India Launched Surgical Strikes Across LoC: DGMO 29/09/2016

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I was wrong in my previous post about the incident tweet !!

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One soldier killed in Pakistan sniper fire at forward post in Poonch
Updated: Oct 16, 2016 21:11 IST
A soldier of the Indian Army was reportedly shot dead in sniper fire from Pakistan on Sunday evening on a forward Indian post along the Line of Control (LoC) in Balakote sector of Poonch district.

The jawan was identified as sepoy Sudesh Kumar of the 6 Rajputana Rifles.

“Around 6 pm on Sunday, a single sniper shot fired by Pakistani sniper hit Indian soldier Sudesh Kumar of 6 Rajputana Rifles at a forward post in Balakote sector. He died instantly,” said an intelligence official, who did not want to be named.

The Indian Army neither retaliated nor confirmed the sniping incident, he added.


Army officials, on the other hand, claimed the jawan died in a ceasefire violation by Pakistan in Naushera sector of Rajouri district. The identity of the soldier was withheld.


A defence spokesperson said he was yet to get official confirmation of the alleged violation.

Poonch is 250 km and while Rajouri is 150 km northwest of Jammu.

The Pakistan Army earlier violated ceasefire in Naushera on Sunday morning from 4.30 to 8 am, and the Indian Army maintained that there was no loss of life or injury on this side of the border. Mortars were also fired on the Indian posts along the LoC in Naushera sector of Rajouri district.

“Around 4.30 am Pak troops opened fire on our posts in Naushera sector prompting us to retaliate in equal measure,” said a senior officer of the Northern Command.

The officer didn’t specify the nature of Pakistani fire, but a local journalist quoted villagers as saying that they woke up to machine gun fire and mortar explosions.

Following the September 18 Uri army base attack that killed 19 soldiers and India’s subsequent surgical strikes on terror launch pads in PoK, there has been a flare-up on the LoC with both nuclear-armed countries intermittently trading heavy fire.

Escalating tensions have even forced both sides to move some of their battalions and artillery close to the border.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...t-in-poonch/story-B61Na3HLTSKwk8jNvR9ZBO.html
If we can fire 25000 shells on paki posts, i wonder what would our response be for this incident.
Only thing to be sad about is we won't get to know about paki casualties from Indian Snipers.
 

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Lock, Stock And No Smoking Barrel



by Namrata Biji Ahuja and Ajit K. Dubey


There is no perceivable evidence of India’s covert operation across the LoC, precisely because it was what our special forces intended. THE WEEK brings you exclusive details about what happened before, during and after those crucial four hours when our men were out avenging Uri

Exclusive details about what happened before, during and after those crucial four hours when our men were out avenging Uri


There was no surgical strike. What the Indian Army did to seven Pakistan Army-guarded terrorist launch pads across the Line of Control was a covert commando operation. An eminently successful one at that.


A surgical strike, says the Macmillan Dictionary, is “a military attack, especially by air, that is designed to destroy something specific and to avoid wider damage”. The common military understanding is that it is an attack carried out without warning and intended to deal only with a specific target. Such operations are quick and covert, but the result is left open for the world to see. The classic example is Israel’s air raid on Iraq’s Osirak nuclear reactor in 1981.

What the Indian Army did on the night of September 28-29 was a slow and laborious operation, which had troops creeping, climbing and crawling across the LoC and across two kilometres of rugged terrain, avoiding stepping on land-mines or alerting village dogs, reaching largely undefended targets, catching the enemy off-guard, killing him and destroying his camp in the dark. No photos sent, no bodies carried back, no trophies. But they did it.





As much was conceded, though inadvertently, by Air Marshal (retd) Shahzad Chaudhry of the Pakistan Air Force: “What India has done is an LoC violation. Not a surgical strike.”

The Indian Army had done it earlier, too (see graphics). Pointed out Lt Gen Hardev Singh Lidder, former chief of Integrated Defence Staff and veteran special forces officer: “We have had strikes earlier, but those were mostly local. This is the first time that strikes were carried out as a national policy.”


