India to have shield from missiles of 5,000 km range

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  1. AVERAGE INDIAN

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    India’s missile defence system is set to get a big boost as it is developing capability to intercept enemy missiles fired from a distance of up to 5,000km, in effect tackling any possible threat from countries such as China.

    The capability is being developed by DRDO as part of the Ballistic Missile Defence (BMD) shield, whose first phase is ready for deployment possibly in Delhi.

    Development of the first phase of the BMD programme has been completed, DRDO chief Avinash Chander told PTI in an interview.

    Under this, the BMD shield can tackle enemy missiles fired at from ranges up to 2,000 km.

    Taking this forward, the DRDO is enhancing the capability of BMD in phase-II to deal with threat from missiles of longer range of up to 5,000 km.

    “We are planning to soon carry out the first trial of the phase-II of the programme under which we will test our capability to destroy an incoming ballistic missile fired at us from 5,000 km range,” said Chander, who took over charge earlier this month.

    “Such a capability meets our immediate threat perception,” he said when asked if it would cover the threat of such missiles being fired from countries such as China.

    Under the phase II of the programme, all the components of such a missile shield including the radar and interceptor missiles would be new and will have extended ranges, the DRDO chief said.

    “The phase II missiles would be totally different from phase-I. In this programme, you need to travel more and intercept further away,” Chander said.

    While giving details of the programme, he said the phase-I of the shield is ready for deployment.

    Asked which city would be the first to be protected by the missile shield, he said, “The first choice for such a deployment would be the capital, New Delhi, as it is the heart of the country.”

    For deployment, the government will have to give necessary directions after which the components would be put in place.

    Chander said DRDO is planning to have a new missile testing range in the Andamans for carrying out the test-firing of systems such as the long-range BMD. This, however, will need various clearances, including from the Environment Ministry.

    “We are going to develop missiles with intercept range of 5,000 kms… We are looking for ranges in places such as the Andamans,” he said.

    The DRDO chief said the organisation was making a proposal for getting clearances from the Environment Ministry for setting up its base there.

    “We need to have entire country’s support for having the missile range. It is not just a DRDO effort for itself, it is a DRDO effort for the country,” he said when asked if he was sure about getting clearances from the Environment Ministry which did not approve the setting up of a radar in the Island territory to save a rare species of bird there.

    Chander said having a firing range in the Andamans was important as “we need to have separation distance between two missile units stations so that I can fire a missile from Balasore and intercept it (missile) in Andaman and Nicobar.”

    India to have shield from missiles of 5,000km range - The Times of India
     
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    Vishwarupa Senior Member Senior Member

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    How can we make out that the fired missile is directed towards India?
     
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    though radar and Doppler effects.



     
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    Chinmoy Senior Member Senior Member

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    I wish to see it in effect soon. Its just like shooting a bullet with another, but it would be interesting to see it happen :). Moreover we need a working defense system from SRM too say those with 2000 km range. Then it would be a stronger deterrent against Pak too.
     
  6. no smoking

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    When did India carry out the test of missile defence over 2000km?
     
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    Pay no attention to long range shield at the moment. How are we placed to shoot the Pakistani short range missiles like Nasr?
     
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    That's what I am saying. Although PAD and AAD tests had met some success, we can't say taht they are 100% full proof (but same goes with other countries with BMD). We need something which would better the present 60%-70% kill ratio of PAD and AAD combination. As far as cruise missiles are concerned, Aakash along with Barak8 system would be able to provide defense, but again we need something at long range for it, say at 300+ km.

    Waiting for the Barak8 test fire to succeed the same way it succeeded in Israel test phase.
     
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    Nasr is a faux. It can carry only conventional war heads and Pakistan just deters india that it has got the miniaturizing technology. Really, it does not. It has to go a long way.
     
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    India currently doesn't have any proper BMD system as India doesn't have BMEWS ( solid state phased array radars ) like PAVE PAWS . Having a LRTR simply wouldn't do . PDV is not yet ready so we have some work to do .

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    Where is Pakistan in terms of miniaturizing technology.?

    Is there a published authentic information on it or this a psychological warfare by Pakis and their friends in US Think Tanks.


     
  12. blueblood

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    For phase 1 LRTR in tandem with other C4ISTAR systems should work fine. Keep in mind that this system is Pakistan oriented and regardless of the range of their outdated missiles, their geographical width will be at play here.

    Hint: Strategic depth is yet to be achieved.
     
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    A little behind India. If we take 10 as the scale of minimized war head such as W88. India is 1 or 2 (depends how you reckon India's h-bomb), Pakistan is 0.
     
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    Pakis claim they have miniaturizing capabilities borrowed from China. there have been many articles about it. But none of them reliable and still there is 50% chance of a big lie. As far as deterrence is concerned 50% chance is equivalent to no chance.
     
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    We believe in peaceful rise in economic standards for our people. Why to miniaturize warheads at all. Beeg missiles to deliver big but inefficient warheads is good enough for our needs.
     
  16. warrior monk

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    Stop comparing with Americans and Russians , other than those two countries we have far better capabilities for miniaturizing warheads than Pakistan can , India's capability is probably equal to Europeans and Chinese. Our simulation of the plutonium pit pre and post blast and our research into ICF have surprised even the Americans , anyway stop deviating from the topic being discussed .
     
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    This discussion was for 5000 Km capable defense shield so LRTR simply wont cut it. With an Azimuth of 80 deg and and elevation of 0 to 80 degrees it is more than sufficient for Pakistan though the new generation Saheen will be a trouble. Longer range LRTR of upto 1600 kms is being developed and will be ready to test in a year or so .
    X band solid state phase array radars which only 2 countries have developed and deployed is the requirement in the near future. Air and satellite based surveillance, to include both infra-red and synthetic aperture radar will also be deployed for infra red blooms of the SLBMs which are tough to track with BMEWS .
    PDV will be the game changer as it will shoot down missiles above 110 kms , the Strap Down Inertial Navigation System, the phased array seeker and with a more powerful kinetic kill vehicle will be devastating to our enemies.
     
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    We already have a thread for this:

    Indian Ballistic Missile Defense System

    @mods please merge, so easier to keep track.
     
  19. no smoking

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    So far, I haven't found any report from American or other P5 country supporting your claim except India's own claims. Of course, Americans were caught by India blast off guard, but they were not surprised--everyone knows that India produce of a nuclear war head is just a matter of time since 1974. India's capability for miniaturizing warheads is certainly better than Pakistan, but equal to European and Chinese? Highly unlikely.
     
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    Where else do you think those Pakis will direct their missiles to fly? :)

    As far as China is concerned, there will be a fair amount of time to get to know in which direction they're headed. May become a little more difficult if more than two contiguous nations are involved. But it would be fairly clear during the decent phase of the missile soon after reaching its vertex.

    And then if there's a war between China and India, those missiles will certainly not be aimed elsewhere! :smile:
     
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    I don't want to derail this thread by going off topic we can open another thread for it but suffice to say that India has variable yield nuclear warheads especially the FBF and the staged fusion devices , it depends upon air burst, contact or proximity modes of deployment . The FBF device can go from 10kt to 65 kt by cross mixing or limiting the use of deuterium and tritium gas introduction and the staged device can go from 10 kt just primary by making sure it doesn't cross the Coulomb barrier to 200 kt with complete second stage consumption . I would not reply anymore as this will derail thread
     

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