
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    Indian Army practicing with Mortar rounds!!!



    are they 80 mm mortars, ?
    looks like they are wasting ammo..........!!!
     
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    81mm mortars. There is no relaying so 15 rpm is the rate of fire which can be achieved. So waste? No.
     
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    From Gaya military academy :

    1. FH-77
    2. D-30
    3. 75mm
    4. M46s
     
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    Bro post the link of video .

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    Some of the largest Cannons from Medieval Bharatvarsh..

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    Jaivana cannon


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    This 280 mm, iron ball cannon belonged to the State of Jaipur. Jaivana was cast in 1720 by Jai Singh II and it seems it took four elephants to make it swirl around its axis!!. The cannon is large enough to fire a 50 kgs stone ball using hundred kgs of gun powder.

    The Jaivana cannon is the largest wheeled cannon ever constructed. It is located at the Jaigarh Fort, Jaipur. It was cast in 1720, during the reign of Maharaja Sawai Jai Singh II of Jaipur. The formidable strength of its builder, the scientifically inclined warrior Sawai Jai Singh II, lay in the large number of artillery and copious supply of munitions which he maintained. Jaivan rests on a high 4 wheeled carriage. The front wheels are 2.74 m in diameter and the rear wheels are 1.37 m in diameter.The length of the barrel of the cannon is 20 feet 2 inches and it weighs 50 tons.

    Its sheer size gives some idea of what a monumental task Jaivana's manufacture might have been. The 50 tonne cannon rests on six massive wheels, each 9 ft in circumference. The cannon is 31 ft long with a 20 ft barrel that can be raised or lowered by an 8 ft tall elevating screw. Four elephants were used to rotate it. The cannon is believed to have been fired only once- towards Chakshu, 22 km away. About 100 kg of explosives launched a 50 kg iron ball which created a huge depression when it landed. It is a pond now.

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    Jahan Koshna

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    Made by another Karmakar brother, Janardan, this 286 mm iron ball shot cannon joined the powerful artillery at Murshidabad in West Bengal in 1637. Jahan Koshna or the “Destroyer of the World” weighs seven tonnes. The cannon is made of eight metals like silver, gold, lead, copper, zinc, tin, iron and mercury.

    The Karmakars of Bengal are traditionally blacksmiths but Janardan and his brother Jagannath were dedicated gunsmiths. Janardan made this gun under the instructions of Hara Ballav Das of Dhaka.


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    Dal Madan Kaman

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    The 286 mm iron ball shot cannon was made in 1565 by Jagannath Karmakar. It was commissioned by Maharaja Bir Hambir to protect the Malla kingdom. The name means “Destroyer of Enemy” – dal means enemy or horde and mardana means slayer.

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    Thanjavur Cannon

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    This 250mm cannon was produced by Vikad Naikwade in 1620. This is an excellent example for bombarding canon.t belonged to the King of Thanjavur and was used in 1650 during the Nayak period to protect Thanjavur from the enemies who entered from the eastern gate of the city. This cannon was cast at Kollamendu near Thanjavur and joined the armoury in 1620.

    25 ft long Cannon weighs 22Tonnes. The outer diameter is 37 inches and the inner dia 25 inches can fire a cannon ball (iron) of 1000 Kg weight. No wonder it finds fourth place in the list of Largest Cannons fired in the World History.
    This Cannon was named "Rajagopala Beerangi (Cannon), but popularly known as "Daasimettu beerangi" is placed on an elevated (25'high) defense barricade at the eastern Rampart of the Tanjavur Fort.


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    Hope the never ending trails ends up and these system see service in mass, War was above us and none of this system were available during that time ..
     
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    Very enlightening post thanks for sharing, these cannons would've if used wisely would've shredded the invaders into pieces...
     

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