The idea of a covert counterstrike was mooted on September 18 night, when Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar and Army chief Dalbir Singh Suhag were flying back to Delhi from the brigade headquarters in Uri, where 18 soldiers had been killed in a terror strike early that morning. Parrikar wanted the general to give him a few actionable options that they could present to Prime Minister Narendra Modi in the cabinet committee on security the following day.

Meanwhile, Modi had been in touch with National Security Adviser Ajit Doval. He wanted to know whether the attack had a confirmed Pakistani link. Yes, said Doval. A GPS set found on the attackers had shown that they had come from across the LoC.


That night, on Gen Suhag’s orders, the directorate-general of military operations headed by Lt Gen Ranbir Singh burnt the midnight oil. Doval ordered all intelligence inputs, from the National Technical Research Organisation (NTRO), the Research and Analysis Wing, and the Intelligence Bureau, to be made available to the DGMO. But Ranbir Singh had a problem. The Army’s Northern Command had informed him of the existence of 30-odd launch pads across the LoC within striking distance, but they had all been emptied out immediately after the Uri attack. Yes, the Pakistanis were expecting payback.


A launchpad, as an officer explained to THE WEEK, is like a bus shelter. The training camps, mostly run by ex-army officers on the payroll of outfits like Lashkar-e-Taiba, are deep inside Pakistan-occupied Kashmir—often 30 to 40km inside. From there, the trained boys are taken to the launchpads, where they spend days until the coast is clear for infiltration. Guides, mostly villagers and double agents, take them across the LoC.


At the cabinet committee on security the following day, the Army’s proposals (“not one, but several,” said a senior officer) were discussed. An in-principle clearance for an operation was given. (The final clearance would come a week later.) Meanwhile, Doval advised the committee to discuss other options like revisiting the Indus Water Treaty, stopping trade and suspending diplomatic relations. “All that talk created the clutter that we wanted,” said the officer. “It also lured the enemy into thinking that we wouldn’t hit back.”


The trick worked. “In a few days, we had inputs that the launchpads were again getting peopled,” said the officer. The enemy had an urgency. It would start snowing in a few days and the infiltration routes would get blocked.


Once the in-principle go-ahead was issued, Modi called on President Pranab Mukherjee and briefed him. On September 20, Doval told the PM that a defensive approach would not suffice this time. “We need to be offensive-defensive,” he is said to have told Modi.


Once Modi charged him with overseeing what could be done, the first thing Doval did was to “empower” the chiefs of the forces, the various intelligence gathering units and the surveillance agencies to forget procedural clearances. “If there are any glitches, sort them out yourselves. Share as much as you can among yourselves,” Doval is said to have told them.


The chiefs did not have a problem. They knew that the Army had resorted to cross-LoC actions several times in the past, but it was the first time they were being asked by the political leadership to do it. All such actions in the past had been cleared at the brigade, division, corps or command level.


The political clearance eased things. For the first time, the agencies opened their operational rooms to other agencies. The uphill task was to decipher the satellite imagery and provide real-time technical intelligence to the Army’s Northern Command headquarters in Udhampur, which would have to supervise the strike. “For any intelligence agency, assets and techniques are paramount,” explained an NTRO officer. “They cannot be accessed by even the chiefs of other agencies. For the first time, we allowed the Army inside our base and they allowed our men. At both the locations, our men were sitting together. As a result, what would have taken five to eight hours for one agency to decipher, was done in five minutes.”


Meanwhile, the Northern Command, headed by Lt Gen D.S. Hooda, was making its own assessments. He had the freedom to choose the targets. The morale of the military was paramount. So was the timing. Hooda asked the formation commanders under him to identify 150 commandos for a few tasks. The commanders chose three broad target areas which fell under the 19 Division (Uri), 28 Division (Kupwara) and 25 Division (Rajouri). By then, the military’s own intelligence, too, had provided targets across Uri, Poonch and Bhimber sectors.


But who would do the strikes? It had to be a commando operation undertaken by the special forces. The two units chosen for the task were the Udhampur-based 9 Para (SF) and 4 Para (SF), commanded by Col Kapil Yadav and Col J.S. Sandhu, respectively.


