India Selects Pilatus Basic Trainer!!!
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PC-7 contract.
India and Pilatus sign a contract for 75 PC-7 MkII turboprop aircraft, their integrated ground based training system, and a comprehensive logistics support package. The contract also contains an option clause for extending the contract to 105 planes. Indian reports place the initial contract value at INR 29 billion, but Pilatus rates it higher, at "in excess of 500 million" Swiss Francs. In dollar terms, it's worth over $525 million.
Delivery of the PC-7s and their associated training systems is scheduled to begin by the end of 2012, and the 30-plane option clause will expire in May 2015. As part of this contract, Pilatus will establish in-country depot level maintenance capabilities at Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), which will allow the IAF to fix the planes in country, instead of having to send them back to Switzerland. Pilatus has also entered into the required 30% value industrial offset contract, and says that it is "our intention to leverage the offset opportunity to establish manufacturing capability for the region in support of our business plans for India."
It's a very good week for Pilatus, who just won a 55 plane order from Saudi Arabia for 55 of its top of the line PC-21 trainers. India's contract is the largest single contract in the country's history, and will extend Pilatus' global fleet of turboprop trainers to more than 900 aircraft.
May day: India’s New Basic & Intermediate Flight Trainers
PC-7 contract.
India and Pilatus sign a contract for 75 PC-7 MkII turboprop aircraft, their integrated ground based training system, and a comprehensive logistics support package. The contract also contains an option clause for extending the contract to 105 planes. Indian reports place the initial contract value at INR 29 billion, but Pilatus rates it higher, at "in excess of 500 million" Swiss Francs. In dollar terms, it's worth over $525 million.
Delivery of the PC-7s and their associated training systems is scheduled to begin by the end of 2012, and the 30-plane option clause will expire in May 2015. As part of this contract, Pilatus will establish in-country depot level maintenance capabilities at Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), which will allow the IAF to fix the planes in country, instead of having to send them back to Switzerland. Pilatus has also entered into the required 30% value industrial offset contract, and says that it is "our intention to leverage the offset opportunity to establish manufacturing capability for the region in support of our business plans for India."
It's a very good week for Pilatus, who just won a 55 plane order from Saudi Arabia for 55 of its top of the line PC-21 trainers. India's contract is the largest single contract in the country's history, and will extend Pilatus' global fleet of turboprop trainers to more than 900 aircraft.
May day: India’s New Basic & Intermediate Flight Trainers
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there is also strange thing, there is pc-10 available but IAF is going for pc-7
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IAF to procure 75 trainer aircraft from Pilatus: Antony
Indian Air Force (IAF) has signed a contract with Swiss firm Pilatus for procurement of 75 Basic Trainer Aircraft (BTA) to train its rookie pilots and the delivery of these planes is scheduled between Feb 2013 to Aug 2012, the Lok Sabha was informed today.
"A contract for procurement of 75 Basic Trainer Aircraft was signed with Pilatus Aircraft Ltd, Switzerland on May 24... The delivery of these 75 aircraft is scheduled from February 2013 to August 2015," Defence Minister A K Antony told the House in a written reply.
In reply to a separate question on shortage of pilots in the IAF, he said that there is a shortfall of over 600 trained pilots in the force.
"The present strength of pilots as on Aug 1 is 3261 against the sanctioned strength of 3294," Antony said, adding that "the available strength of pilots in IAF is sufficient to meet the current requirement".
Replying to a question on development of "Friend or Foe System" for the forces, Antony said such a system has been designed, developed and has already been put into production.
"Centre for Airborne Systems (CABS), Bangalore-based DRDO lab has designed, developed and productionised Identification of Friend or Foe (IFF) Mark-XII system," he said.
In his reply to a question on achievements of DRDO, Antony said, "Many systems developed by DRDO for the Armed Forces during the last five years can also be used for civilian applications."
There are 50 laboratories functioning under Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) and at present, there is no proposal to set up new laboratory under DRDO, he said.
Indian Air Force (IAF) has signed a contract with Swiss firm Pilatus for procurement of 75 Basic Trainer Aircraft (BTA) to train its rookie pilots and the delivery of these planes is scheduled between Feb 2013 to Aug 2012, the Lok Sabha was informed today.
"A contract for procurement of 75 Basic Trainer Aircraft was signed with Pilatus Aircraft Ltd, Switzerland on May 24... The delivery of these 75 aircraft is scheduled from February 2013 to August 2015," Defence Minister A K Antony told the House in a written reply.
