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IAF officially says Technology of Su-30MKI was transfarred to India
Question : If technology Su-30 was transfarred, then why no major success in fighter jet development? Why we could not make another Su-30 type heavy role fighter jet? View attachment 22220
Very easy answer,no accountability in HAL and ARDE.

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Reasons:
1) Radar is imported
2) Engine is partially imported (FADEC etc are Indian but critical parts are Russian)
3) Su30 is an all metal aircraft with one of the highest RCS.

The critical parts in all aircrafts are engine and Radar. When India doesn't have them, what is the point of designing such a plane?

India is actually planning to make engine for AMCA and Su30 at 80/125kN so that in future AMCA and Su30 can be made side by side with same engine. India needs engine. Engine technology is the key here.
 

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we dont need large number of heavy fighters becoz look at china they operating large fleet of su 27 copy and and su27 the prob they facing its high maintenance and high cost for flying time .. if we use our su30mki in all duties its brain less move becoz as i mentioned above the maintenance and high operating cost ,also our enemy can anticipate our move becoz of common platform we using for eg if we use su30mki for all air combat and cas role china can figure out a possible way to counter Indian airforce and bring down our fighters more fast(even we have very gud pilots finding one week piont in our flying platform enough to kill the entire af like ew vulnerability or others) remember ..in desert strom iraque lost most of its mig 25 much power full than f15 becoz UAF found that mig 25 need larger turn radius and it's larger rcs so uaf planed its counter according to it so they where so successive in that air combat ...

similarly now we need larger lca like light combat platforms becoz lca have much more quick reaction time and less maintenance and cost of operation(only when lca performance in ful fill condition its my assumption) using su30 mki like platform for larger counter offensive or air interception of larger fleet of ufo's ( un identified flying object enemy aircraft's)
 

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we dont need large number of heavy fighters becoz look at china they operating large fleet of su 27 copy and and su27 the prob they facing its high maintenance and high cost for flying time .. if we use our su30mki in all duties its brain less move becoz as i mentioned above the maintenance and high operating cost ,also our enemy can anticipate our move becoz of common platform we using for eg if we use su30mki for all air combat and cas role china can figure out a possible way to counter Indian airforce and bring down our fighters more fast(even we have very gud pilots finding one week piont in our flying platform enough to kill the entire af like ew vulnerability or others) remember ..in desert strom iraque lost most of its mig 25 much power full than f15 becoz UAF found that mig 25 need larger turn radius and it's larger rcs so uaf planed its counter according to it so they where so successive in that air combat ...

similarly now we need larger lca like light combat platforms becoz lca have much more quick reaction time and less maintenance and cost of operation(only when lca performance in ful fill condition its my assumption) using su30 mki like platform for larger counter offensive or air interception of larger fleet of ufo's ( un identified flying object enemy aircraft's)
It is possible to replace rafale with Su30 at least. Su30 is much cheaper than Rafale, if it was just about cost. Also, yes, Su30 does cost a lot to operate as it is a fuel guzzler, but it is a potent fighter and is definitely better than imports
 

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Cabinet approves transfer on lease of 6.5628 acres of Defence land to Kendriya VidyalayaSangathan at Air Force Station Kanpur for construction of school building


The Union Cabinet chaired by the Prime Minister Shri Narendra Modi has approved the transfer on lease of 6.5628 acres of Defence land to Kendriya Vidyalaya Sangathan(KVS) at Air Force Station Kanpur (AFS Kanpur). It will be used for construction of school building and other associated infrastructure in partial modification of its earlier decision on 16.06.2011 wherein it had approved transfer 8.90 acres of defence land to KVS at AFS, Kanpur.
 

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Reasons:
1) Radar is imported
2) Engine is partially imported (FADEC etc are Indian but critical parts are Russian)
3) Su30 is an all metal aircraft with one of the highest RCS.

The critical parts in all aircrafts are engine and Radar. When India doesn't have them, what is the point of designing such a plane?