An SF battalion comprises four assault teams which have close to 100 men. The teams are further divided into three assault troops comprising 24 men, supported by troopers who operate heavy weapons such as RPO7 flamethrowers and PK machine guns. But Hooda correctly assessed that the operation could not just be ‘outsourced’ to the special forces. The units that had taken the terrorist hit at Uri would like to have their pound of flesh. So a few Ghatak commandos of the 10 Dogra, 6 Bihar and 19 Punjab, which are otherwise regular infantry, were also selected. They were to avenge the death of their buddies.


Hooda now ordered a few diversionary activities. Formations were told to move troops along the 250km arc from Uri to Rajouri sectors on the LoC to confuse the enemy. Artillery batteries were asked to open up all along to keep the Pakistani posts engaged. The IAF’s Western Command also chipped in. It restarted its Exercise Talon, which had been put on hold because of a mishap involving a Jaguar deep-strike aircraft in Ambala. As the airspace on the Indian side got saturated with Indian fighter flying, the Pakistan Air Force suspended all civilian air activity over PoK and Gilgit-Baltistan, and kept its air defences on high alert.


When Modi was addressing BJP workers in Kozhikode in Kerala on September 24, Lt Gen Ranbir Singh was conferring with Lt Gen Satish Dua, commander of the Srinagar-based 15 Corps, and Lt Gen N.N. Nimbhorkar, commander of the Nagrota-based 16 Corps. And, in an undisclosed location, the SF troopers were practicing strikes.


As soon as Modi returned from Kozhikode, there were further diversionary tactics at the political and diplomatic level. On September 26, he summoned experts and explored the possibility of choking the Indus waters. As think-tanks, the media and the government’s spin-doctors discussed the pluses and minuses of the move, others speculated on how China would hit back by choking the Brahmaputra. The spin the following day was about severing trade ties and diplomatic links.

The final go-ahead was given on September 27. A couple of hours before the H-Hour, the Kupwara division intensified small arms and mortar fire. By then, the assault troops of 24 each from 9 Para (SF) and 4 Para (SF) had been divided into four groups of 12 each. They had been taken by helicopters to four locations on the Indian side of the LoC in Kel, Tutmari Gali, Nangi Tekri and Baalnoi post in Mendhar sector. “No helicopter flew to the other side,” said an officer.


A couple of teams slipped out between the Beloni and Nangi Tekri battalion areas in Poonch sector and across the Tutmari Gali in the Nowgam sector. The Ghatak teams were pushed in separately, but they were told that the assault would be made by the para commandos. They could join the fight and kill if the enemy opened fire on the commandos on their way back.

Around 11pm on September 28, Parrikar and Doval reached the Army’s operations room. Gen Suhag was waiting for them. The three had skipped a dinner hosted by the Coast Guard chief for his commanders’ conference.


The Ghatak teams had crossed the LoC the previous evening and had been lying in wait. The idea was that even if they were caught, the Pak troopers would have thought of them as teams who had come to avenge the killing of their buddies. Any exchange of fire with them would have also been a diversionary tactic from the main operation.


About an hour after the midnight of September 28, the commandos crossed the barbed-wire fences, which in most places are about a kilometer short of the LoC. There was a nip in the night air, a sign of the approaching winter. In a few days, there would be snowfall, and the passes and tracks would become difficult to traverse. That also meant another certainty, confirmed by the NTRO’s decoded maps: the launchpads had been peopled again with infiltrators. “The enemy had evacuated all launchpads immediately after the Uri attack,” said an officer. “But the boys were brought back because they had to be sent across before the passes got blocked.”

How did the commandos get to know of the tracks? “Didn’t you know of the guides on the LoC?” asked an officer. “There are local villagers who help the infiltrators. They also help us. Some are from our side; some from the other.”


By around 1am, most teams had traversed the stretch between the fence and the LoC, and crossed into enemy territory. They hardly carried any electronic equipment, for fear of being caught by the enemy’s electronic sensors. They knew the coordinates of the terrorist launchpads from the satellite images provided by the NTRO. A few maps had also shown unusual activity at some of the launch pads on previous days.


