India verifying if US sold 'faulty' defense equipment

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    India verifying if US sold 'faulty' defense equipment - NY Daily News

    Indian governemnt is verifying if "faulty spare parts made in China" were used in defense equipment being sold by the US to it. Some media reports had pointed to the alleged lapses.
    Defense Minister A.K. Antony told the Rajya Sabha in a written reply to questions from Congress member Motilal Vora that the government has signed contracts with the US for purchasing various defense equipment in the last five years.
    "There have been media reports in this regard, which are being verified," Antony said in response to Vora's question that sought to know if the government was aware a large number of faulty spare parts made in China had been used in the defense equipment being sold by the US to India.
    Vora also wanted to know if it was a fact that a report of a committee of the US Senate had also pointed to use of more than a million Chinese-made equipment in these arms.
    Antony noted that India had bought a landing pontoon dock and named it INS Jalashwa, UH3H helicopters for the same warship, Harpoon anti-submarine missiles, long-range acoustic devices, modern hull penetrating periscopes, side scan sonar, C-130J transport aircraft, sensor fused weapons, C-17 Globemaster-III aircraft, P-8I long range maritime reconnaissance aircraft and quick reaction team boats from the US.
    Media reports suggested that the US Senate committee report stated that counterfeit electronic parts from China were "flooding" into critical US military systems, including special operations helicopters and surveillance planes, and were putting the US troops at risk.
    The Senate Armed Services Committee carried out a year-long investigation and found more than a million suspected counterfeit parts had made their way into the US Department of Defense's supply chain and were bound for use by critical military systems.
    In addition to the US Navy helicopters and surveillance planes, the parts were slated to be put into the US Air Force's latest cargo aircraft too, the report said.


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    Re: India verifying if US sold 'faulty' defense equipment Read more: http://india.ny

    may or may not have been deliberate

    but all goes to point towards DIVERSIFYING out sources - not just run to papa - russia

    there are load of other countries more than willing to supply india with parts and modules

    we should have better Assembly capacity - to put those modules together

    not blaming usa at all - just that we should become more independent in our defence manufacturing
     
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    Re: India verifying if US sold 'faulty' defense equipment Read more: http://india.ny

    Blaming Russia for faulty equipment, blaming China for faulty equipment, now blaming US for faulty equipment. C'mon, India needs to take a hard look at herself first.
     
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    it isnt blame....its verifying if any crap chinese stuffs isnt installed in US equipment since its reported in US congress about existence of such parts....what wrong in that...??

    seriously man....your trolling standards needs to improve....
     
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    These US Weapons Suspected of Counterfeit Parts - Yahoo! News

    These US Weapons Suspected of Counterfeit Parts



    Here are some of the known U.S. military weapons and technologies that may have been affected by counterfeit parts. Many cases are likely to exist beyond the examples named in the report; the U.S. Defense Logistics Agency identified 19 suspected counterfeit parts each used in more than 100 U.S. military systems.

    M1128 Stryker Mobile Gun System: An Army eight-wheeled armored fighting vehicle with a 105 mm tank cannon (built by General Dynamics).

    M982 Excalibur: A 155 mm artillery shell that uses GPS guidance to accurately hit targets close to friendly troops (Raytheon and BAE).

    RQ-4 Global Hawk: An unmanned aircraft flown by the Air Force and Navy to provide long-duration surveillance (Northrop Grumman). [New Game's Fictional Drone Inspires U.S. Military]

    B-52 Stratofortress: A long-range strategic bomber that has served the Air Force for over 50 years (Boeing).

    F-15 Eagle: An Air Force fighter jet designed to gain air superiority in dogfights (McDonnell Douglas/Boeing).

    A-10 Thunderbolt: An Air Force aircraft that uses heavy cannon, missiles and bombs to provide ground support for U.S. troops (Fairchild Republic).

    C-5 Galaxy: A heavy transport aircraft used by the Air Force to move huge cargo over very long distances (Lockheed Martin).

    C-17 Globemaster III: A heavy transport aircraft used by the Air Force to move cargo (McDonnell Douglas/Boeing).

    C-130 Hercules: A heavy transport aircraft used by the Air Force to air-drop troops and supplies into enemy territory, and to serve in many other roles (Lockheed Martin).

    C-130J Super Hercules: An upgraded version of the C-130 Hercules used by the Air Force (Lockheed Martin).

    C-27J Spartan: An Air Force transport aircraft used to move troops and cargo (Alenia Aeronautica).

    P-3 Orion: The Navy's current patrol aircraft, used for hunting down submarines (Lockheed Martin).

    P-8A Poseidon: A patrol aircraft being developed to hunt down submarines for the Navy (Boeing).

