Indian advancements in Supercomputing

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  1. p2prada

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    The $2Billion is to set up a facility as well and induct workforce to manage the entire system. It's not only the budget for development of the computer alone.
     
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    I agree completely ................
     
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    IBM India’s top supercomputer manufacturer

    IBM India’s top supercomputer manufacturer

    Bangalore: Technology company IBM leads the list of India’s supercomputers, having built six of the country's 16 fastest high-performance computing installations, according to a new compilation by the Indian Institute of Science (IISc). It was followed by Hewlett-Packard with five systems and SGI with two systems.

    The fastest supercomputer, however, is a Wipro system installed at the Indian Space Research Organisation's Vikram Sarabhai Space Centre at Thiruvananthapuram, followed by the Eka, a HP system installed at the Pune-based Computational Research Laboratories.

    Supercomputers are built to crunch massive amounts of data for research in areas such as bio-informatics, climate modelling and aerospace among others.

    The Indian Space Research Organisation machine, named SAGA-220 and commissioned last month, can carry out 220 trillion floating point operations per second (TFlops) as against the Eka which has a peak performance of 172.60 TFlops. The Computational Research Laboratories is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Tata Sons and is involved in high-performance computing services and solutions.

    There is a significant jump in the number of supercomputers being added in the country though India still lags behind in this area, said Sathish S.Vadhiyar, associate professor at IISc's Supercomputer Education and Research Centre (SERC), which has been compiling the list twice a year since 2008. While only a couple of Indian systems are in the list of top 500 supercomputers globally, countries such as the US account for between 100-150 systems while China boasts of more than 50, he added.

    The top 16 Indian systems had been ranked based on a minimum performance criteria of 3.11 Tflops, a bar that has been raised with every compilation from SERC. The combined supercomputer performance featured on the SERC list is 308 TFlops, with Bangalore leading the list with four supercomputers followed by Chennai with three....
     
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    india must go for a megaton test.only a bjp-led government has the guts to do so.hope they win and come to power in 2014 and go for another test in near future.
     
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    BS bravado. It was the BJP led govt which declared a moratorium on testing.

    It was the ingenuity of our scientists to hide the test preparations after learning from the earlier mistake when India got caught by the US preparing to test under Narismha Rao government.

    Maybe ask what purpose a megaton bomb is going to achieve?
     
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    Agreed.

    Lets not politicize it shall we...bjp is not some mighty warrior. they just like to shout the loudest and are then caught with there paints down (like the congress) when the shit hits the fan.
     
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    I see what you did there, ROFTL
     
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    India needs Petaflop supercomputer series: Vijay Bhatkar

    India needs Petaflop supercomputer series: Vijay Bhatkar


    India needs Petaflop series of supercomputer, but the Centre is not willing to give any financial assistance for the project, a top IT scientist said here on Saturday.

    "Petaflop is a measure of a computer's processing speed and can be expressed as thousand trillion floating point operations per second," architect of PARAM series of supercomputers Vijay Bhatkar told PTI.

    India needs Petaflop supercomputer series: Vijay Bhatkar
    America, Japan, China and India are the only countries in the world that have been carrying out research on Petaflop Computer Series, he said.

    "To make Petaflop we need Rs 1,000 crore and 50 MW separate electrical power station, but the Centre is not willing to give funds to the project," he said.
     
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    C-Dac Reaching for a Petaflop by 2012 | insideHPC.com

    C-Dac Reaching for a Petaflop by 2012


    Pune, India-based Centre for Development of Advanced Computing (C-Dac) is designing and developing some new technology for their upcoming PARAM supercomputer. The new machine will be ready by 2012 and is expected to break the Petaflop barrier.

    he total investment to design and develop a brand new high speed petaflop PARAM supercomputer will be over Rs 1,000 crore,” Rajan T Joseph, director general, C-Dac, told Financial Chronicle. The cost of its maintenance alone will be between Rs 20 and Rs 25 lakh a day, he added.

    We will compete with the Americans in this supercomputing technology and offer it at a cheaper rate for the world market,” scientist SP Dixit, director of C-Dac and principal investigator of high performance computing centre, leading the 150 team of scientists, said.

    According to Hemant Darbari, executive director of C-Dac, the biggest challenge is overcoming the huge power consumption. The current system at C-Dac, Yuva, requires roughly 1MW of power for 54Tflops.

    The PARAM supercomputing with petaflop speed needs a separate power station as it requires 20 mw to run it,” [Darbari] said.
     
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    I do not know whether they would do that but I think we should conduct the final series of tests some time around 2015.
    I agree we should go for megaton weapons because they make the kind of power statement that smaller nukes don't.