The commandos knew one thing for sure. The boys at the launch pads would not be armed. The Pak army never allowed terrorists to roam around the nearby villages with arms. They were given arms only when their mission began.


The SF troops, wearing jungle camouflage, walked slowly with the aid of night vision devices and night sights on their Tavor rifles, and reached their designated targets. There was little resistance from the Pakistan troops. Most pickets on the LoC were still being engaged by the Indian small arms fire. The few soldiers who were guarding the launchpads were gunned down in no time.

As the SF troops reached the villages housing the launchpads, they barged into the buildings and used the Russian RPO7 flamethrowers, which created a temperature of 3,000 degrees Celsius and caused massive explosions. Once they reached their targets, it was more of an arson exercise than actually engaging the enemy in combat.


The job was done in less than 40 minutes in most target areas. The commandos returned before daybreak with Ghatak troopers guarding their rear. “Once the troops returned to their launch bases, helicopters were sent to fetch the officers, who were lifted straight to Udhampur and Nagrota for debriefing,” said the officer. Overall, the operations lasted almost four hours. Four to five launchpads (whether one was actually a launchpad or an abandoned village hut was not certain), located up to 2km deep in enemy territory, had been destroyed.


How many did they kill? The Army is not giving specific numbers, because “they just set fire to the launchpads and made a quick exit. No one knows how many were there inside.” The estimate is 40 to 45 killed, based on estimates of the number of persons each launchpad can hold. But five launch pads and two Pakistan army posts—which were co-located with the launchpads—were destroyed and all occupants killed. The most realistic estimate is that about 30 were killed in three launchpads.


A statement released by Pakistan’s Inter-Services Public Relations said, “At least two army men were killed as Indian and Pakistani troops exchanged fire over the LoC in Azad Jammu and Kashmir.” A few hours later, ISPR released the photographs of the dead soldiers, havildars Jumma Khan and Naik Imtiaz. The casualty on the Indian side? Two para commandos injured in landmine blasts on their way back.


By 4.30am on September 30, the operation was declared successful and Modi was briefed. The PM was not shown a “live telecast” of the operation, as reported by some.

Early morning, Lt Gen Ranbir Singh called up his Pakistani counterpart, Maj Gen Sahir Shamshad Mirza, who had taken over recently as director-general of military operations, and told him that India had struck at the launchpads in the territory under his control.


Uri was avenged.

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^^"You see it was not a surgical strike..but it kinda was..because they are the same..but we cannot tell our heads from our Musharrafs..so.."

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^^"You see it was not a surgical strike..but it kinda was..because they are the same..but we cannot tell our heads from our Musharrafs..so.."

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"A rose by any other name would smell as sweet"

Call it by any name but we have taken a new chance and a change of direction!
 

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"A rose by any other name would smell as sweet"

Call it by any name but we have taken a new chance and a change of direction!
But they are not trying to say "what's in the name".

Now what's the problem whether these are called "surgical strikes" or "covert commando operations", some would ask.

The problem is the motivation behind these moves. By their feverish attempts to call the surgical strikes "covert commando operations", presstitutes such as "The Week" are attempting an equal-equal that was stared by Anand Sharma and then picked up the likes of Chindu and others.

These MC/BCs are simultaneously trying to downplay the impact and significance of the current operations and at the same time are attempting to grant a backdoor entry to the UPA and Congress by saying that previous governments did this too, just that they chose not to publicise them. Cue, snarky comments on "intellectual chasm" and "political naivety" of the present dispension vis-a-vis the "wisened and mature" leadership of the yore- not to mention "intellectual".

The presstitutes were clueless about these ops and still are clueless about the details- their "contacts" have fed them enough for them to fill up their toilet papers but the juicy details are missing and they have no access to them whatsoever. Moreover, the details that have been shared have induced deep heart and anal burn in many of these presstitutes. It displays the professionalism of the armed forces, establishes that integrated commands can work, blows away the Paki "red line" theory, much like the Red line buses of the yore would do to unfortunate folks (Those who grew up in the Delhi of 1990s would know) and presstitutes lose the leverage they hoped to have via "back channel" and track thoo talks.