India is actually planning to make engine for AMCA and Su30 at 80/125kN so that in future AMCA and Su30 can be made side by side with same engine. India needs engine. Engine technology is the key here.
India don't have A2G mode software coding
(if we neglect uttam's development). The forging of the blades from materials is done in India.(materials from russian), and I guess Hal assembles radar with indian made processor.

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Ministry of Defence
27-December, 2017 15:12 IST
Republic Day 2018 – Fly-Past – An IAF Appeal

In view of the fly-past at heights varying from 60 to 500 meters and the associated flight safety concerns posted by birds, the IAF appeals to all citizens of Delhi and its neighbourhood to keep their areas clean and avoid throwing eatables, garbage, dead animals or carcasses in the open in all the days leading upto 26 January.


Responsible citizens are also requested to alert the nearest Air Force Unit or Police Station and report instances of carcasses found in the open. The vulnerable areas that come in the route include Palam, Najafgarh drains, Tihar Jail, War Cemetery and areas adjoining Rashtrapati Bhawan.


Birds pose a serious threat to aircraft flying at low level. Eatables thrown out in the open attract birds, to ensure a safe fly-past, the citizens of Delhi and its neighbourhood are requested not to throw eatables and garbage in the open. Also, if they find any carcass out in the open they are requested to report to the nearest Air Force Unit/ Police Station to arrange for its prompt disposal.

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India don't have A2G mode software coding
(if we neglect uttam's development). The forging of the blades from materials is done in India.(materials from russian), and I guess Hal assembles radar with indian made processor.

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Coding is never the concern. We have developed UTTAM but it has only A2A as of now. Nevertheless, coding is a piece of cake for India. IT industry is like bread and butter for Indians.

The engines are not fully Indian. Some critical parts are Russian. The processor of radar may be Indian but the radar T/R modules is not Indian. The signal processing is one thing whereas the radar itself is another.
 

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Coding is never the concern. We have developed UTTAM but it has only A2A as of now. Nevertheless, coding is a piece of cake for India. IT industry is like bread and butter for Indians.

The engines are not fully Indian. Some critical parts are Russian. The processor of radar may be Indian but the radar T/R modules is not Indian. The signal processing is one thing whereas the radar itself is another.
Nah it don't, A2G mode what met MMR fate. And currently it is the major concern for UTTAM team as well.

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If individually each aircraft datas are taken....
This is what should have been strength of IAF (beyond 2030, after retirements of Mig-21/27/29, Mirage-2000 and Jaguars)
Tejas 294
Rafale 126
FGFA 214
Su-30MKI Super Sukhoi 312
AMCA Unknown no

But now only 272 MKI, 126 Tejas & 36 Rafales in sight
Around 2030:
  • MiG-21 will be retired (or will be kept in reserve storage). Both MiG-21 and Jaguars need to go. LCA should be able to do the job of both MiG-21 and Jaguar and perform better.
  • MiG-23 and MiG-27 should also go, but we need something to replace that. AMCA would have been a good option, but I don't see the possibility of any induction by 2030.
  • Sukhoi-30s and MiG-29, and/or iterations thereof, would probably continue to be in service in 2030.
  • FGFA might be inducted in some numbers, although it might be possible that India will induct PAK-FA before FGFA is inducted if at all, once we hit 2030.
  • Rafales will also be there in 2030.
 

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Around 2030:
  • MiG-21 will be retired (or will be kept in reserve storage). Both MiG-21 and Jaguars need to go. LCA should be able to do the job of both MiG-21 and Jaguar and perform better.
  • MiG-23 and MiG-27 should also go, but we need something to replace that. AMCA would have been a good option, but I don't see the possibility of any induction by 2030.
  • Sukhoi-30s and MiG-29, and/or iterations thereof, would probably continue to be in service in 2030.
  • FGFA might be inducted in some numbers, although it might be possible that India will induct PAK-FA before FGFA is inducted if at all, once we hit 2030.
  • Rafales will also be there in 2030.
LCA MK2 can take over the jobs of MiG27, Jaguar, Mirage 2000, MiG21 too. MiG29 has unique features of short take off. It is intermediate between Mk2 and AMCA.