    Whether they go for Megaton tests or not, since the future thermonuclear tests will be big they will have to be conducted at sea. I do not know how they are going to do that secretly.
     
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    Rs.1000 cr, if they can sell few of those to friendly foreign countries, then it is worth making it.......I heard one of P5 purchased Param computer.
     
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    we do not have sufficient thermonuclear data to simulate.yes india can ask for some data from russia but they may or may not give it.wikipaedia articles on agni3 suggest that agni warhead technology can now enable it to carry megaton warhead.are we still going to use 200kt barc warhead.
     
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    If warheads have good CEP and/ or MIRV'd Megatonnage is not necessary.
     
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    India keen to join race to develop supercomputers - The Times of India


    India keen to join race to develop supercomputers

    NEW DELHI: India is keen to join the ambitious race to develop new generation of powerful supercomputers and is mulling allocating Rs 6,000 crore for the purpose in the 12th Plan.

    This is over and above the Rs 5,000 crore allocation proposed in the 12th Plan for research and development of supercomputers, Minister of State for Science and Technology Ashwani Kumar said here today.

    Addressing the CSIR Foundation Day function, he said there were proposals to double the government expenditure in research and development during the 12th Plan period.

    A senior official said he expected the Rs 5000 crore allocation for supercomputers to get the nod of the Planning Commission but was skeptical on funding for exa-scale computing.

    The fastest supercomputer with a computing speed of 2.7 petaflops is said to be in China. A petaflop is 1,000 trillion sustained floating-point operations per second.

    One exaflop is 1,000 times faster than a petaflop -- performing 1 quintillion, or 1 million trillion calculations per second.

    The exa-flop capabilities do not exist anywhere in the world and scientists globally hope to realise it within a decade.

    "We have challenged ourselves to make a five year plan which out competes all our earlier Five Year Plan efforts," Kumar said and urged scientists to go beyond formal R&D parameters and facilitate innovative solutions that lead to inclusive growth for the people.
     
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    if we aim for exaflop now may be we can get it in next 10-15 years.
     
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    MT warheads are too controversial. The fallout kills too many non-intended targets to the 300kt ranged weapons that leaves less fallout in the wind. You also get better coverage when you put more smaller warheads and less chance of an interception.
     
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    SAGA-2203 is India’s fastest

    SAGA-2203 is India’s fastest


    SAGA-2203 is India’s fastest

    Indian Space Research Organization has built a new supercomputer with theoretical peak performance of 220 TeraFLOPS (220 Trillion Floating Point Operations per second). “SAGA-2203 (Supercomputer for Aerospace with GPU Architecture-220 TeraFLOPS) is housed at the supercomputing facility named as Satish Dhawan Supercomputing Facility located at Vikram Sarabhai Space Centre (VSSC), Thiruvananthapuram. The new Graphic Processing Unit (GPU) based supercomputer “SAGA-2203 is being used by space scientists for solving complex aerospace problems. Scalable to many PetaFLOPS (1000 TeraFLOPS), the “SAGA-2203 Supercomputer is fully designed and built by VSSC using commercially available hardware, open source software components and in house developments. The system uses 400 NVIDIA Tesla 2070 GPUs and 400 Intel Quad Core Xeon CPUs supplied by WIPRO with a high speed interconnect. With each GPU and CPU providing a performance of 500 GigaFLOPS and 50 GigaFLOPS respectively, the theoretical peak performance of the system amounts to 220 TeraFLOPS. The present GPU system offers significant advantage over the conventional CPU based system in terms of cost, power and space requirements. The total cost of this Supercomputer is about Rs. 14 crores. The system is environmentally green and consumes a power of only 150 kW.

    About Supercomputer:Some scientific problems and processes are so complex that we need supercomputing power to tackle them. A supercomputer is a computer that is among the largest, fastest or most powerful of the computers available. The fastest supercomputers operate on the order of more than 200 teraflops. Supercomputers are used to tackle problems that are very complex or problems that would be messy to deal with in the real physical world because they are dangerous. Here are few usages of supercomputers: (a) Climate researchers model Earth’s current and predicted future climate using supercomputers. (b) Astronomers and space scientists use supercomputers to study the Sun and space weather. (c) Scientists use supercomputers to simulate how a tsunami would impact a coastline or a given city. (d) Supercomputers are used to simulate supernova explosions in space. (e) Supercomputers are used to test the aerodynamics of the latest military planes. (f) Supercomputers are being used to model how proteins fold and how that folding might affect people that have Alzheimer’s disease, Cystic Fibrosis and many kinds of cancer. (g) Supercomputers are used to model nuclear explosions, limiting the need for real nuclear testing.
     
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