To add to their frustration, despite attempts they have been unable to poke holes in the strikes themselves, so now they have resorted to downplaying Baki casualties and demanding proof. They hoped that sustained pressure would see the "inexperienced" govt. cave in and release sensitive info- actual tactics, the level of command integration, details of satellite imagery, actual special force action, intelligence gathering mechanisms etc.

GoI coolly sidestepped the bait and got on with BRICS and presstitutes have been left wiping multiple eggs on their faces.

Poor viruses get a bad reputation, their reputations would be redeemed in an instant if they managed to snare these vermin.
 

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^^"You see it was not a surgical strike..but it kinda was..because they are the same..but we cannot tell our heads from our Musharrafs..so.."

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Think of your school batchmates. Where did the brightest ones go after 12th? Did they go to humanities or journalism?
 

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If we can fire 25000 shells on paki posts, i wonder what would our response be for this incident.
Only thing to be sad about is we won't get to know about paki casualties from Indian Snipers.
Firing From Afghan Soil Kills 2 Pakistani Soldiers


PESHAWAR: At least two Pakistani soldiers were killed and one sustained an injury in firing from across the Afghan border targeting an outpost in the restive tribal region.
The incident occurred yesterday when firing hit soldiers in Angor Adda area of South Waziristan, one of seven tribal regions along the Afghan border.
Security sources said the firing from Birmal area in Paktika province of Afghanistan targeted a Pakistani outpost.
"Two security personnel were killed and another injured," sources said.
They were part of 56-Punjab Regiment stationed in the area to fight militants.
No group claimed responsibility for the attack.
Militants fled across the border to Afghanistan after operations by Pakistani security forces.
Sources said that Pakistan soldiers returned fire, hitting the area from where the firing had come though the losses on the other side were not known so far.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...2-pakistani-soldiers/articleshow/54893110.cms

Shoot and Scoot from Afghan border against paki soldiers..

De javu for pakis!
 

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Think of your school batchmates. Where did the brightest ones go after 12th? Did they go to humanities or journalism?
Can't really say, since I am not in touch with most.

I do know one lad who was a year below me in school, quite accomplished academically and is now a journalist.

But recently, journalism seems to have attracted the worst sort of people since they realise that it unlocks the keys to riches for many.
 

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GeoTv editor Hamid Mir speaking on Surgical Strikes by India and situation in Pakistan
Sugar coated talking but still in denial ...

Pakistanis want proof ? once given the proof still they will ask for more proof... One can take the horse to the riverside but not force it to brink...

India has learned from Pathankot experiences... Pakistan will never accept its state policy of terrorism with non state actors...

The non state actors are roaming freely in Pakistan and he is talking of Aman Ki Asha...

fooling the whole world... not anymore...
 

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Pilot killed as PAF Mirage jet crashes in Karachi
The plane took off from Masroor Base, before it crashed in Musharraf Colony. PHOTO: EXPRESS

KARACHI: A pilot of the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) was killed on Tuesday as the Mirage plane crashed near Karachi’s Musharraf Colony.

According to Squadron leader Baqir Ali, PAF Mirage plane bearing tale number 921 took off from Masroor Base, before it crashed near Musharraf Colony. The pilot died on the spot, police officials stated.

“A Mirage plane crashed near Musharraf colony,” Senior Superintendent Police city confirmed. Rescue teams have reached the site.

Last month, a PAF pilot was killed as his fighter jet crashed in Jamrud, Khyber Agency.

“The pilot of the aircraft Flt Lt Omer Shazad sustained fatal injuries,” the military’s media wing ISPR said. The PAF aircraft was on a routine operational training mission.

“No loss of civilian life and property has been reported on ground,” the statement added. A board of inquiry has been ordered by Air Headquarters to determine the cause of the accident.

Officials claim the aircraft crashed due to a technical fault. Speaking toThe Express Tribune, a senior official of the political administration said, “A team of Swat scouts and Levis officials have been sent to the site of the incident.”

