India - Russia The True Friends

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I think its like this _ India & Russia are two boys who are friends. Then there's China. It pretends to be a girl & and trys to seduce Russia. The Russians believe that. But India knows that's a dude. If china succeeds, Russia would get the shock of its life. But anyway China manages to weacken the bond between India & Russia.
if china is a girl at all ,it a rich girl with money whose seduction power may be less....... but russians are gold diggers anyway........for the real attraction of russia for china is money it can shell out for defence items it buys from russia.
 

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WE as Indians never forget those who helped us in the time of our need and for this, we owe Russians a lot in terms of military support (just in case they decide to return back to Af-Pak). However, US has also emerged as a friend now being the only country that enabled us access to nuclear power. Russia oflate has not been the Soviet Union it was in the 80s and we're not the Socialist "Government is God" India any longer.

In fact, there's been a radical shift from Russia in terms of joint exercises. We have zero wargames with their army and air force and only a few with their navy. The Indo-US wargames are on the list because of the number of new forms of warfare US experiences in both Afghanistan and Iraq and perhaps in future in Pakistan. I think we should have more and more wargames with Russian tri-services as well.
 

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exactly india is still in "talks" to finalize the deal. We are still not sure if the russia is willing to make the FGFA out of the pak fa. We have not yet spent anything on it. If its not done in the next couple of years, india may well put its money into the F-35 which should be there by then rather than wait till 2018 for pak fa or FGFA to arrive.
The russians want our money but not let us be part of the development process. We will not learn anything anyway. Go along with the MCA on our own and look at the F-35 realistically.
 

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Given the amount of money we are investing for PAK FA it will not be so easy for us to Leave the project.
Actually most Russians say that we have nothing to do with Pakfa & the fgfa is actually a variant of Pakfa.The attitude they have is as if they are doing us a big favour,forget about partnership. The do not even like to acknowledge the fact that they approached as to partly fund the program.Only some of our stupid journalists were talking of the " the Indo-russian fighter jet" like us are talking.
 

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Why should india get into funding the pak fa which will then materialize into FGFA when we can get a ready made F-35 ?? I think india is now in a wait and watch approach to see what russia is up to. We may well see that russia will offer just the pak fa and india will have to decide if it wants that or nor. Russia won't spend any time and money on FGFA.
 

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Russia has been longtime and faithful ally of India, we should keep in mind when all other superpowers like US sanctioned India for nuclear program it was Russia that continued trading with us in different areas. India should do all it can to strengthen ties with Russia.
 

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Why should india get into funding the pak fa which will then materialize into FGFA when we can get a ready made F-35 ?? I think india is now in a wait and watch approach to see what russia is up to. We may well see that russia will offer just the pak fa and india will have to decide if it wants that or nor. Russia won't spend any time and money on FGFA.
Thats better for us as Russia will never ever give complete TOT for all components of FGFA . since we are not getting much for s much of money so its better to buy a readymade system and then utilize that money for Made in India Systems . AMCA project will give us better return for money in terms of technical experience .
 

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Russia has been longtime and faithful ally of India, we should keep in mind when all other superpowers like US sanctioned India for nuclear program it was Russia that continued trading with us in different areas. India should do all it can to strengthen ties with Russia.
Russia does business with Iran also despite the sanctions on iran. Russia is driven by its interests. Its all about securing your interests.
 

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