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That depends on which part of china we are talking about! East coast? Yes! Inland? just started.China's infrastructure buildout is in full swing. India is just staring the build out.
LOL, relax , take in the good news...who cares what they do...Still difference between India and China production will be 8-10 times once India reaches 2nd Spot. But Still, India can do well in this sector due to huge scope and never ending demand for domestic consumption.
If massive infrastructure buildup kicks off in India, that is very likely to happen.India cannot come even close to China in Steel Production in the foreseeable future. China produces, exports,imports, consumes more steel than any other nation, iirc China's Steel Production was more than the next top 4 steel producers.
PS: Please confirm the figures.
Illegal steel rolling mills.Go to the kenjore district in Orissa and then there are individuals like meIndia cannot come even close to China in Steel Production in the foreseeable future. China produces, exports,imports, consumes more steel than any other nation, iirc China's Steel Production was more than the next top 4 steel producers.
PS: Please confirm the figures.
Yes, PRC is the top producer in terms of mining operations.India cannot come even close to China in Steel Production in the foreseeable future. China produces, exports,imports, consumes more steel than any other nation, iirc China's Steel Production was more than the next top 4 steel producers.
PS: Please confirm the figures.
It is true that PRC has an edge. We can cut our exports, to all countries. That will drive up iron ore prices and make it difficult for PRC to import that quarter of its consumption that it currently does.PRC indeed imports iron ore but that doesn't take away from the fact that they are the world's largest steel producers by far. And India has good deposits of iron ore and coal(low quality not good enough to convert to coke) but that doesn't imply that India will be able to become the largest steel producer.
One needs cheap coke, incentives, cheap electricity, labour, ports, railways, cheap iron ore, cheap transport, good demand etc. China is the world's largest producer of coke, it has cheap electricity, it has long term deals with iron ore miners, it has extensive ports and railways to transport, government incentives, cheap labour, excellent demand both domestic and foreign....
I am not sure I can agree with that. It depends where the ore is and where it has to be taken to. If the ore is in the Chhota Nagpur plateau, it will typically be taken to some port in WB or Orissa for export as say pellets. Why not export from a factory near these ports as profiles, trusses, fabrications etc., things that PRC, among others, needs? That would be, IMHO, more beneficial for India.PS: It is cheaper to transport iron ore from India to China than transport it within India.
Actually, it is over inflated. Consumption of steel in China is about 25% over sustainable levels. Not so far for India to catch.China's infrastructure buildout is in full swing. India is just staring the build out.
off-set: can be done through IT exports, something india is pushing for and china is resisting. they agreed but then have since backed out, the negotiations are ongoing but there is a dilly dally shilly shally, as was with the stapled visa episode on part of china.Am I missing something here? You guys are advocating to restrict exports to china while not having a base built yet to consume those lost exports?
And someone has to break the spine of this lobby!off-set: can be done through IT exports, something india is pushing for and china is resisting. they agreed but then have since backed out, the negotiations are ongoing but there is a dilly dally shilly shally, as was with the stapled visa episode on part of china.
consume those lost export: there is a huge investment going into the steel industry in india, though it is another thing that we are caught on land acquisition for quite sometime now. its a two prolonged appproach, manufacture enough for internal consumption, which would include high end steel and make enough for exports, its always better to export end product than raw material.
the lobby within india is pushing for higher exports of raw material because there is huge illegal mining in india, and very powerful people are involved in it.
i think courts are the answers and no one else because as was exposed in the justice santosh hedge's post, every political party has a hand in the illegal mining in some way so at least the political will wont be there and even when the courts have passed a judgement there have been many instances where the illegal mining still went on.And someone has to break the spine of this lobby!