India readies to select mid-air refueler

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  1. LETHALFORCE

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    India readies to select mid-air refueler - The Economic Times

    NEW DELHI: India is readying to select the winner of the $2-billion tender for six mid-air refuelers for its air force, with both the contending planes from European consortium EADS Airbus and Russian Ilyushin clearing the flight trials.

    According to informed sources, the Indian defence ministry is now considering the bids to arrive at the lowest bidder in the tender issued in September 2010. India is looking for six refuelers.

    The tender had been reissued by the government after the Airbus' A330MRTT was selected by the Indian Air Force as the winner of an earlier tender in 2009.

    But the finance ministry objected to the "high cost" for the A330MRTT. So the tender was cancelled in January 2010.

    "After three trials in November, we have been informed that we are compliant with the specifications mentioned in the tender," Airbus Defence Capability Marketing vice president Ian Elliot told reporters here.

    Ilyushin too has been found complaint, the sources said.

    Asked about the finance ministry objections during the previous tendering process, Elliot said the concerns were relating to "capital investment cost."

    But now, the lowest bidder for the tender will be worked out on the basis of life cycle cost of operating the plane over several decades.

    During flight trials, Airbus had demonstrated midair refueling of Indian Air Force's Sukhoi-30 and Jaguar combat planes on its A330MRTT.

    It also similarly demonstrated refueling of Mirage-2000s while contesting the United Arab Emirates tender. India has a fleet of nearly 50 Mirage-2000s. India also has a six-aircraft fleet of IL-78s.
     
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  3. noob101

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    Russians shouldn't get this tender even if it is the lowest bidder so they get their act together and actually deliver existing orders on time and also maintain a reliable stream for spares and maintenance
     
  4. Kunal Biswas

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    IL-76/78 major problems are spare, they have cheap Unit cost..

    But in the long Run they Burn your Pockets empty on Maintenance and Flying costs..



    I hope US wins or Euros..
     
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    Russians slipped refuellers to pakistan via ukraine.
     
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    these bastard sarkari babus think lowest bidding always mean its better
     
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    but these sarkari babus dont agree with you.they want to save money for their wifes ***** and ***
     
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    Depends whether they will be considering Ilyushin-76 or Ilyushin-476.

     
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    Tanker variant is based on IL-76, IL-476 is for cargo..

    IAF protest IL-76 as a Whole system have spare problems..
     
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    but its the finance ministry which have the final say right??
     
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    kunal paaji i think these sarkari babus deserves this language
     
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    Money is the problem, given the financial woes the country has landed itself in!
     
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    i dont think so ray money is the problem. big heart to use the money is the problem
     
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    which one participated in contest and did only european and russian participated in the contest or americans to
     
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    True, but Indian Ilyushin-76 could as well use the new engines of Ilyushin-476 as part of an upgrade package. Alternatively, Ilyushin-476 could be modified as a MARS.

    For spares, I think we should consider making them here.
     
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    I think the last of the Ilyushin-76 family of planes we bought, actually Ilyushin-78, was form Uzbekistan, as AWACS. I don't know which version participated in the contest.
     
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    IL-78 is same as IL-76 except the cargo bay is converted to keep large fuel tanks, IL-76 is used for AWACS..
     
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    I'm sorry, you are right. Ilyushin-78 are the tankers, not AWACS.
     
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    A330 MRTT at Leh for high altitude trials.
     
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