India offers to train Bangladeshi submariners to operate Chinese Subs

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India offers to train Bangladeshi submariners to operate Chinese Subs


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New Delhi, Jan. 11: India has offered to train Bangladesh navy crews in operating submarines after Dhaka recently acquired the first of two boats from Beijing.

India has also agreed to host Vietnamese air force pilots to train in advanced combat techniques on Sukhoi fighter jets. Both the Indian and Vietnamese air forces fly variants of the Sukhoi 30 combat jets.

But it is New Delhi's offer to host Bangladesh submarine crews at INS Satavahana, the Indian Navy submarine academy at Visakhapatnam that is a delicate matter.

Bangladesh's recent acquisition of a Chinese Ming-class Type 035B submarine was initially a surprise for countries in the Bay of Bengal region. Despite China being a reasonably consistent supplier of equipment to the Bangladesh military, Dhaka's acquisition of the first of two-Ming-class submarines was surprising for most countries around the Bay of Bengal region. This is the first time the Bangladesh Navy has acquired undersea combat capability.

The Ming-class submarines supplied to China were built in the 1990s and were refurbished before being given to Bangladesh under a three-year-old contract. China is also understood to have trained a small Bangladeshi crew, as part of the contract, at its submarine base in Hainan Island at the rim of the South China Sea.

The Chinese People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) has over the years expanded its submarine fleet to more than 60, many of them the Type 093B nuclear-boats. This expansion has been accompanied by an increasing deployment of its warship flotillas, including submarines, in the Indian Ocean region in waters around India. The official reason cited by China is its prolonged deployment for intensive counter-piracy patrols in the Gulf of Aden and off the Horn of Africa.

But the Indian and US navies find little operational logic in the Chinese deployment of submarines - some of which have been nuclear-powered - for the stated task. Two submarines of the PLAN were known to have docked in a Pakistani port last year.

The Indian Navy has now proposed to host Bangladeshi crews who will operate the Chinese-built submarines at three of its schools in INS Satavahana: the Submarine Training School (SMS), the Escape Training School (ETS) and the School of Advanced Undersea Warfare (SAUW).

This is also where the Indian Navy has in the past hosted Vietnamese naval crew. Both the Indian and Vietnamese navies operate Russian-origin Kilo-class submarines.

An agreement to train Vietnamese fighter pilots in India was reached last month during talks led by the south east Asian nation's defence minister who was in New Delhi at the head of a 30-member delegation.

The two sides initially were planning for a team of Indian Air Force instructors to be deployed in Vietnam. But they then changed the plan and agreed that the Vietnamese pilots should be hosted at IAF bases.

India is also understood to be in talks with Vietnam to supply Akash medium-range surface-to-air missile (SAMs) systems. The SAMs - developed by the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) and now being inducted into the Indian Army and the Indian Air Force - have a range of 25km.

The DRDO claims they can intercept targets - such as incoming missiles - at a height of 20km after being activated.



https://www.telegraphindia.com/1170112/jsp/nation/story_129885.jsp
 

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. nobody can predict Indian policies .........:biggrin2:
 

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I like it we get to train them and collect sof intel on the subs as well
 

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do you think there is no indian agent on bangladesh nevy crew who can share chinese subs information:hmm::hmm: share any techology with nepal/bangla/bhutan means shiare with indian spies
 

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I like it we get to train them and collect sof intel on the subs as well
do you think there is no indian agent on bangladesh nevy crew who can share chinese subs information:hmm::hmm: share any techology with nepal/bangla/bhutan means shiare with indian spies

Bangladeshi submarines are based on very old technology ...................Chinese would not mind if we get the technical information about those submarines .
 

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we should also start equipping chinese neighbors (who are not friendly with china) with latest tech and war tactics.. i just know about brahmos deal with vietnam.. are there more such deals?
 

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we should also start equipping chinese neighbors (who are not friendly with china) with latest tech and war tactics.. i just know about brahmos deal with vietnam.. are there more such deals?


Indian companies are making warships for Vietnam ...................and may be Indonesia & Brunei .
 

