India, Pak have upset N-balance: Hillary

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  1. LETHALFORCE

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    http://news.oneindia.in/2010/04/11/india-pak-have-upset-n-balancehillary.html

    India, Pak have upset N-balance: Hillary


    Washington, Apr 11: US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has said that India and Pakistan have pursued nuclear weapons "in a way that has upset the balance of nuclear deterrent."


    Speaking at the University of Louisville, Clinton said, "There are three pillars to the Non-Proliferation Treaty. One is disarmament, one is nonproliferation, and one is the peaceful use of nuclear weapons, the peaceful use of nuclear energy for civil nuclear purposes."


    "So the United States will continue to demonstrate its willingness, in concert with Russia, because we have so many more weapons than any of the other countries -- you know, by a very, very big margin," she said.

    Clinton further said, "Other countries that have pursued nuclear weapons - like India and Pakistan, for example -- have done so in a way that has upset the balance of nuclear deterrence."

    "That was why the United States was working with both countries very hard to try to make sure that their nuclear stockpiles are well tended to, and that they participate with us in trying to limit the number of nuclear weapons," she added.
     
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    Agantrope Senior Member Senior Member

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    uh... Three pillar only the third world countries alone. When do they let know that nuclear weapons are the things that avoid the war between India and Pakistan.
     
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    The interesting thing in all this is USA is the only country to have used atomic weapons against another country, and now other countries will be told what is right and wrong.
     
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    Agantrope Senior Member Senior Member

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    Hegemony at its height. They can have possess 1000+ Warhead in ready state, but others cant possess. The world has limited conflict only because of nukes MAD
     
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    This is just the Obama administrations policy to blame others for failed foreign policy, this statement has more to do with Iran than India or Pak.
     
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    This is a load of BULLSHIT.
    I am a proud American, and I strongly condemn this crap the our government is giving towards my mother country (and others with nuclear weapons). The US believes nukes are dangerous... yet possesses the second largest arsenal for it. Before the US has any right to talk, they should get RID of ALL nuclear weapons. Then Iran, India will listen about it's arguments.

    It's pathetic how they say India and Pakistan are the reason for the imbalance. How many countries did the US threaten? How many other countries have ever USED nukes before?
     
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    Actually, ONLY INDIA upset the N-balance by going nuclear overtly. Otherwise, the nuclear balance would have been perfectly oriented according to the american wishes. Pakistan would already have the nuclear capabilities through their Chinese friends under the watchful eyes of their patron US while the silly India remains a 'good boy' that it is expected to be. Then, the N-balance would have been perfect.
     
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    I would not agree with Pakistan's proliferation record everything would not have been allright; the Iranian program has progressed this far with much help from AQ Khan and US is not revealing how much or even to question AQ Khan on this topic, this is a failure where much of the blame originates from USA and their equal equal relationship policy that USA wants for the subcontinent.
     
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    Take everything with a pinch of salt.we dont have to go hyper over everything that comes out of the white house. Look a the statement "peaceful use of nuclear weapons"... what the hell is that supposed to mean? if it means deterrence then fine..but still the sentence is quite a bushism like.
     
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    India doesn't need to give one * what the US govt says nor thinks. We should conduct more nuclear tests, and improve our nuclear defenses. ISRO should create more SPY satellites.
    What is the US going to do? Impose fresh sanctions on India?--In that case, we will develop our own technology.

    Let our cryogenic engines be a good example for what India can do.....

    The only thing stopping us is CONGRESS party. Bjb which is much more nationalistic, radical would be the key to a developing of India.

    Congress never would've conducted Nuclear tests.
     
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    This is a little too much to fast keeping the status quo is ok without testing at this point.
     
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    This is nothing but just another tactic of us policy to curb the powers of current nuclear capable countries...we all know that us and russia has just decided to shrink their nuclear warheads,which was just a false example to show that they have set an example for the other countries.

    Its not ven hidden now that US has developed the global strike missile which it was working on now for decades,which can strike any country within an hour.They just got what they wanted and already have an edge over other countries so its not a big deal that they would show that they are working on setting a balance of nuclear weapons.
     
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    Reducing the numbers in reality is a trick one missile with 10 MIRV'S is counted as one missile so if you have a 1000 missiles with 10 MIRV'S you still have 10,000 warheads.
     
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    Who conducted the first nuke test? Rather which party was in power? Also which party was in power when the nuke program itself was initiated a good 50 years ago?
    When it comes to national security, we have to rise above petty politicing. BJP is not the only one with nationalistic credentials and custodian of Indian security. I will stop at that as this thread is not on this topic.
     
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    I think in this case they will certainly reduce the no of nuclear warheads. ( as the signed deal with Russia says).

    Here I was talking about hypersonic X-51 missile developed by USA which already has given an edeg to US ovr any other country with our without nuclear capabilities..this cruise missile carries conventional warheads and travels at a speed 600 miles in ten minutes (mach 5).

    AS one of the reports quote "Traveling as fast as 13,000 mph, the warheads are filled with scored tungsten rods with twice the strength of steel. Just above the target, the warheads detonate, showering the area with thousands of rods-each one up to 12 times as destructive as a .50-caliber bullet. Anything within 3000 sq. ft. of this whirling, metallic storm is obliterated".
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    Sir, this must be conceptual.
     
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    Last 60 years usa/uk/china made pak india specific problem till 1998.now after a1998 similing buddha-2, india made pakistan a problem for whole world. now let them deal with it coz we already dealt with it for 60 yrs.let them too face the music of terrorism and nuclear bomb .=xD
     
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