    A/MH-6M Little Bird: A light helicopter used by the Army for special operations missions (MD Helicopters).

    CH-46 Sea Knight: A transport helicopter used to move Marines and their supplies (Vertol Aircraft Corp. & Boeing).

    SH-60B Seahawk: A Navy helicopter stationed aboard cruisers, destroyers and frigates that can scout, provide fire support for Navy ships, hunt down submarines and attack surface ships (Sikorsky Aircraft).

    Navy Integrated Submarine Imaging System: A system that allows sailors to see both visual and digital images through submarine periscopes (Lockheed Martin).

    Terminal High Altitude Area Defense: A Missile Defense Agency system designed to defend against incoming ballistic missiles by intercepting them in their final phase of flight (Lockheed Martin, with many subcontractors).


    The Department of Defense lacks the resources to screen out Chinese counterfeit electronic parts, according to the report. Some military agencies, such as the Missile Defense Agency, have begun looking for solutions such as using irreproducible DNA markings to mark the authenticity of new parts.
    But such solutions won't help the U.S. military deal when it must buy electronic parts no longer made by the original manufacturer. Such scenarios force the military to turn to a chain of independent distributors who may or may not be trustworthy.
    The Senate committee hopes changes in the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act can tackle the problem without futuristic fixes. The NDAA specifically orders U.S. defense contractors to pay for the costs of counterfeit parts they supply in U.S. military systems — a way of encouraging such companies to make very sure that they're getting the real deal from their own suppliers.
     
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    Fake Chinese parts in US-made arms leave India at risk | Firstpost

    Fake Chinese parts in US-made arms leave India at risk


    New York: India, a big buyer of American arms, is understandably concerned by a key US senate committee report that finds vast numbers of counterfeit Chinese electronic parts are being used in US military equipment. Where does it leave India if suspect parts have crept into US-built aircrafts and missiles it has bought or put on its shopping list? The failure of a single electronic component could put an Indian airman or soldier at risk.

    Over a 14-month investigation, the Senate committee’s investigative staff amassed a database with 1,800 cases of counterfeiting involving about 1 million parts. It found that 70 percent of the suspect parts were traced to fly-by-night, unscrupulous Chinese companies who supplied electronics and other computer chips to large US defence manufacturers.

    India will acquire ten C-17 Globemaster-III aircrafts from Boeing for $4.1 billion, which will be delivered in 2013. Picture courtesy Boeing
    Defence Minister AK Antony told the Rajya Sabha in a written reply on Wednesday that India was verifying if “faulty spare parts made in China” were used in defence equipment being sold by the US to India.

    “There have been media reports in this regard, which are being verified,” Antony said this week.

    According to Bloomberg, the US Air Force had in January this year suspended a company called Hong Dark Electronic Trade Co., in Shenzhen (in southern China), from supplying parts to US contractors after it supplied about 84,000 fake components to a middleman, who then sold the suspect electronic parts to Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, L-3 Communications, among others.

    Bloomberg quoted Air Force Deputy General Counsel Steven Shaw’s memo saying; “Many of the 84,000 electronic parts from Hong Dark have been installed on aircraft such the C-17 transport and helicopters such as the AH-64 Apache and CH-46.”

    Given Shaw’s memo, India should double-check what it is paying for when it receives new aircraft. The first of the 10 Boeing C-17 Globemaster III aircraft ordered last year will be delivered to the Indian Air Force in June next year. India is forking over $4.1 billion (Rs 22,960 crore) to buy the US Air Force’s workhorse used extensively in Iraq and Afghanistan, making it the largest defence contract to have been signed by the two governments.

    Antony listed some of the other US military equipment India had bought in the last five years. Last year, India purchased an amphibious transport vessel, the USS Trenton (re-christened INS Jalashwa), for nearly $50 million with six-UH-3H helicopters to operate alongside, costing another $49 million.

    It also bought Harpoon anti-submarine missiles under a package worth $200 million, and long-range acoustic devices, modern hull penetrating periscopes, side scan sonar, C-130J transport aircraft, sensor-fused weapons, P-8I long range maritime reconnaissance aircraft and quick reaction team boats from the US.

    One reason India is beefing up its arsenal is China, which has been expanding its military and modernising its equipment at a tear. This has triggered a simultaneous build-up of advanced weaponry in the Asia-Pacific region on a scale and at a speed not seen since the Cold War arms race between America and the Soviet Union.

    India has purchased some $12.7 billion in arms, 80 percent of them from Russia, during 2007-2011, according to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI). India and the US want to eventually move beyond a seller-buyer relationship to substantial co-production and eventually, high-technology joint research and development of weapons.
     
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    After the Committee arrived at its findings, did it conclude who was responsible?
     
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    After the Committee arrived at its findings, did it conclude who was responsible?

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