India Reacts Sharply to Pakistan Support for Hafiz Saeed Rally

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  1. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    I am not surprised that a terrorist spawning rogue state should give assistance to a Terrorist.

    What a failed State!
     
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    Pakistan to Run Special Trains For Terror Mastermind Hafiz Saeed


    Pakistan's patronage to Hafiz Saeed, the mastermind of 2008 Mumbai attack, has just been made official. The Pakistan government will run two special trains to transport people to Lahore for the two-day congregation of his banned terror organization Jamaat-ud-Dawah, or JuD.

    The congregation begins on December 4 at Lahore's Minar-i-Pakistan monument grounds.

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    Saeed is the alleged mastermind behind series of attacks in India, including the one in Mumbai, which claimed 166 lives. It was planned in Pakistan and executed by Pakistani terrorists including Ajmal Kasab, who was later hanged.

    In June, the United States, which had been leaning heavily on Pakistan to crack the Islamic terror network, added Lashkar-e-Taiba and its affiliates - including JuD - to its list of designated terror organisations. He already carries a bounty of $10 million. (Read: JuD denies charge)

    Pakistan claims it is the government's policy to rent out trains to political and religious organisations. Railways spokesman Rauf Tahir said, "Two special trains will be run for JuD congregation but not free of cost".

    Official sources said the JuD leadership had spoken to Railways Minister Saad Rafique for his permission to run special trains.

    The first train will start from today from Hyderabad, Sindh province, and reach Lahore tomorrow night. Another train will leave from Karachi and reach Lahore on December 4. At the end of the meet, the trains will transport the passengers back as well.

    Imran Khan's Pakistan Tahreek-i-Insaf has already postponed its call to block Lahore on December 4 at the "request" of the JuD leadership. "Yes we have changed Lahore's plan on the request of JuD. The JuD told us that thousands of people are coming to Lahore on December 4 and it cannot afford any hurdle in it," a senior leader of the party said.

    Regarding the terror charges, Pakistan has said it needs "hard evidence" to put Saeed in jail. "We can't put him in jail just to please everyone," Pakistan High Commissioner to India Abdul Basit had said in July.
    Pakistan to Run Special Trains For Terror Mastermind Hafiz Saeed
     
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    Wanted in U.S. and India, Hafiz Saeed leads mass rally in Pakistan

    Hafiz Saeed, a Pakistani Islamist with a $10 million U.S. bounty on his head, appeared openly at a rally in Islamabad on Friday, denouncing India as a terrorist state as thousands of his supporters chanted for "holy war" against the rival nuclear nation.

    India has accused Hafiz Saeed of masterminding the 2008 attack on its financial capital Mumbai where gunmen killed 166 people over three days. The United States has offered $10 million for information leading to his arrest and conviction.

    As dusk fell, more than 10,000 people gathered in Islamabad in a show of defiance certain to enrage India further following weeks of tensions over the disputed Kashmir border.

    "The United States and India are very angry with us. This means God is happy with us," Saeed told the crowd as supporters chanted "Jihad!" ("Holy war") and "War will continue until the liberation of Kashmir". He did not use the word "jihad" himself.

    "We are ready for every sacrifice for the liberation of Kashmir," the stocky and bearded former professor added at the rally marking Pakistan's Defence Day.

    Speaking about Sarabjit Singh, an Indian prisoner who died in a Pakistani jail this year and was given a state funeral back home, Saeed told the crowd: "He was a terrorist. How can the Indian government give state honours to a terrorist? This means the Indian government and army are terrorists."

    India has called on Pakistan to bring Saeed to justice, an issue that has stood in the way of rebuilding relations between the nuclear-armed neighbours since the Mumbai carnage.

    Saeed is the founder of Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT), a militant group banned in Pakistan but tolerated unofficially and believed to be close to the army. Saeed has long abandoned its leadership and is now the head of its charity wing.

    India is furious that Pakistan has not detained him since it handed over evidence against him to Islamabad, and allows Saeed to live freely in the city of Lahore in a villa with police stationed outside.

    Relations plunged to further lows last month after the killing of five Indian soldiers along the so-called Line of Control that separates the two sides in the Himalayan region of Kashmir.

    BELLIGERENT MOOD

    Seeking to defuse tensions, Pakistan's civilian leaders have kept a conciliatory tone, but on Friday, as thousands gathered in Islamabad, emotions spilled into the open.

    The mood was strikingly anti-Western and belligerent, with speakers openly declaring their sympathy for the Taliban fighting Western forces in neighbouring Afghanistan.

    "India should stop describing Kashmir as its indispensable part," Saeed said from a makeshift stage mounted on a truck. "Otherwise every part of India would be dispensable for us."

    As the crowd cheered, two men performed a patriotic song threatening to "turn the whole of India into Mumbai". Others chanted "Whoever is a friend of India is a traitor" and waved black and white striped flags.

    "They should know there are a lot of people here who are waiting for the conquest of India," Hamid Gul, a former chief of the ISI intelligence service, told the crowd.