The speed of project will depend upon the government. There is no reason to say that AMCA won't be ready by 2030 if NDA is in power.

The US government commencs process to release armed Avenger drones to the IAF
This process has been going on forever.
 

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IAF bids farewell to MiG-27 ML Bahadur
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The last MiG-27 ML aircraft roared over Hasimara Air Force base in Bengal on Thursday for the last time as the IAF bade farewell to this legacy fleet in a function, a Defence spokesperson said today. The MiG-27 ML, codenamed ‘Bahadur’ in India, has had an impeccable track record in its more than three decades of glorious service to the nation, the spokesperson said in a statement.

The formidable strike aircraft of Russian origin has the single most powerful engine in the world and variable geometry wing which allows the pilot to change the wing sweep angle while flying as per the mission requirements to achieve optimum flying characteristics, it said.

This swing wing fighter bomber was inducted into the IAF fleet in the late 1980s. Being a dedicated ground attack aircraft, it was one of the main strike aircraft of the IAF.

With its sophisticated avionics and weapon computers, it is capable of delivering a variety of loads in different modes of attack with immense precision, the statement said.

Being a very stable weapon platform with good forward visibility and all around view, it can drop bombs, rockets, precision munitions guided by TV/laser and also fire air-to-air missiles for self defence thus making it a lethal and a potent weapon platform.

MiG-27 ML had proved its worth in various operations, including in Kargil and earned rich accolades in numerous international exercises held in India.

The pilots proudly call themselves ‘Swing Wingers’ and have always vouched the aircraft’s precise weapon delivery and rapid acceleration, the statement said.

Though the last MLs retire, they are not the last swing wing aircraft in service as few of them got a midlife avionics upgrade and continue to serve the nation. They are called MiG-27 UPG and are presently based in Jodhpur.

The 22 Squadron, known as ‘Swifts’ was the last squadron of the IAF flying the MiG-27 MLs. The squadron has a rich history and is known for undertaking the famous ‘Boyra Day Operations’ in Gnat aircraft, marking the beginning of 1971 War.

One of the youngest fighter squadrons, it converted to the MLs in February 1990. The lethal MiG-27 aircraft, with its range, speed and ferocity in attack has always been in perfect harmony with the ‘Swift’, who bade it farewell with full military honours.

Squadron head Group Captain S L Mahajan, who after a stint in Sukhoi-30 MKI, proudly led the last ML.

The ‘Swift’ pilots are slated to move to other squadrons/appointments and the squadron would be number plated for new induction.
 

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Ministry of Defence
29-December, 2017 17:51 IST
Air Chief Marshal BS Dhanoa flies the last sortie of the ‘Hawkeyes’

Air Chief Marshal BS Dhanoa PVSM AVSM YSM VM ADC, Chief of the Air Staff is on a three day visit from 28-30 Dec 17 to Air Force Station Nal, one of the premier air bases operating the MiG-21 aircraft.

On arrival he was received by Air Commodore Rajat Mohan VM, Air Officer Commanding Air Force Station Nal and other senior officers of the Station, where 108 Squadron, the ‘Hawkeyes’ is being Number Plated.

Chief of the Air Staff, callsign ‘Air Force One’, flew the last sortie of the ‘Hawkeyes’ thus bringing a glorious end to the reign of the T-96 aircraft, with the Squadron. During the course of his visit, he addressed and interacted with personnel of the Station. During his address he emphasized on the importance of aerospace safety, its various aspects and stressed on the physical security of the base. The Chief congratulated and conveyed his best wishes to all personnel and their families for the New Year.

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Nal Airport,Nal-Bikaner Air Force Station
 

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Indian Air Force, Army to Buy 15 Light Combat Helicopters


The Indian Air Force (IAF) and Indian Army (IA) are expected to purchase 15 indigenously built and designed Light Combat Helicopters (LCH) from Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), according to a December 22 company statement.

“HAL has received a Request for Proposal (RFP) for 15 Limited Series Light Combat Helicopters (LCH) from the Indian Air Force (IAF) and the Indian Army today,” the statement reads. The IAF is to receive ten, and the IA five.

