India Tests Newly Developed Thermobaric Ammunition

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  1. Indx TechStyle

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    India Tests Newly Developed Thermobaric Ammunition
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    NAG Anti Tank Buster - and below right representational image of a Thermobaric Ammo
    India’s Defence Research and Development Organization (DRDO) has successfully conducted ‘mote firing’ of its newly developed ammunition from a tank targeting another tank.

    DRDO carried out two firings of the ammunition from indigenously developed main Battle tank Arjun Wednesday at a defense test facility off Odisha coast, Indian Express news daily reported.

    “High explosive ammunitions were fired from the indigenously developed main battle tank (MBT) Arjun against the decommissioned Russian T55 tank. The T55 tank was instrumented for the purpose and the ammunition successfully hit the tank,” the news daily quoted an unnamed defense official as saying.

    New ammunitions like thermobaric and high explosives (HE) were fired against the T55. The Russian tank has been replaced by the Arjun main battle in the Indian Army. As tanks like T55 are with other countries, the trials were aimed at ascertaining the effect of the new ammunitions on such tanks.

    “The test was conducted for that first time. Similar trials have also been planned on Thursday. Earlier, no instrumented tank was targeted by another tank during such trials though several tests of open firing from Arjun tank have been conducted in the Pokhran range of Rajasthan,” the official informed.

    Arjun is a third generation main battle tank (MBT) developed by DRDO. It features a 120 mm main rifled gun with indigenously developed armour-piercing fin-stabilised discarding-sabot ammunition, one PKT 7.62 mm coaxial machine gun, and an NSVT 12.7 mm machine gun.

    It is powered by a single MTU multi-fuel diesel engine rated at 1,400 hp, and can achieve a maximum speed of 67 km/h and a cross-country speed of 40 km/h.

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    I wonder whether it is a HEAT or KAPP round with which this Thermobaric ammo has been incorporated. As in itself a thermobaric round would be ineffective against a tank armour. Its true devastation would be when it would go off inside a tank. In that scenario a mere 2 kg projectile could blast off a tank to kingdom.
     
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    Well, for me, successful development of thermobaric ammo is a big deal. :p
    They successfully blasted that target, may be with high velocity small projectile or low velocity large projectile.
    I heard that thermobaric weapons are lethal against tanks.
    Plus our dear Red neighbor is selling such weapons to our stupid green neighbor.
    So, we need it. :D
     
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    as i searched on web thermobatic ammo is basically 100% feul while conventional ammo is 25% feul with 75% oxidisers meaning it uses/sucks oxygen from the surrounding atmosphere and genrates a very high temprature on impact but what i fail to understand is that it looks good for bunkers and militarry instalations or against caves like what soviets used it for in afghanistan how does it fairs against a tank ?can someone help me with it ?
     
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    @guru-dutt, assume terrorists are hiding inside a building and need to be eliminated.
    A thermobaric warhead strikes the exterior of the building and produces a fire blast that sucks out all the oxygen from the nearby surroundings.
    The lack of oxygen will then cause the terrorists inside the building to suffocate and die.
    Thus the terrorists have been killed without causing too much structural damage to building itself because there was no significant explosion when the warhead detonated just a fireball.

    Hope it helps :yo:
     
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    Well...... in this case, you could take into count the RPG's. They are thermobaric weapons in themselves. But they are effective against tank as they does penetrate the armour before exploding. So if you could penetrate the armour and then blast it, well there would not be any one standing there. So I wonder where they incorporated them, with HEAT or KAPP rounds. Because a thermobaric blast outside the tank would not be of such great impact.
     
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    I'd like to defer a bit here. A thermobaric weapon does suck in surrounding oxygen to feed itself, its true. But the scene which you are describing, it would require and enormous sized ammo to do that. Moreover the primary devastation because of such an ammo is due to its initial massive blast radius. So it is a weapon which would inflict a massive structural damage. Take for instance the MOAB or the FOAB. Those are thermobaric weapons. Even the Daisy Cutter of vietnam era was/is an thermobaric weapon. Suffocating out the oxygen is the last of its effect. The secondary effect would be to burn the victims from inside as they would be inhaling the inflamed fuel laced air for few seconds. In short, a thermobaric explosion would be bigger then a conventional one.

    Please dont try this at home, but you could try this simple explosion for yourself. Fire up a simple cracker in a confined space, and fire up a petrol filled small bottle of same size in that same space. First one is a conventional blast whereas the petrol bomb would be a thermobaric blast. :)
     
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    Thermobaric weapons cause death of tank crew as burning air enters the lungs of the tank crew killing them instantly or even bad case would be very slow death.

    What good is a tank without the crew.
     
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    Perhaps my use of the word "building" was a bit over the top.
    I was trying to reference a small enclosed structure and the use a small sized warhead with reliable accuracy.

    But then you too are absolutely correct in the scale of your analysis.

    :india::india:
     
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    HE and TB both create heat and pressure.TB create less pressure and heat than HE but for more duaration making it more deadly than HE.

    Rashtriya Rifles uses Russian RPO A in kashmir,i think there are TB munitions for Pinaka as well.

    This round will penetrate the armor of tanks and lightly arm vehicles,fortification and building. A very painful death for jihadis and Paki's in case of war,with their skin and nails melt before their eyes,Dojakh ki Aag (Hellfire)
     
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    Not captured T-59 but a decommissioned T-55 tank, The result will be much worst for a T-72M1 or derivatives which have sensors on turret sides and top ..

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    Against heavy concrete wall ..
     
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    They will never test against a Captured T 59 since it is a war trophy and earned by regiments.


    There are enough T 55 for testing purpose.
     
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