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Indian companies are making warships for Vietnam ...................and may be Indonesia & Brunei .
Patrolling boat which they don't even dare to confront Chinese maritime police.
People here don't why Chinese government doesn't really worry about Indian weapon supplying (unless you count those Chinese media in):
1. Indian indigenous weapon is quite outdated comparing to US or Russia counterpart. Chinese neighbours have no problem to get these 2 counties weapon. So, Indian weapon is the least concern to Chinese;
2. The gap on military/political fields between China and her neighbors is large that one or two new weapons won't bridge. They are concerned about the possibility of accidentally sinking a Chinese police boat rather than they hit by Chinese.
3. China already get into a new stage: she can teach these small neighbors a lesson without starting a war.
 

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People here don't why Chinese government doesn't really worry about Indian weapon supplying (unless you count those Chinese media in):
china dont have any freedom .
Chinese Media is Controlled by CCP so ..............that is a Mouth peace of CCP .

we dont care about Paki media because those are private media Houses , similarly we dont take Indian private media houses seriously .

but if DD news (of India ) or Global Times(of China ) is saying something then we take is seriously .

The gap on military/political fields between China and her neighbors is large that one or two new weapons won't bridge. They are concerned about the possibility of accidentally sinking a Chinese police boat rather than they hit by Chinese.

Indian indigenous weapon is quite outdated comparing to US or Russia counterpart. Chinese neighbours have no problem to get these 2 counties weapon. So, Indian weapon is the least concern to Chinese;
You are overestimating China's capabilities ............Vietnam sold the oil-field in scs (territory claimed by China ) to Indian Govt. company ONGC .

and now ONGC is exploring oil in that area .


so now ..............security of that region is Indian responsibility ..........After Akash we will Provide Barak-8 & bramhos , prahar too ..............soon Indian submarines with nukes will be there .


China has nothing Like Barak-8
Extended range Barak-8 is also under development .

China already get into a new stage: she can teach these small neighbors a lesson without starting a war.
These small neighbors are not alone . :)


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what do You mean by teach a lesson ?? You can not enter even in Taiwan :rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
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do you think there is no indian agent on bangladesh nevy crew who can share chinese subs information:hmm::hmm: share any techology with nepal/bangla/bhutan means shiare with indian spies
chinese knows it as well , they only sell them old tech sub...
 

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This is embarrassing.


First try selling an indigenous rifle to these minions (which is 100 years away) then offer these kind of training.


Training for Kilo class and SU 30, Mi 35 is different thing and we are already training Vietnamese Tank crews, combat engineers and Submariners.
 

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India needs to push hard to get this contract. even if doing it practically for free. Making India indespensible to other nations especially your neighbors in national security matters builds trust and gives you a real idea of what's going on on the ground.


another point should be pointed out that Pakistan Is not reliable. .even dangerous to chinese interests so they need to build up a new ally in south Asia to keep India threatened.
 

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china dont have any freedom .
Chinese Media is Controlled by CCP so ..............that is a Mouth peace of CCP .

we dont care about Paki media because those are private media Houses , similarly we dont take Indian private media houses seriously .

but if DD news (of India ) or Global Times(of China ) is saying something then we take is seriously .



You are overestimating China's capabilities ............Vietnam sold the oil-field in scs (territory claimed by China ) to Indian Govt. company ONGC .

and now ONGC is exploring oil in that area .


so now ..............security of that region is Indian responsibility ..........After Akash we will Provide Barak-8 & bramhos , prahar too ..............soon Indian submarines with nukes will be there .


China has nothing Like Barak-8
Extended range Barak-8 is also under development .



These small neighbors are not alone . :)


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what do You mean by teach a lesson ?? You can not enter even in Taiwan :rofl::rofl::rofl:

THE TAIWAN is Country ..

chinees army have not rights to enter in Taiwan's Territory ......
N............E.........V..........E...........R...........
 

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Lemme go find some Bangladeshi jamati and share the news! :D
 

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didn't India let Singapore or was it mlaysia base their f16s in India and were able to gain a lot of intelligence and understanding on them?
 

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didn't India let Singapore or was it mlaysia base their f16s in India and were able to gain a lot of intelligence and understanding on them?
Singapore had deployed six F-16 fighters for a joint military exercise with the Indian Air Force’s four Su-30MKIs held from at Kalaikunda Air Force Station, India.

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That's funny! BD buys Chinese subs without getting their crews trained? Either they should have been trained in China or the Chinese should have trained them in BD to operate their subs! But Indians training BD personnel on operating Chinese subs? Something doesn't seem right here.
 

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