In reply to a separate question on shortage of pilots in the IAF, he said that there is a shortfall of over 600 trained pilots in the force.
"The present strength of pilots as on Aug 1 is 3261 against the sanctioned strength of 3294," Antony said, adding that "the available strength of pilots in IAF is sufficient to meet the current requirement".
Replying to a question on development of "Friend or Foe System" for the forces, Antony said such a system has been designed, developed and has already been put into production.
"Centre for Airborne Systems (CABS), Bangalore-based DRDO lab has designed, developed and productionised Identification of Friend or Foe (IFF) Mark-XII system," he said.
In his reply to a question on achievements of DRDO, Antony said, "Many systems developed by DRDO for the Armed Forces during the last five years can also be used for civilian applications."
There are 50 laboratories functioning under Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) and at present, there is no proposal to set up new laboratory under DRDO, he said.
What is going on with our own next-gen basic trainer?
Our tax rubees should support our own aerospacial industry!
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All grounded ... I pray you do not wish to hear that !
Country's defence preparedness too has some value ! That can not remain dependant on DRDO preparedness though every one in the country would like that !
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Main reason is work load of HAL..
Pilatus is purchased as per requirement, as homemade is not ready, But as soon as its ready much more will be ordered..
Any TOT invloved in this deal?
Main reason is work load of HAL..
Pilatus is purchased as per requirement, as homemade is not ready, But as soon as its ready much more will be ordered..
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30 percent of money will have to be invested in domestic route..
But they always claim Indians are not capable of absorbing ToT. Why can not DRDO prove them wrong...
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No, Its a Indian Deigned trainer..
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Indian Air Force proposes licence-building PC-7 turbo trainers
The Indian Air Force (IAF) intends to licence-build Pilatus PC-7 Mk II basic turbo-trainers to supplement the 75 aircraft acquired in 2012.
In a recent proposal to the Ministry of Defence (MoD), the IAF outlined plans to begin constructing 106 PC-7s at its Base Repair Depot (BRD) in Sulur, southern India, by early 2015. The proposal aims to make good its long-pending shortage of 181 basic trainer aircraft (BTA) and ensure trouble-free pilot training.
The IAF's proposition followed its categorical rejection of the delayed Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) programme to design and build 106 Hindustan Turbo Trainer 40 (HTT-40) aircraft to make up BTA numbers.
"The IAF cannot have two types of BTA, as it would be an extravagant and wasteful move, besides adding to logistical complications to operate them," then-Air Chief Marshal N A K Browne said in October 2013.
In a letter to the MoD in July 2013, he had expressed disappointment with HAL's record in designing, constructing, and maintaining aircraft. Browne, who retired in December 2013, also pointed to the state-owned manufacturer's history of delays and cost overruns in developing platforms, a record he said undermined the IAF's operational readiness.
The IAF acquired 75 Pilatus PC-7s after grounding its fleet of 180-200 HAL-designed Hindustan Piston Trainer 32 (HPT-32) basic trainers in July 2009 following a series of fatal accidents.
It now aims to acquire 10 of 106 PC-7s in 'fly-away' condition, 28 in semi-knocked-down kits, and the remaining 68 in completely-knocked-down configuration for assembly at the Sulur BRD.
"The BRDs are ramping up their capacity and will soon be capable of building complete aircraft," Browne said in 2013.
The IAF operates 14 BRDs across the country, one of which, at Ozar in western India, is involved in upgrading its MiG-29 fleet.
IAF officials said the delivery of PC-7s ordered in 2012 will be completed by early 2015. The first batch of 40 IAF pilots began six months of training on 14 PC-7s delivered to the Air Force Academy at Dindigul, southern India, in July 2013.
Following the MoD's approval, the IAF hopes to start producing the Swiss trainer indigenously. "It's about time that the IAF got into the driver's seat and started building its own aircraft, instead of always depending on HAL," Air Marshal V K Bhatia (rtd) told IHS Jane's .
"HAL's quality control is questionable, and over decades, has proved highly disappointing to the IAF, besides being costlier," he added.
But senior officials associated with the BTA project anticipate problems, as HAL is determined to continue with the HTT-40.
It argues that the HTT-40 will be a cheaper option than the imported PC-7s and developing the BTA indigenously will also reduce dependence on "erratic" foreign vendors.
The HTT-40 is still at an incipient stage of planning, and HAL officials at Aero India 2013 in Bangalore told IHS Jane's that it would take another three to four years to ready a prototype.