The Indian Ministry of Defense (MoD) cleared the purchase of 16 LCHs for the IAF and the Indian Army Air Corps (AAC) as part of a limited series production order in November 2016. The AAC has committed to buying 114 and the IAF 65 light helicopter gunships.

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Then Indian Defense Minister Arun Jaitley officially kicked-off full-scale production of the LCH at a HAL production facility in Bengaluru on August 26. Initial operating capability of the LCH expected by 2018. Four LCH prototypes are currently undergoing flight testing.

The first flight test of a LCH was conducted in May 2010.


“LCH has the distinction of being the first attack helicopter to land in Forward Bases at Siachen, 5400 mts [meters] above sea level,” the December 22 statement by HAL notes.

“The LCH, a derivative of the HAL Dhruv helicopter, has been primarily designed for high-altitude warfare – HAL and French engine-maker, Turbomeca jointly designed a special engine optimized for extreme altitudes – and has an operational ceiling limit of 6,000–6,500 meters (19,700–21,300 feet),” I explained previously.

As I reported in September:

The LCHs armament includes a 20 millimeter French Giat-Nexter turret gun, four Belgium-made 70 mm anti-tank guided missiles (or, once operational, the Indian Helina anti-tank guided missile, and MBDA Mistral-2 air-to-air missiles. As of now, the Indian military lacks an anti-tank guided missile to arm the LCH with.

The helicopter’s advanced electronic warfare suite is supplied by SAAB South Africa, whereas the LCHs modern sensor suite has been developed in cooperation with the Israeli’ defense industry. The gunship also features a data-link for network-centric operations.

The LCH participated in the IAF’s `Iron Fist 2016′ exercise in March 2016 test firing its weapons systems including missiles.

The 5.5-ton helicopter gunship, “is a multipurpose weapons platform and can be used against enemy tanks, armored personnel carriers, slow-moving aircraft, surface warships and even submarines. The LCH can also be deployed in search and rescue missions and battlefield surveillance.”

The LCH features a narrow two-crew armored cockpit. Per-unit cost is estimated at $18-20 million. In comparison, one of the latest variant of Boeing’s Apache gunships, the AH-64E comes in at around $35 million.

https://thediplomat.com/2017/12/indian-air-force-army-to-buy-15-light-combat-helicopter/
 

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The Chief of the Air Staff, Air Chief Marshal B.S. Dhanoa in a MiG-21 trainer aircraft before flying at Air Force Station Nal, Rajasthan on December 29, 2017.
 

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http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/karnataka/ats-passing-out-parade/article22326684.ece
Belagavi , December 29, 2017 17:49 IST
Updated: December 29, 2017 17:53 IST


Air Commodore J. Rajendra, Command Personnel Staff Officer (CPSO), Headquarter Training Command, IAF, hands out trophies to meritorious trainees in ATS Belagavi on Friday. Photo by special arrangement


As many as 185 trainees of various trades of Non-Technical Training Institute and Air Force School of Physical Fitness passed out of the Airmen Training School, Belagavi on Friday.

Air Commodore J. Rajendra, Command Personnel Staff Officer (CPSO) Headquarter Training Command, reviewed the parade.

He asked the graduates to keep abreast with advancing technologies, as he felt learning was a continuous process. He emphasised upon the trainees to ensure optimal contribution by each one of them towards the overall battle preparedness of the IAF. He reiterated that one must make optimum use of opportunities available in the Air Force and strive to achieve high standards for themselves in all spheres while putting their best foot forward.

The highlight of the Passing Out Parade was the impressive drill movements of the trainees.

The chief guest handed out trophies to meritorious trainees. Rakesh Singh Negi was adjudged as ‘Best in General Service Training’.

Suraj Kumar Medda, education instructor, was adjudged as the Best All Rounder.

Air Commodore Arun Bhaskar Gupta, Air Officer Commanding, ATS, was present.
 

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Tejas Aircraft.


When are the Brahmos missiles will be fitted on Tejas ? Will that Brahmos missile will be compact and a new advance version of Brahmos missile will be smaller in size with new missile motor and new fuel ?
 

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