India to increase troops along China border

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  1. LETHALFORCE

    LETHALFORCE Moderator Moderator

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    India to increase troops along China border | Reuters

    India to increase troops along China border
    Mon Jun 8, 2009 1:48pm IST

    By Biswajyoti Das

    GUWAHATI, India, June 8 (Reuters) - India will deploy thousands of additional troops and build airstrips along its remote northeastern border with China, in a sign of persisting wariness between the two countries despite growing business ties.

    India and China fought a brief war over their 3,500 km (2,200 mile) Himalayan border in 1962, and both sides claim the other is occupying big but largely uninhabited chunks of their territory.

    Although India and China have signed a treaty to maintain "peace and tranquility" along the disputed frontier and agreed to find a political solution to the row, talks have made little progress.

    Last year, the army said Chinese soldiers had crossed the border in Arunachal Pradesh state illegally and entered their territory, urging the government to deploy more troops.

    "Two army divisions comprising 25,000 to 30,000 soldiers each will be deployed along the border in Arunachal," said J.J. Singh, the governor of the remote state.

    "It (deployment) was part of the planned augmentation of our capabilities to defend the country ... The increase in force strength is to meet the future national security challenge," Singh said in Itanagar, capital of Arunachal Pradesh.

    Other than troops, India will add more firepower in the disputed zone with light 155mm guns, helicopters and unmanned aerial vehicles to strengthen its defences, officials said. They will also build airstrips close to the border.

    The state shares a disputed border with China more than 1,000 km (621 miles) long.

    Last month, India's air force chief said the country faces a greater threat from China than Pakistan because New Delhi knows little about Beijing's combat capabilities. (Editing by Bappa Majumdar and Jerry Norton)
     
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  3. badguy2000

    badguy2000 Respected Member Senior Member

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    easy...unless india were to break into Tibet, I don't think sino-india war would break out..
     
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    EnlightenedMonk Member of The Month JULY 2009 Senior Member

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    We think so too... but then again, you're the one who's in Tibet illegally....
     
  5. Yusuf

    Yusuf GUARDIAN Administrator

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    The problem is your definition of Tibet, it includes Indian territory, that when you have illegal possession of Tibet that you have more or less managed to make your own despite protests from the international community.
     
  6. Koji

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    Yusuf, which countries consider China to illegally possess Tibet?
     
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    Exactly my point earlier that you had managed to convince the rest of the world into recognizing Tibet as part of China, but then you don't want to recognize all the treaties it signed.
     
  8. Koji

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    I don't think China is obligated to fulfill any of those treaties signed by Tibet when it was independent. Same goes for all past colonial powers and their former colonies.
     
  9. Singh

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    [Uti possidetis] is a general principle, which is logically connected with the phenomenon of obtaining independence, wherever it occurs. Its obvious purpose is to prevent the independence and stability of new states being endangered by fratricidal struggles provoked by the changing of frontiers following the withdrawal of the administering power.
    Uti possidetis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Uti possidetis juris - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
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    Yup, Singh is right. But China is smart. It says that Tibet was never independent (which is BS), so it couldn't sign treaties with foreign powers. That turns it into a debate about the history of Tibet rather than arguing that Uti possidetis is invalid.
     
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    India needs to upgrades its border infrastructure to check intrusions esp in Sikkim and AP border.

    AP, is sparsely populated, is endowed with great resources and has tremendous hydropower potential which we must tap to ensure greater prosperity in NE region.

    Making ex-Coas Gen JJ Singh as the Governor for eg, was to me a signal of the Indian intent of asserting our sovereignty over our lands and now troop increase only confirms the intent.
     
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    Thanks! That was informative
     
  13. Yusuf

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    India has to concentrate on all types of infrastructure in AP, be it military or civilian. Civilian infrastructure especially hydro power to it's full potential will benefit the entire eastern region.
    For too long India has neglected that region while it's fighting insurgencies there. Economic development will make sure local population is firmly loyal to India.
     
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    SATISH DFI Technocrat Stars and Ambassadors

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    Atlast the Indian top brass are waking up and shedding their fear of the easy access of the enemy troops to the interiors of AP.
     
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    nitesh Mob Control Manager Stars and Ambassadors

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    This is old news getting peddled again this has been approved in 2007 I guess
     
  16. ZOOM

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    How will India going to add more firepower in disputed zone with light 155mm guns? since we yet to purchase even a single pieace of artillery in 155mm catagory from 1987. Even a Singapore based defence company which was shortlisted to purchase this light 155mm guns has been blacklisted which is among the seven defence firm which has seen a ban.

    It seems to me that our government is feeding Indian masses with some of the delicious stories to exhibite how we are well prepared to take on Dragon like China. :2guns:
     
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    India is going to station the MKIs there. UAVs are already in service and will not take any effort to locate them there nor will helos. By 155mm guns he probably meant the good old Bofors.
    The build of the the military in AP is for sure.

    Infact just today the following report has come in the TOI

    Chinese incursions into Indian territory rose sharply in 2008 - India - The Times of India
     
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    IAF moving Sukhoi base to northeast to thwart Chinese threat

    IAF moving Sukhoi base to northeast to thwart Chinese threat - India - The Times of India
     
  19. nitesh

    nitesh Mob Control Manager Stars and Ambassadors

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    Yes artillery is an issue but why we are not considering the induction of Pinaka and Smerch systems they are getting inducted in numbers.
     
  20. ZOOM

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    There is some difference between use of Artillery and MBRL, since MBRL could be very expensive to take on approching enemy coloumn, we can effectively tackle any threat through Artillery at lowest possible cost. MBRL is not like which can use in high numbers, rather we can pound enemy with thousands of shells from the volly of artillery. Hence we cannot do the similar barrange by sending thousands of rockets. At the same time, we are talking about light 155MM, which is much more effective on uneven terrain like AP.
     
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    I agree with you on certain points ZOOM but our MBRL are not unguided ones they are linked with UAV's so we can precisely direct our fire and use them effectively in counter artillery fire. So our boys don't get pounding.
     

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