India sees China as 'de facto competitor'

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  1. Galaxy

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    India sees China as 'de facto competitor'


    BEIJING - Recent bold moves regarding India's armed forces have political rather than military objectives, the People's Liberation Army (PLA) Daily said.

    India's repositioning of its national security strategy has led to the country "starting to treat China as a de facto competitor", it said in a commentary on Wednesday.
    "China has always adhered to the principle of 'peaceful rise'. But this has been misinterpreted by some countries as a 'rising threat'," it said.

    The response came a week after the Indian Ministry of Defense announced its biggest expansion package to date, a $13 billion military modernization plan.

    Within five years, the project is set to deploy 90,000 more soldiers and raise four new divisions along India's border with China, the largest such mobilization since the Sino-Indian border clashes of 1962.

    The Indian military is also in the final phase of choosing between two fighter jets in what is said to be the world's largest defense deal. For months, the Eurofighter Typhoon and the French Dassault Rafale aircraft have been competing for an Indian Air Force contract that is now worth more than $20 billion - almost double the original estimate.

    These moves followed the Indian government's decision in October to deploy Brahmos cruise missiles against China, the first time it has taken such a step with offensive tactical missiles.

    India is also pushing for its first joint air force and naval exercises with Japan, which Indian Defense Minister A K Antony revealed during his visit to Japan last week.

    On Monday, a senior former Indian diplomat said India, as a potential "positive balancer" in East Asia, wants to see a strong Japan in the context of China's rise.
    A strong Japan would play a positive role in maintaining the strategic balance in the region, former Indian ambassador to Japan Hemant Krishan Singh said in New Delhi at a discussion on the US-Japan alliance.

    During the same discussion, Sheila A. Smith, a senior fellow with the US-based Council on Foreign Relations, said Japan's "strategic discomfort" has been growing amid the rise of China in recent years.

    The discussion was held just weeks ahead of a proposed trilateral dialogue involving India, US and Japan that experts said was aimed at keeping China in check.

    The trilateral dialogue, to be held by the year's end, will discuss regional issues, the US State Department said last week.

    China has not commented on the matter.

    "The West's vigilance and confinement of China's rise are increasing. One of its means is to take advantage of China's conflicts and issues with its neighboring countries, and instigate and radicalize issues to exhaust China's energy, resources and strategic projection," said Fu Xiaoqiang, an expert on South Asian studies at the China Institutes of Contemporary International Relations.

    China should "take it easy" when outsiders feel uneasy about its growth and role in regional as well as global affairs, said Feng Yujun, head of Russian studies at the China Institutes of Contemporary International Relations.

    China should not only remain alert of actions taken by parties to contain its rise, but also actively adjust its strategy and focus on improving its relations with neighboring countries instead of the big powers, said Jin Yinan, head of the Strategic Research Institute at National Defense University.

    India and China are slated to become the world's largest trading partners by 2030, according to estimates by the Associated Chambers of Commerce and Industry of India.
    But analysts say India's increasingly assertive approaches, acting as a counterweight to the rise of China, are reshaping the Asian strategic landscape.

    "This is largely projected as a response to India's threat perceptions of China," wrote M K Bhadrakumar, a former career diplomat who served as India's ambassador to Turkey and Uzbekistan, in the Hong Kong-based Asia Times Online on Tuesday.

    Meanwhile, in Washington, US Deputy Secretary of State William Burns last week hailed India's "Look East" policy as becoming an "Act East" policy. "India's rise will reshape the international system," he said.

    Kim R. Holmes, vice-president of the Heritage Foundation and former US assistant secretary of state, said closer India-US ties are the natural result of a rising China.

    "I believe that growing strategic challenges presented by a rising China and continuing threats from terrorism in the region will inevitably drive the US and India to cooperate more closely on defense and other key sectors like space, maritime security and nuclear nonproliferation," he said.

    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2011-11/10/content_14068834.htm
     
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  3. Tshering22

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    What competitor? They're miles ahead in military modernization and economy while these UPA schmucks sip their chai pakoras and plot the next scam.
     
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    Chinese always use reference of Bhadrakumar for Indian POV. He is known communist supporter since ages. A complete !@#$%^ :p
     
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    Hmmm right now calling ourselves as competitors of China is actually insulting China. Well I am a realist. Though we may have progressed quite a bit in the last few years but we are way behind them. Let's not massage any egos here. We have a lot of catching up to do. Well yes the thought process is right that we have to catch up and compete with china.
     
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    India's military modernisation 'to contain China': PLA Daily

    The Hindu : News / International : India's military modernisation 'to contain China': PLA Daily

    India's decision to boost its military capabilities near the border with China was a political move aimed at “containing” China's rise, the official newspaper of China's People's Liberation Army (PLA) has said.

