India’s Uranium Boss Says Deformed Children ’Imported’

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  1. W.G.Ewald

    W.G.Ewald Defence Professionals/ DFI member of 2 Defence Professionals

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    India’s Uranium Boss Says Deformed Children May Be ’Imported’ - Bloomberg

    Where is the Ministry of Health & Family Welfare when Uranium Corp security personnel are "monitoring outsiders"? This fellow Acharya should be shot.
     
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    Refer to the thread on ngos. Thats why outsiders are monitored. I would not be surprised if what he said was true.
     
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    if children are affected then how come employees are not effected .
     
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    I wont be surprised if what he's saying is actually true! We have well wishers from around the world who seem to be 'too concerned' about our people near mines and nuclear sites.
     
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    The employees may not have grown up in that area, and fetuses, infants and children are more susceptible to radiation. The answer would lie in a good epidemiological study, which is why I ask about the Ministry of Health & Family Welfare.
     
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    The alleged source of the problem is improper waste disposal, particularly contamination of water. Water contaminants affect people downstream, not in the plant itself. Waste byproducts of numerous industrial processes result in active anti metabolites which when released into the water supply have devastating effects upon those in the immediate area. These particles have a set half life so people who live further away from the source tend to be safer because by the time they ingest the particles they are no longer active. The populace in the immediate area however has no such luck.

    If these plants are in fact not processing the waste material properly then the likelihood of deformities in children is far greater than the claim that they're being "imported".
     
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    In fact its all about whom you want to believe. There is a tendency to treat reports from India as something from a turd world nation where 600 million people defecate in the open and nuclear plant operators do not give a flying fuk for safety.

    if that is what someone wants to believe, nothing on earth will make him change his view. If a news portal wishes to promote that view - no amount of squirming or protesting is going to change that.

    What India will do is to tell all these detractors to stuff their heads where the sun don't shine and carry on doing what needs to be done. That is the only thing that works anywhere in the world.
     
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    How are you sure this is what India will do?
     
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    Uranium ore in India is very poor in fissionable isotopes. Then, some background radiation, well within safety limits, has always been there.
     
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    the same happened in kundakulam nuclear power plant agitation, now it has been established that there propaganda was baseless and the plant is now successfully fulfilling electricity needs of millions of people.
    the agitation was artificially manufactured by western ngo's and churches
     
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    True. But in science. One study means nothing. A review of several studies starts meaning something. And at least some of those studies have to be conducted by Indians and peer reviewed in India.
     
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    Not necessarily the case.

    That is irrelevant to the scientific validity of a study, and you know that.

    The problem some of the posters here have is that in an effort to demonstrate support for nuclear power and research in India, they seem to discount actual suffering borne out by the neighbors of those nuclear facilities. Why? Part of being a rational citizen is accepting the real costs along with the benefits, without adopting rose-colored glasses out of excess patriotism.

    Support nuclear power, by all means. But do not do it by burying your heads in the sand and saying "la la la costs don't exist la la la". Instead, accept the costs, say you'll do it anyways, and compensate if you have to or coerce the victims if you must, but be rational.
     
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    Uranium Boss may be right.

    This is how the West creates an anti Indian report:

    Start a NGO and ask them research what the West wish to hear and these NGOs will create it whether true or untrue. These reports are published without ascertaining any basis or not. Some very over enthusiastic NGOs would ferry people to and fro to prove their point.

    Unless a strong warning and some western reporters face expulsion exactly the way China did in 1989 to 1995, these type of reports would keep coming.
     
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    Thanks for the lecture - but my opinion stands. It is your right to thrash about and moralize, but I believe that there are plenty of people from outside India interested in raising objections to anything nuclear in India. The right way to deal with them is to simply show them the finger and tell them to stuff it. they will keep howling pompously the way you have done.
     
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    Poor India, always the victim of those overpowering NGOs.
     
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    Lateral Thinking Question, .......if that is the case in the particular instance(s) in India

    then in a neighboring country which is FRANTIC to produce as much fissionable-radiative material as they can,
    in as short a time-frame possible - with as little safe-guards as possible
    ( as they are short of CASH )
    ferrying around their material in cars and vans along civilian roads,
    to avoid detection - ( does that really fool anyone, other than themselves ? )

    what is likely to be the "fallout " in that case - in Pakistan ?
     
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    And, as a corollary to that reputation that NGOs have acquired, it will be poor NGOs. Let alone NGO's there is almost no nuclear armed nation on earth that has not displayed total sophistry when it comes to nuclear issues. The only way to behave is to say "fu(X you"to everyone else when it comes to one's own interests in blowing up the planet but to put on a halo and shake one head pretentiously when someone else does that.

    Way to go.
     
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