India Sends Stealth Warships to South China Sea

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    India Sends Stealth Warships to South China Sea
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    Only an exercise, not direct challenge but a good step indeed strategically.
    Armed forces will adapted in environment of SCS if India ever has to undergo a war in South China Sea willingly or unwillingly. :)
     
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    I'm not pleased. We have no sea dispute with China, we have a land dispute, let us stick to that. We should not act in any manner which benefits our other adversary, America. In fact, we should vehemently resist any attempts to form an anti-China coalition in SCS and use it as a bargaining chip. The situation should be such that unless India permits, US can't form any coalition in SCS. Give nuclear weapons to Vietnam and make them self sufficient. This will take away their need to be a part of any coalition. We should play spoilsoprt against American interests everywhere we can and squeeze handsome concessions out of them for any support we give them directly or indirectly. This "natural allies" business is bullshit. It means that our goals completely align and therefore India can be taken for granted since we have already declared prematurely that we will challenge China in SCS. Our narrative with the US must be "we don't wish to fight with China, so we have no inherent national interest in sending any ships to do your dirty work. We might send them, though, if you do *so and so things in return.."

    *so and so things : US should cancel sale of F16 to Pakistan, cancel military aid, allow India to be a part to the Afghanistan reconciliation dialogue, US should withdraw discriminatory visa policies, and settle the WTO case against Indian solar companies amicably. US media will not broadcast anything about the internal matters of India like Kashmir or any other Christian missionary funded 'intolerance' drama.

    If they do all these things, maybe, just maybe then we will send one ship to SCS. If not, they we give weapons to Vietnam and make them self-sufficient and even they will pull out of the US alliance.
     
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    ^ Navneet, I think its good initiative to counter string of pearls & Armed Chini presence in pakistan. Lets just say, we should mark our presence regularly without going over the top
     
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    There is a dispute in south China seas Vietnam had agreed to have India drill
    For oil in Vietnamese water and Chinese forced India out with threats of attack by navy



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    http://www.breitbart.com/national-s...n-oil-exploration-in-south-china-sea-illegal/


    China Declares Indian Oil Exploration in South China Sea ‘Illegal’

    China is consolidating its newfound authority over the international South China Sea by declaring it controls international waters off the coast of independent Vietnam.
    “India’s intention to once again explore for oil in the disputed waters of the South China Sea is an unwise move, as it will further complicate the maritime disputes and do a disservice to maintaining the positive momentum that has been achieved in China-India ties,” declared the state-run China Daily, as translated by the Times of India.


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    I know we have REAL interests in the SCS, I am only saying that we must not be overly revealing of our needs, or we will get exploited by the US if we appear overly willing to play along with the US. We must ACT as if it doesn't matter to us. If we appear desperate then we have a weaker hand on the negotiating table.
     
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    They are sending nuclear submarines to dock in Sri Lanka without any fear and we are scared to drill for oil when invited by an ally?


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    There is no way India can handle China alone in any manner . It will always have to be part of an alliance. You can thank leaders of the past for this who ensured the nation stayed weak so it could be easily plundered . In every
    Diplomatic or border issue with China India always lost going alone.

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    Just to have these kind of issues, they kept Indian military weak.

    So that they can justify the reason to join the socialist bandwagon.
     
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    @navnit

    You had mentioned Yusuf in his speech said India has absolutely no power projection in scs what can India do alone ? There is absolutely no leverage for India acting alone.


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    Sir, I am not talking about SCS. Take it in general.

    UPA kept Indian Army and IAF as it is and raised 100 ship Navy.

    This idiots, right not, they are dying to raise 200 Navy ships, but they are not happy to order F/A-18 as MRCA for IAF.

    When we asked about it, all of sudden they realize that they don't have enough money this year.

    Does it tell the story.........!
     
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    ^^
    On top of it, can some one guide us the payment terms for such this huge deal.

    If I am not wrong, there is no need to pay all the money upfront for all the F/A-18s.
     
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    It would be interesting to know what route the Indian naval ships would be following in the SCS en-route to Vietnam, South Korea and Japan. If it's within the so called nine-dash line that China claims as its territorial waters, then expect some fireworks and verbal diarrhea from the Chinese! :blah:

    Not much of an issue for commercial shipping. But the Chinese may create a furor as an Indian naval flotilla would be passing through.
     
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    Indian navy ships in South China Sea; China sees red[​IMG]
     
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    There is no point in having a navy of this size if it can't be a Blue Water one. Gone are the times when we were defensive and passive. Its time for others to know if they can play, we can play too, and harder.

    BTW there is good possibility of this deployment having sea floor mapping as primery objective. Since China is aggressively changing the landscape of south china sea by erecting artificial islands, regular mapping is necessary. Not to forget where INS Arihant will go on patrol on any deployment. Its SBLMs having a range of just 3500 kms gives a good vivid hint.
     
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    The timing is wrong.
    We are not yet ready to show our hand. We should finish the modernization of our forces first; not to mention the ongoing developments, upgrades, rearming and resupply etc.
     
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    The timing is never perfect, today is always better than tomorrow.
     
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    We will not be able to match China man-to-man, machine-to-machine in next several decades. Hence if we decide to wait then we may have to wait forever.

    India has been forced to extend her reach because if we don't reach SCS, then China will certainly trap us in our own neighbourhood. We have been pushed in a situation where Offence is the best Defence, we don't have an option.
     
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    Notice how cautious the deployment is? A missile boat, two frigates, and an oiler. No destroyers. Wish they at least sent a Delhi-class vessel to show PLAN 052C destroyers the finger.
     
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