    The PLA Daily said that India's reported plan to carry out a $13-billion military modernisation, including deployment of 1,00,00 soldiers along the disputed border with China — the biggest expansion since the 1962 war — reflected “adjustments” to India's national security strategy that suggested New Delhi had begun to regard Beijing as a “de facto competitor”.

    “India has begun to consider China as an opponent,” the PLA Daily said.

    In recent months, tensions with countries across the South China Sea have prompted a flurry of commentaries in China's state-run media examining relations with neighbours.

    India's plans to boost its border security have been viewed by some Chinese analysts as a part of a larger United States-led move to contain China, and by others as a reflection of China's less than successful policies towards many of its neighbours.

    “The East China Sea and South China Sea issues have further continued to expose some countries' ‘envious, jealous and hateful' attitude toward China,” the commentary said. “The changes in the international and regional security landscape will negatively affect China and other countries involved, but they will benefit one country — India,” it added, noting that India had also “stepped into the South China Sea issue,” referring to recent cooperation with Vietnam.

    Chinese analysts have particularly blamed the West for recent tensions with neighbours. Fu Xiaoqiang, a scholar at the state-run China Institutes of Contemporary International Relations (CICIR), told the official China Daily newspaper that India's move to boost its military strength was sourced in a larger plan by the West to contain China.

    “The West's vigilance and confinement of China's rise are increasing,” he said. “One of its means is to take advantage of China's conflicts and issues with its neighbouring countries, and instigate and radicalise issues to exhaust China's energy, resources and strategic projection.”

    Jin Yinan, head of the Strategic Research Institute at National Defense University, told the same newspaper that China should “not only remain alert of actions taken by parties to contain its rise, but also actively adjust its strategy and focus on improving its relations with neighbouring countries instead of the big powers.”

    The PLA Daily said while relations between India and China had developed well with “harmonious” high-level exchanges, the border dispute and the “complex China-India-Pakistan triangle”, which was the “biggest problem” in the relationship, had created mistrust.

    The commentary said it saw India's military upgrade as the reflection of an anxious domestic elite who viewed China's faster development as a threat.

    “Deploying 100,000 more soldiers along the border areas with China is more of a political move than a military one,” the newspaper said.

    “After taking necessary precautions, China just needs to continue to develop friendly relations with neighbouring countries and adhere to its established security strategy, and then India's troop increase will be in vain.”
     
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    They got it wrong, it is not to contain china, but rather to defeat them and free tibet. This voice will get louder and louder as long as you support India's enemies and your own assertion to be the power broker of asian continent, not going to happen.
     
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    I did not hear GOI say things like that.LOL
     
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    Welcome back Mr. LOL. Here is my take. No, we do not want war with PRC neither do we want to defeat them. All we want is our territory occupied by PRC back and it would be a nice thing if Tibet also became free in the process.
     
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    I did not hear that from GOI either.

     
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    If I were heading the government, while I probably won't go to war with PRC, I would definitely change the official stance of GoI from 'Tibet, a part of PRC' to 'Tibet, a disputed territory.'
     
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    GoI doesnt usually say anything, They do.

    Let me list out. Thanks to Ravi Rhikye

     
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    Mr. LOL the GOI isn't obliged to loud speak or spoon feed what these moves mean. You certainly shouldn't expect a courtesy call from GOI saying "We're coming to whoop your a**" or saying "We're taking such and such counter steps to contain your bull horns at our border"
    Those who need to know and understand, live in this country and they do know and understand. We don't give a damn for the rest. Even better that the others still don't get the message :D

    Regards,
    Virendra
     
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    Virendra,

    The chicom idiot doesnt have the capacity to look at a Orbat, theater etc. All he can see is some fancy painted soviet junk passed off as uber awesome chicom machines
     
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    it is amazing how twists get given.

    when the chinese wrote that article, the heading was: "India sees China as 'de facto competitor'"

    the same article when it appears on hindu, the heading becomes: "India's military modernisation 'to contain China': PLA Daily"

    well, hindu does seem to have some problem with india, when it comes to china.
     
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    I have no problem accepting that it is done to contain China.
    China is spilling over too much, frequently out of their limits. At the physical border and in strategic moves.
    So yes, they're supposed to hold their horses in their own yard.
    They're the ones who started militarizing the entire Tibetan border, not us. To the contrary GOI's policy previously was to draw infrastructure like roads etc as far as possible from the border so as to avoid spooking Chinese with concerns. But its as ineffective as it is to change your seat in school to avoid being pestered by the class bully.

    Regards,
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    In India GOI work as per will of people of India, what is will of India has been spell out by Adux.
     
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    No, they good at planning.LOL

    Well, wills of top level indians may different from urs and take much more weight than urs.LOL
     
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    At least we have a honest indian.

    Well, basiclly, we think we ARE in our own yard which was and is accepted by GOI.


    No one regards infrastructure development alone as a militarize. The thing you didn't mention is that there are far more india forces deployed closing to this border than chinese forces.
     

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