"Presently, the IAF is in no position to factor in any delays in HAL's BTA programme, as it faces a shortfall of around 470 pilots," a three-star officer said. "With the imminent induction of new fighters, it simply cannot afford to depend on HAL."
Indian Air Force proposes licence-building PC-7 turbo trainers - IHS Jane's 360
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Now i will say, No thanks ..
HTT-40 is better option as its ready and low cost and can be weaponized, Which is a good option for Army aviation in future days ..
HTT-40 is better option as its ready and low cost and can be weaponized, Which is a good option for Army aviation in future days ..
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India agrees new PC-7 bid
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India's defence ministry has agreed to give potential domestic bidders for local production of 106 Pilatus PC-7 Mk II basic trainers until 21 July to prepare their proposals. To be performed under New Delhi's "Buy & Make (Indian)" category, the deal is planned as a follow-on to a direct purchase of 75 of the type signed with the Swiss airframer. Deliveries have reached roughly the halfway stage, with the remainder due to be transferred by August 2015. New Delhi had previously extended the deadline for the receipt of proposals until 21 April, but local companies sought additional time in order to finalise production arrangements. Pilatus announced early last month that the Indian air force's growing fleet of PC-7 Mk IIs had accumulated a combined 12,000 flying hours since the type's introduction to use with the service in February 2013.
India agrees new PC-7 bid deadline - 6/3/2014 - Flight Global
deadline
India's defence ministry has agreed to give potential domestic bidders for local production of 106 Pilatus PC-7 Mk II basic trainers until 21 July to prepare their proposals. To be performed under New Delhi's "Buy & Make (Indian)" category, the deal is planned as a follow-on to a direct purchase of 75 of the type signed with the Swiss airframer. Deliveries have reached roughly the halfway stage, with the remainder due to be transferred by August 2015. New Delhi had previously extended the deadline for the receipt of proposals until 21 April, but local companies sought additional time in order to finalise production arrangements. Pilatus announced early last month that the Indian air force's growing fleet of PC-7 Mk IIs had accumulated a combined 12,000 flying hours since the type's introduction to use with the service in February 2013.
India agrees new PC-7 bid deadline - 6/3/2014 - Flight Global
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HAL TURNS UP HEAT ON HTT 40 PROGRAM
Dealt a new lease of life after months of friction with the Indian Air Force, HAL's HTT-40 program has got the necessary boost it needs to move quicker. A first flight of the basic trainer aircraft (BTA) is scheduled for June this year.
The MoD has indicated that the HTT-40 will be produced to meet a requirement of at least 68 aircraft (another 38 to be supplied by Pilatus). The MoD has additionally indicated that further orders will be extended to ensure the project, funded fully by HAL through internal accruals, to ensure the costs are fully amortized. The Department of Defence Production, the parent department to HAL, has also asked HAL to pre-plan export of the aircraft and open discussions with interested countries and clubs that may want to import the aircraft.
HAL will be studying how to market the aircraft, now just as a basic propeller trainer and leisure flying/aerobatics aircraft, but also for light strike and tactical reconnaissance on the lines of the Embraer Tucano. The HTT-40 was conspicuous by its absence at this year's Aero India after making its debut at the last show in 2013. Sources said that the first prototype at the HAL Airport was getting set for its first flight.
HAL turns up heat on HTT 40 Programme - SP’s Exculsive
Dealt a new lease of life after months of friction with the Indian Air Force, HAL's HTT-40 program has got the necessary boost it needs to move quicker. A first flight of the basic trainer aircraft (BTA) is scheduled for June this year.
The MoD has indicated that the HTT-40 will be produced to meet a requirement of at least 68 aircraft (another 38 to be supplied by Pilatus). The MoD has additionally indicated that further orders will be extended to ensure the project, funded fully by HAL through internal accruals, to ensure the costs are fully amortized. The Department of Defence Production, the parent department to HAL, has also asked HAL to pre-plan export of the aircraft and open discussions with interested countries and clubs that may want to import the aircraft.
HAL will be studying how to market the aircraft, now just as a basic propeller trainer and leisure flying/aerobatics aircraft, but also for light strike and tactical reconnaissance on the lines of the Embraer Tucano. The HTT-40 was conspicuous by its absence at this year's Aero India after making its debut at the last show in 2013. Sources said that the first prototype at the HAL Airport was getting set for its first flight.
HAL turns up heat on HTT 40 Programme - SP’s Exculsive
