Discussion in 'Foreign Relations' started by Param, Nov 12, 2011.
India wanted LTTE 'put in its place': Norway report - The Times of India
Absolutely right policy. There is no place for the frankinstein called terror organization. Who should know it better than India that has suffered from Pak terror.
The right policy would have been to engage the SLs and use our soft power as well as a mix of aid, loans etc to influence the SLs. The benefit of that would have been the Chinese having no role in SL. Indian handling rather botched handling of SL with flip flops screwed us.
Look dude mind you Freakin Toungue.
Jehadi elements cannot thrive and go on without local support. if you do not agree be civilised enough instead of using words like idiot. Your bias is obvious to me. And don't think others in this forum do not know.
Nobody asked you to support a terrorist organisation. We just needed to mind our own business in SL issue instead of supporting one side.
People like you with attitudes like yours are the ones who turn moderates into extremists.
Yeah and VHP or Bajrang Dal will come back and there is nothing you can do about it.
Nobody give squat if VHP or BD will come back to riot on the streets.
100s of VHP and Bajrag Dal goons trying to shut shops in Ghumar mandi Ludhiana were bashed and make to run like cowards by 2 SC guys alone. So are you talking about those 'lathmaar' pussies? VHP and BD or Ram Sena big mouthed can only bully girls and street laila Majnus. They only attack weak and vulnerable, have no spine to fight powerful but are only earning humiliation, bad international PR for rest of the Hindu community.
Geo strategic Assets turn into unbearable liabilities when politcal ineptitude imperiled asset management.Rajeev Gandhi's govt went all out to liquidate LTTE,a putative peacekeeping force were forced to become premadasa's hired goons against Tamil civilian, all this in return for the Sinhalese to sign on to a devolution plan,which even a green horn in the south block knew the Sinhalese where not going to honour nor implement.Rajeev Gandhi wanted to dismantle the last the defense the Lankan Tamils had against Sinhala chauvinist,without even semblance of a honourable peace settlement.It would have been the height of optimism to have expected the LTTE to just take it on the chin.
For the Sinhalese nationalist India represents their greatest threat because they have known from the days of their Independence that North east of their island was part of the historic Tamil homeland and as such India had every right to stake its claim on it.Nehru's bonanza to the Sinhalese in not pressing the Indian case for North east,plus transferring the island of Kacchateevu only helped the embolden the Sinhalese Chauvinism.its just an naive notion if we believe that the Sinhalese would have been all warm and welcoming towards India if not for the Tamil issue.These are the same folks who had requested the British the to liberate the Buddhist sites in India from the Hindu hegemony.
Its clear that the Sinhalese have outwitted the nation that produced Kautilya in the art of war and diplomacy,full marks to them.This was to be expected when the nations foreign policy was managed by wimps at the command of a widow out for a vengeance, even at the cost of India's supreme national interest.New Delhi should grow some politcal spine and see where our interest lies,or do they want 60 million Tamils to walk across the palk strait and restore India's national stake.
Lol, look who showed his extremist streak here.
Mixing two unrelated issues just to flame. Heading for trouble on this forum.
The issue is although LTTE is/was a terrorist/freedom fighting organisation, there were a lot of innocent Tamil's killed. Tamil historical facts were also burned. One needs to check the situation of Tamils after the revolution was killed.
Will they live as equals in Lanka ?
Also in a previous closed thread Armand had posted that fisher men be killed.
As per the ground report most fisher men do not stray into Srilankan waters. Also is it humane enough to kill them, for trespassing ? Now you would have a brief idea how Tamils are treated there!
Whatever happened to the judiciary system, Human rights? Even PoW have a convention, why shouldn't POOR, UNEDUCATED FISHERMEN have one ? Why should they be killed ?
Yuo have summed it up beautifully. Hats off!
Tamils were not treated as equals by the Sinhalese even when Mr Indira Gandhi was breathing down their neck,now that India has but abandoned them to the carrion birds,expecting equal treatment for Tamils will be like waiting for mid summer snow fall in jaffna.
The fishermen are the poor guys suffering because of the politics played. Sinhalese hate the SL Tamils because of the history there and Indian Tamil fishermen pay the penalty for the support Tamil politicians here gave the SL Tamils.
Sir, politicians can never be trusted. That said, is there anything wrong in supporting the innocent?
History would have pointed that Northern part of that island was a Tamil settlement.
LTTE is now gone, it is up to us (GoI) to ensure that Tamils there are treated equally. After all we are a Gandhian nation aren't we ?
yusuf bhai...even if politicians supported SL tamils[ which was obvious- even IG supported tamil cause] that is no reason to kill are fishermen...hell we dont like BDs coming into r country n started shooting them...BD PM took up the matter with MMS and BSF was given orders not to shoot...just a little increase in patrolling by CG and once in a while taking on SLN will at least send a message that India cares about her children...and if they continue then we would better loose an ally than r countrymen...
Are we? It's all fancy words. As SATA said the land of Kautilya was outfoxed. It's not about being Gandhian.
Neil I said as much in the other thread.
AFAIK, India is one.
Again for certain international posters we are painting a picture as though the Fisherfolk are terrorist. How lame? They are poor, uneducated fishermen. They do not have a GPS to guide them, a proper organisation to tell them how long Indian territorial waters are? Heck, they don't even have a coast guard to support them.
We should tell them what good Tamil Nadu has done to Srilanka as a whole. There are MANY SRILANKANS STUDYING IN TAMIL NADU. Many, they include Tamils and non-Tamils as well. Why not talk about such things instead ?
ya yusuf bhai...saw that thread...didnt meant to offend u or anything...m sorry if i did...u r right when u say that SLN kills r citizen because of r previous support to tigers and also that tigers used to take the same route to supply arms n stuffs...but didnt agree to some points so pointed out...
ltte was doomed to die after rajiv assassination, these revelation will only make lankan-Indian relations a bit warmer. but ltte and Indian policy makers, after indira gandhi just f*cked up the right thing to happen.
There was this another thread which wondered what you would do if you were the Indian PM,well if i was the indian PM and if it was reported to me that SL navy had shot at indian fisherman,i would pick up the phone,call Rajapaksa and tel him that if his navy took pot shots against Indian fisherman again,that would be the last time SL navy would be taking pot shots at anything save the under water eels....but that's just me.
Just because a group supported them, would that warrant a death on innocent people ?
We ourselves as a nation had heck of a lot of separatist movements, how did we treat them ?
Sardars fought for a proxy war did we kill all sardars, or try to kill sardars in other nations ?
Now our current PM is a sardar.
Why is it that hard to understand that poor people are getting killed and unnecessarily stupid points are brought in argue in support of killing innocent people ?
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