    "It will be our privilege to take part in this war."

    Saeed founded the LeT, which India blames for the rampage in Mumbai, in the 1990s. He has denied involvement in any attacks.

    He abandoned the leadership after India accused the LeT of being behind an attack on the Indian parliament in December 2001. His charity, linked to the LeT, enjoys popular support for its humanitarian work.
    Wanted in U.S. and India, Hafiz Saeed leads mass rally in Pakistan | Reuters
     
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    A sharp reaction will be throwing a couple of cruise missiles at the rally venue.
     
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    Giving out statements wont do.
     
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    While the pakistani terrorists are killing Indians, the hindutva goons are busy beating up women for wearing jeans. Sad.
     
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    Hey why don't you join ISIS? I heard they were running out of toilet cleaners. Kek.
     
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    You can get angry, but it doesn't change the fact that Hindutva goons are cowards who only pick on women. Ask them to pick on terrorists, we'll see if they have the guts.
     
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    Which Hindutva goon beat up women after 2009? In fact, that Ram Sena Mangalore incident is the last I heard of.

    And hey - no need to refer to Paki terrorists in the third person. We know that you are one of them. You can be yourself here.
     
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    I have been defeated by your witty comment.
     
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    You mean to say Hindus need to confront brain dead zombies queuing up to enter hell ??

    These kind of creatures are dispatched to hell in large numbers and still the Yagna is going on in Kashmir.
     
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    In Kashmir, creatures like @genius are reduced to having the lifespan of less than a housefly. Within 3 weeks of their entry, the Army ensures that the likes of @genius get their 72 houris.

    Great fun watching such people dying like flies in places like Kashmir.
     
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    terrorist nation, supporting their terrorist leader (without uniform).
     
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    Is that comparison compatible?
     
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    I suggest when Mr. Modi retires we elect a cruise missile into office. Then whenever we have a Pakistan related foreign policy issue, we can be like "hold on, we're sending over our Prime Minister, the honorable Mr. Missile last name Cruise."
     
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    It reflects our mindset, our priorities. Their fanatics kill our soldiers and get away with it, whereas our fanatics don't have the guts to do the same and instead focus on non-issues/hurt innocent Indians.
     
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    Agreed. We don't want another Govt that just doles out statements.
     
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    i mean how difficult for RAW to hire a saraap sutter for 50,000 pkr in pakistan???


    and how difficult for amerika to the same ??/



    daal me kuch kala ha
     
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    Just liquidating him may be easy especially in a country that is run by mafias whose bread and butter is murder and loot.

    But perhaps for India's strategic ends he is better alive than dead. One Hafeez with his venomous rants will ensure that Pakistan remains isolated in the world and its nuclear arsenal under perpetual close watch.

    Every time he opens his mouth India should mount major diplomatic offensive across the world telling the other nations how evident the ISI link to a terrorist with a bounty on his head is and he will be the living example of how a state needs no outside interference to become an epic fail. After Bin Laden the world will disbelieve nothing.

    Let him continue his virulent rants and we will see what face Islamabad will keep showing to the world.

    Who knows he will be one who hands India the rest of Kashmir on a platter!!
     
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    Pakistan's diplomacy of late has failed.

    Their trump card of withholding supplies to NATO troops in Afghanistan is almost vanished. Their all weather friend and spy in the U.S. State Department, Robin Rafael has been removed from her post and disgraced. The Pakistani Army COAS's recent visit to US did not yield any results. To top it all, President Obama announced he is visiting India and not Pakistan next month. It has made Pakistan very unhappy.

    They are doing everything to upscale tension with India. First, the firing across the LOC but of no avail. Second, meet the Kashmiri separatists which made India withdraw the offer to start secretary level talks to resolve some issues. Third, effort made to sabotage the SAARC meet, and then last minute relent at the behest of ten other leaders. Fourth, China reluctant to support military adventurism across LOC. Fifth, sending highly trained terrorists to disrupt highly successful elections in Kashmir. Etc. etc.

    In a matter of months tension and disruption will reach a proportion where there is no turning back.

    Pakistan has for decades fed its population the myth of one Musalman is equal to thirty Hindus. That myth took a beating in 1971 Bangladesh and 1999 Kargil. Still if you mislead your own population and then try to turn back, it becomes politically difficult. Pakistan is in that difficult state, hence it has no other choice but start a shooting match.

    On top of this India is also helping Pakistan, about all round criticism of military preparedness and supply shortages. These misleading reports both by respected analysts trying to out write each other and 'Fanboys' delving in areas which they hardly know makes Pakistan believe that India is unprepared. They think this is the best time to strike. Ayub Khan in 1965 thought the same and unleashed his terrorists to start a 1965 war. He regretted it later.

    I am sure Nawaz Sharrif is going to regret it also. For the time being he is about to unleash Saeed Haffiz LET on India. War will get started on small stupid attack on India by LET. Consequences will be a loss of face for Pakistani Army. A defeated army will loose influence on the country's politics and loose much of military hardware they have collected over so many years.

    What a pity!!!
     
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