This is a developing story and will be updated accordingly.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1201845/pilot-killed-paf-aircraft-crashes-karachi/

WHAT MANY PEOPLE ARE MISSING IS WHAT THIS SURGICAL STRIKES AND NEW GOVERNMENT POLICY HAS DONE IS RAISED THE COST for PAKISTAN'S on its PROXY WAR POLICY.

This is the third fighter crash for Pakistan ever since the uri attack earliear there were reports of JF17 crash fate of pilot unknown. Also Pakistan is attacked from Afghanistan killing 2 soldiers there and also from Iranian borders and these are apart from what Indian army is doing the heavy firing at LOC/border killing porki army.Kudos to MODI government and Indian Army.


MODI is also unleashing pshycological warfare by leaking INS Arihant commissioning so that CHINA is contained even is INDIA formally attacks Porkiland.

Bleeding them economically is the best idea, so that they don't have money to buy weapons and their people starve and revolt against them and even seeing so many fellow soldiers dead will de motivate their entire army GREAT I must say.
 

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Exactly they can't keep flying those jets it's freaking expensive for bankrupt jihadi economy. And when they do fly they fall like flies:pound:

Every Pakistanis should know the cost of hosting lashker and likes.
They should all pay. Either by lives or by money .
 

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Pilot killed as PAF Mirage jet crashes in Karachi
The plane took off from Masroor Base, before it crashed in Musharraf Colony. PHOTO: EXPRESS

KARACHI: A pilot of the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) was killed on Tuesday as the Mirage plane crashed near Karachi’s Musharraf Colony.

According to Squadron leader Baqir Ali, PAF Mirage plane bearing tale number 921 took off from Masroor Base, before it crashed near Musharraf Colony. The pilot died on the spot, police officials stated.

“A Mirage plane crashed near Musharraf colony,” Senior Superintendent Police city confirmed. Rescue teams have reached the site.

Last month, a PAF pilot was killed as his fighter jet crashed in Jamrud, Khyber Agency.

“The pilot of the aircraft Flt Lt Omer Shazad sustained fatal injuries,” the military’s media wing ISPR said. The PAF aircraft was on a routine operational training mission.

“No loss of civilian life and property has been reported on ground,” the statement added. A board of inquiry has been ordered by Air Headquarters to determine the cause of the accident.

Officials claim the aircraft crashed due to a technical fault. Speaking toThe Express Tribune, a senior official of the political administration said, “A team of Swat scouts and Levis officials have been sent to the site of the incident.”

This is a developing story and will be updated accordingly.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1201845/pilot-killed-paf-aircraft-crashes-karachi/

WHAT MANY PEOPLE ARE MISSING IS WHAT THIS SURGICAL STRIKES AND NEW GOVERNMENT POLICY HAS DONE IS RAISED THE COST for PAKISTAN'S on its PROXY WAR POLICY.

This is the third fighter crash for Pakistan ever since the uri attack earliear there were reports of JF17 crash fate of pilot unknown. Also Pakistan is attacked from Afghanistan killing 2 soldiers there and also from Iranian borders and these are apart from what Indian army is doing the heavy firing at LOC/border killing porki army.Kudos to MODI government and Indian Army.


MODI is also unleashing pshycological warfare by leaking INS Arihant commissioning so that CHINA is contained even is INDIA formally attacks Porkiland.

Bleeding them economically is the best idea, so that they don't have money to buy weapons and their people starve and revolt against them and even seeing so many fellow soldiers dead will de motivate their entire army GREAT I must say.
These ancient mirage are junk anyway. In fact now they can save some money from crashed planes maintainance+fuel+pilot's salary.
 

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Good that a Paki flying pig crashed but people should stop claiming it to be some sort of mythical Indian weapons behind these crashes.

We already have enough of these garbage fanboy stories of KALI caused avalanches in Gayari.
 

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And these porkis used to troll indians that IAF is having worst crash record. That's only because China and Pakistan doesn't fly their jets.
 

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paks legacy aircrafts r giving up slowly but surely.

the increased operational tempo brought about by the Indian strikes is responsible to a certain extent.

pak needs to replace these at the earliest , wonder what aircraft they will chose or more likely be thrusted down their throats.

j10 or j31 ?

will be interesting to see
and at what price
 

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