India in talks to buy Iron Dome, David's Sling

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  1. LETHALFORCE

    LETHALFORCE Moderator Moderator

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    India in talks to buy Iron Dome, David's Sling - Israel Business, Ynetnews

    Procurement of David's Sling or the Iron Dome would be a "pleasure". "Defense News" reports that India is in talks to buy Israel's ground-based rocket and missile interceptor systems Iron Dome and David's Sling.

    David's Sling, designed to intercept medium-range missiles (70-240 kilometers range), is being developed by Rafael Advanced Defense Systems Ltd. and Raytheon Company.

    Indian Ministry of Defense sources told "Defense News" negotiations between the Israeli and Indian governments on a deal for David's Sling had been going on for more than six months.

    The sources added that Israel was open to sales of David's Sling, but that it would not transfer the system's technology as part of a deal.

    An Indian Ministry of Defense official said that neither its aging Russian-built air defense systems nor the PAD system can serve as the country' sole line of defense against potential missile threats from Pakistan or China.

    He said that the procurement of David's Sling or the Iron Dome would be a "pleasure".
     
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    What do you mean it would be a pleasure unless off course you mean the deal will come with some good amount of $$$ for personal use. Yeah that indeed would be a pleasure!!
     
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    Typical useless, needless, unwarranted purchase. Thank you St Headless Midget Chicken Anthony.
     
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    as if we are facing daily rocket attacks like israel. they are very very expensive. more over buying def equipment is just like buying car, it comes with the future running cost and maintenance cost. these steps will choke the efforts to buy newer equipment in future as the money allotted will go for repairs and upkeep and situation just like bofor gun, mig-21 and submarine fleet will happen again in coming 2-3 decades.
    capability to run the platforms in the best possible manner is a vital thing but unfortunately most ignored one also in indian context
     
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    Sometime back I saw a report in this forum that India's Phase-I BMD shield development programme is over and that it will be in place by 2012. This was probably stated by Dr.Saraswat.
    Why then this new development of buying Iron Dome?
     
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    The AAD will get expensive if it is used to counter small range BMs rather than the Agni II class of missiles it is meant to stop. Iron Dome would be a good buy until our own MRSAMs are ready in a few years.

    Goodbye Nasr.
     
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    hope the deciesion not again be the victim of red tapism.
     
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    So far almost every single missle developed by Israel has been bought by India,why should this be an exception?? If iron dome and SPYDER can tie down Pakistan then we can use Akash etc.. against the Chinese.
     
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    After initial balk, India reconsidering buying Iron Dome

    India is reportedly reconsidering its decision earlier this year not to purchase Israel’s Iron Dome missile defense system.The all-weather Israeli system, which has proven effective in intercepting rocket fire from Gaza, was first deployed in 2011. India has expressed interest in the system over the past two years because its advanced capabilities would enable it to detect and intercept the “Nasr,” a Pakistani tactical nuclear missile deployed along the Indian-Pakistani border, an Indian Army official told Defense News.

    Earlier this year, India decided against purchasing the system. Air Marshal Norman Anil Kumar Browne, commander of India’s Air Force, said at the Aero India air show in Bangalore in February that the Iron Dome was not suitable for India’s air force.

    But a military source told Defense News that India was reconsidering that earlier assessment because Israel was willing to share the technology behind the advanced rocket system.

    Iron Dome, whose development by Haifa-based Rafael Advanced Defense Systems was partly funded by the US, is considered among the most advanced missile defense systems in the world.

    India is reportedly also interested in purchasing the longer-range David’s Sling system, which is manufactured jointly by Rafael and the Massachusetts-based defense contractor Raytheon.
     
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    Israel agrees to sell this type of material ?? I'am really surprised , it's a strategic equipment ... :shocked: If I was a decision maker in Israel , I'll sell to anyone this material :D
     
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    I have read somewhere that the initial equipment cost is higher as it includes the better AESA radar and also works as weapon locating radar and good cut for Israelis, while the single missile interceptor cost around 30k$(manufacturing cost). If I remember correctly India has bought a decade back guided artillery shells at 40K$, which in today's term will be more costly. Also todays 60-80km range rockets aren't going to be cheaper then 50K $. 1 Vs 1 Iron dome isn't that costly if we get the TOT for missiles and some systems (after initial procurement), nor should Israel have any issue, as its not an strategic equipment in India's context, but rather to be used in forward(or rather border) military post etc I'm dead sure that the french option that MoD is working(maitry SAM for 6B$) is going to cost 10 times and offcouse will be more sophisticated and will be used for important installations, but if we get the good TOT and can integrate the missiles with existing Aakash missiles(each one costing more then Half a million) launchers and other Indian produced radars/SAM, then it could become a cheap alternative for forward troops as they have to have radar capability anyway, then why not integrate a cheap SAM as well.

    Cost comparison -

    Each iron dome missiles cost(after tot, if manufactured in India) ~ 50k$ +
    Aakash missile - 500k$ ++
    Maitry SAM - No way it would be less then Aakash missile atleast Initially.
    AAD or other interceptors - 2000k$ +
     
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    note down my word govt will not clear anything before election

    and after election govt will not money every single money will spend ed on election and corruption
     
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    where did you get these figures
     
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    what does this mean:confused:
     
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    How come to tech to intercept home made rockets is strategic equipment, i can understand BMD is strategic equipment, but we have our own PAD(will test PDV soon) and AAD.

    BTW Israel has to recover the cost of developing the system.
     
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    may be but it wont stop us from all out counter attack on enemy.
     
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    I think Indian BMD (PDV+AAD) would be for major western population centers bordering Pak, where as ID+DS would be for smaller population centers near Pak border.

    On the other hand, Indian BMD (AD1+AD2) would be for North & Eastern population centers bordering China with ID+DS for smaller population centers there.

    In future, my take is that:
    Delhi, Mumbai, Ahmedabad/Gandhinagar, Chandigarh, Jaipur will get PDV+AAD

    Delhi, Lucknow, Kolkata, Guwahati will get AD1+AD2

    Bhuj, Palanpur, Jodhpur, Amritsar, Jammu, Srinagar, Leh, Dehradun, Pana, Siliguri, Itanagar, Tinsukia, will get ID+DS
     
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    Interesting Update..
     
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    Post edited ..
     
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    Because they present it like the best system in the World , a hightech material . And the Israeli are always suspicious , especially in military field , so I'am quite surprised . But why not , who know...
     

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